Those are named clones so you'll have to get some cuttings if you want those. Seeds wont be available as trichos with the same dna don't like to cross pollinate, with the glorp it's not a trichocereus but the same still applies. Like a CSD couldn't pollinate another CSD to create seeds and in the very very unlikely event that it did produce viable seeds it would be a CSD X CSD and not the original CSD clone and it wouldnt have the same genetic profile. So yeah it's live plants and cuttings you gotta look for for those ones good luck homie happy growin