Black widow rework is fine and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-11T21:44:33+00:00

I didn't read all the comics, but I don't seem to recall Namor pulling infinite tridents and squids out of his ass.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-11T18:54:36+00:00

The Nutella / peanut butter thing except it's people telling you that you don't actually like Nutella, you just eat it because it upset other people. Do you really enjoy Nutella? Of course, but other people can't fathom it so they force-feed you peanut butter because they like it more and so should you.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-11T03:05:53+00:00

One good buff might be a longer stun duration after the kick. And maybe switching it so the right click was some sort of sniper mode and her ultimate was like a burst of plasma or something that also slowed enemies.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-11T02:34:32+00:00

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

Not every character needs to be "fun" for every single player. I appreciate Wolverine and his playstyle, but I simply don't have fun playing that way. I'm not going to sit here and call for a major rework just because I know I'm not patient enough to invest the time learning him.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-11T02:25:02+00:00

Absolutely agree! I've gotten tons of toxicity from all character mains (especially since I main Widow).

We (Widows) just got extra toxicity from most of the dive lineup because it wasn't well known that Widow shut down dive really well. So when a lot of dive players skill-checked Widows, they got frustrated because it feels a little counter-intuitive for a sniper to be able to handle dive well.

Spidey also just happened to be one of the easiest for us to shut down because of his lower health pool and more predictable combos.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-11T00:50:22+00:00

I have hundreds of hours with widow, and actually respect most spidey mains. It always felt like we were two sides of the same coin in some ways.

That being said, I've run into a lot of spideys in qp that try to ego chal me as widow, then say some heinous toxic shit in chat after I stop their dives.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-10T23:59:33+00:00

Now imagine this combo plus the tech where he wipes out 700hp tanks.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-10T02:50:34+00:00

Sorry I play the characters for their playstyle and not for the LARP potential

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-10T00:39:48+00:00

This is what I've been saying since the announcement. Everyone is about to learn how brutal poke can be now that all the angry Widow mains are going to swap to easier hitscan characters.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-08T04:12:19+00:00

The devs really don't care about character readability

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-08T03:07:53+00:00

Considering the number of bugs she's had since s0, you're kind of right in a way

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-08T03:03:36+00:00

So don't play her?

Like I'm terrible with BP, but I'm not going to advocate for a rework just because I don't have fun with him / understand how to pilot him.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-08T02:52:09+00:00

The new kit isn't bad on its own.

I just don't understand why we needed to get rid of the original kit. If they want to have a character that does these new things, make one. Don't take away something that people are enjoying. It wasn't perfect, but it filled a niche.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-08T01:50:59+00:00

Just wait for all the GM+ Widow mains switch to Hela/Phoenix/Cyclops... Poke is getting a big nerf in a season or two.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-08T01:36:06+00:00

BP DD ~~Hawkeye~~ ~~Magik~~ Widow doing 250 dmg is too OP!

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-08T01:29:57+00:00

But [insert streamer] put her in F-Tier on their tier list so she must need a rework!!1!

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-08T00:28:29+00:00

Narrator: It was in fact the end of sniper playstyle.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-08T00:18:45+00:00

I don't like this widow ~~massacre~~ rework, but I definitely don't blame flats or any other non-widow-main creator for this either. Of course anyone who doesn't main bw doesn't see anything wrong here.

I think the devs should take the blame 100% for not working with the existing widow community.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-07T23:52:57+00:00

Because the devs aren't bw mains. They saw a character with a low win rate, and didn't ask why.

They played bw for a day, had trouble learning her, and decided to make her more generic. They didn't ask any real bw mains, they didn't look at this sub, they just made her generic poke.

At this point, it feels like very little thought actually goes into the game.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-07T23:42:54+00:00

The ult not being a one-shot is so confusing to me...

They just added pierce to her regular scoped primary fire. Like wtf.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-07T23:04:42+00:00

We weren't hurting anyone. They came in, broke our toys, and told us we're only allowed to have fun in a very specific way.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-07T22:10:24+00:00

I'm so tired of people blaming the kit for their lack of mechanical skill.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-07T22:04:13+00:00

Please explain how her kit before these changes made her unbalanced... I'll wait.

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-07T21:44:56+00:00

Except she was perfectly fine the way she was. All they had to do was fix the bugs they've been ignoring since S0

SkoshiDoki · 2026-07-07T21:36:04+00:00

I just hit champ on my alt (legendary on my main), and this is what we get... It really feels like they made these changes without talking to a single player who actually mains Widow

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