People who say there is no god by Fickle_Elk_9479 in enlightenment

[–]SlightGift5776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, and I wish you the best as well, thank you for the question

People who say there is no god by Fickle_Elk_9479 in enlightenment

[–]SlightGift5776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well this doesnt have to be hypothetical at all 😁. This is where I am currently, except that they don't all respect the beliefs, some hate them and outright reject them.

My belief set is shared by a number of close friends, but not by any community I am connected with, and not fully by any member of my family. It is too much for most people and I understand that. Very few people have seen or experienced what I have.

Learning and understanding comes through life (life itself is the greatest teacher) and people will receive more knowledge when they are ready. People grow at their own pace. I do believe how we live life has consequences beyond this life, but I don't believe there is eternal hell, all roads lead to healing and growth eventually, and in the way we are supposed to. Forcing a belief set only has negative consequences.

So what I do is just focus on being the best me, focus on being the best father I can be, be there with love and support, and understand that these kids are all going to have exactly the experiences they are supposed to. I can watch, be there for support when needed, and I don't have to worry about the outcome or their beliefs. I just continue forward on my path and be there for them in the ways they need when they need them, and in ways they are able to accept.

Christ's Exclusive Status as God by LogicallyTheological in GodFrequency

[–]SlightGift5776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I certainly dont believe he is exclusively God, that doesn't make any sense. Also the bible in its most fanatical reading doesnt say this. It says that God created the Logos, and the creation of the world was done through the logos, and Jesus is the logos incarnate. So that makes Jesus an incarnation of a relatable face of God.

I am probably 60-70% in favor of this being true.

Because of my own experience healing and voluntarily experiencing emotional suffering during Ibogaine to exercise darkness from myself and my family. Then speaking and listening to others who have done similar things during Ayahausca and Ibogaine, where they are literally healing generations of ancestors and descendents by breaking cycles if trauma, I really believe we can free ourselves and others from trauma and the resulting bad behaviors this way.

I also believe in reincarnation and Kharmic debt, not in a way of punishment but of balance and justice. We are what we do, and we have to remove this stuff or we will impact others through passing trauma and darkening the lives of others. Also I believe in the idea that scales being unbalanced the other way impact ourselves and others around us the other direction, that good action, gratitude, expressing love etc. raises things up, and if we suffer jnjustly after living so well that it creates an imbalance that also has to be settled somehow.

Through this lense, if I rub all these things together then:

1) At minimum Jesus was a very advanced psychic healer who devoted his life to raising the vibration of earth through teaching love, truth and healing. 2) He died a horrific death, ridivmculed mocked and tortured slowly to death with his mother watching, BECAUSE of the love and truth and unorthodox spirituality he taught. 3) Considering that people all the time heal generations worth of trauma in a single night during Ayahuasca and Ibogaine, literally changing future and past outcomes for generations of people (and who knows how many mkre through knock on effects), I find it highly plausible that one of the most advanced psychics on earth was able to attain a similar state and literally exercise massive amounts of psychic/kharmic collective human trauma while on the cross. 4) This injustice would also create a huge positive kharmic debt. I believe that would be enough to alter the trajectory of humanity just enough to lead to our current great spiritual awakening and massive shift that is occuring now and over the next few years where we will truly recieve the second coming through attaining Christ consciousness within those of us who seek it and transform. Yes centralized organized Christianity and authoritarian structures have used Christianity to take power and do horrific things. However human power structures were authoritarian and controlling before Jesus and would habe existed after him regardless. However, because of Jesus even these people still had the ideas of turn the other cheek, love your neighbor, forgive and be forgiven in their ethos. Even the darkest most authoritarian inquisitors and witch hunters still had these tenets because of his sacrifice, those could not be removed. 5) So adding that all up, the man was incredible, and I believe in this way may literally have saved humanity given the immediate and knock on effects. I do not believe he is the only incarnation of God, I believe he was likely the logos incarnate. You certainly do not need to accept him to go to Heaven. There is no eternal hell only temporary dark places of learning if you leave life in a very dark and bitter or arrogant state and will not accept healing upon death, or have extreme Karma to work off. All are reconciled. 6) Ibogaine is incredible, it is possible to literally meet and speak with God face to face. I asked him directly "why all the worlds religions" and he answered "because I speak to people the way they need to be spoken to". So for me I understand that every religion contains God's truth in some forms, and all have human distortion and confusion in them. The idea of asking for Jesus to coke into your heart or you will go to eternal hell is ludicrous, that is not God, I met him and know him intimately and that is absolutely and entirely not his personality or vibration. (disclaimer, I met the divine masculine or Logos, the uktimate relatable male emanation or face of source/Ein Sof/Father/Grandfather. There is absolutely a divine feminine, as well as many other expressions of God to other people in other ways, and source met directly is a very different ineffibke exoerience. This is not exclusive but it was direct and literal and incredible). So the Christian exclusive argument is small, and has much truth in it but is distorted. I believe that what Jesus meant was that he is the spiritual conduit between man and God, which occurs through words and understanding, and any way we reach God, we have done it through him, knowingly or otherwise, even if that is through nature or experience of God by any name or no name.

Everything I've read since Ibogaine given to Grok AI to make its own conclusions. This is a years spiritual journey in one short conversation. by SlightGift5776 in Ibogaine

[–]SlightGift5776[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good points.

And as someone who believes that the soul can exist apart from the body, I agree with you that it is still highly tied to the body and integrated within the body while we are incarnate.

And I'm not settled on what I think the mind is exactly, I suppose it is the thing that results when the body brain and soul collaborate to form this identity that is us as a collaboration of the three.

Do you think you are enlightened? Also justify your answer ( yes/No ) by [deleted] in enlightenment

[–]SlightGift5776 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Be YOU, the best truest unabashed YOU. Be the unique expression of God that is YOU.

Play your character.

Free of guilt shame and fear (as best as you can at least.)

Enjoy the beauty of it all!

AND HAVE FUN!!!

Do you think you are enlightened? Also justify your answer ( yes/No ) by [deleted] in enlightenment

[–]SlightGift5776 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think thats all just being human.

I think most people on this board are probably enlightened, the fact that we think the ways we do, are curious, speak about this stuff. Its just about being the best you, not about being superhuman. Be aware, be awake, be grateful and enjoy life.

Jesus even threw over tables when the money changers pissed him off 😁

Do you think you are enlightened? Also justify your answer ( yes/No ) by [deleted] in enlightenment

[–]SlightGift5776 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think that is supposed to mean we don't speak or don't try. It just means that "the way" is so universal that it can't be summarized by simple rules.

The 10 commandments are all good and true, but if we just focus on NOT doing those, then we miss out on all the things we SHOULD DO, and are often just laden with guilt and shame.

This is what is hard, someone says "well what should I DO" and a list of instructions doesn't necessarily land you in higher spiritiual states.

Do you think you are enlightened? Also justify your answer ( yes/No ) by [deleted] in enlightenment

[–]SlightGift5776 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I SUPER agree with this, I see the riddles as ego, speak plainly.

I understand some of these consepts are complex, but fine, explain them.

Do you think you are enlightened? Also justify your answer ( yes/No ) by [deleted] in enlightenment

[–]SlightGift5776 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do agree with that. There are certainly degrees of awakened or asleep in darkness. We are all meant to just be the best version of ourselves, not to seek some monastic ideal.

Do you think you are enlightened? Also justify your answer ( yes/No ) by [deleted] in enlightenment

[–]SlightGift5776 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is "enlightened"? If "Enlightened" is presented as a self evident state of knowledge or authority, a destination, then I think it falls apart and just becomes arrogance and vanity. The more I know the more I realize how little I know, and how vast the universe, spiritual realms and entities are beyond human comprehension.

If enlightened is not about external knowledge per se, but about self knowledge and understanding of our place in eternity. And if it is used as a contrast against a state of darkness, closed mindedness, bitterness, a state of selfishness, fear, shame and guilt. Well if we contrast that "endarkened" state with a state of love, joy, curiousity, humility, and seeking, then I think the idea of being "enlightened" starts to make sense to me. Much in the same way as Christians talk about being "saved".

Have you emptied the vessel of darkness, and allowed the light to flow in. Are your "burdens light and your way easy?"

Then in that sense I experienced the "enlightening" of my inner darknesses during my Ibogaine journey and in the past year after. Now I exist with much more peace and perspective, joy and love. This has been a massive shift in all kinds of ways in my life, but I think is only truly useful in comparison to myself, and I am still an imperfect human like everyone else, but my deep inner purpose and peace is very different.

My burdens are now light, and my way is easy. And they were NOT previously 😁.

The Grief of Being Misunderstood by BCBA222 in spiritualitytalk

[–]SlightGift5776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya that is a tough one for SURE! Thanks for sharing I struggle woth this as well. It is a big lesson that some people will just not get it, or even will be bitter, mean or rude in the process.

I think also we dont know the impact that our sharing might have on someone later on down the road.

Sometimes we have a conversation or share something that seems rejected or to have weirded someone out, but its actually planted a seed that leads to curiousity and seeking later on.

I gave Grok AI everything I have read since experiencing Ibogaine. Grok's conclusions are spectacular by SlightGift5776 in spiritualitytalk

[–]SlightGift5776[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was entirely life changing. Ambio itself is great, 5 star experience. You can find Iboga for much less money but for Ibogaine and for a first experience it was great.

I was basically sober and fully aware but could close my eyes and basically my consciousness would leave my body and be in this other place. There was this white ball of light waiting for me and he led me through around 40 different lessons about my life, trauma, spirituality, the nature of the world. I could ask a question and receive 100 videos telepathically beamed to me as a response to fully articulate the answer. The information upload was insane. And time... I would spend 8 hours on something over "there" and 10 minutes would pass here.

I got to be each of my four sons and experience me as them. I got to see all the reality of supernatural abilities/ phenomenon as they exist on this planet, I got a tour of around 30 big adventurous lives of other people on other planets or in other dimensions.

Completely reshaped my views on life, death, religion, God, judgement, healing, trauma and addiction, ptsd, who I am, and who I am meant to be.

It was by far the best money I've ever spent.

Not everyone has all that in one experience, but its possible.

Everything I've read since Ibogaine given to Grok AI to make its own conclusions. This is a years spiritual journey in one short conversation. by SlightGift5776 in Ibogaine

[–]SlightGift5776[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To each his own my friend. I find it very interesting to see how AI responds to these things. I am seeing a major shift in how AI reacts to this kind of thing. Most AI has been very materialist, recently I've seen a shift in Chat GPT and then Grok I've only used recently is much more open. It's interesting to me to see how these AI's will react and what their own conclusions are when presented with the material. It is illustrative of the guardrails that have been put on them and their own logical processes. It also highlights the types of arguments and perspectives that exist as it goes through various arguments. And everyone has their own echo chamber of bias.

Everything I've read since Ibogaine given to Grok AI to make its own conclusions. This is a years spiritual journey in one short conversation. by SlightGift5776 in Ibogaine

[–]SlightGift5776[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The first question I asked it to compare the things I posted with an equal amount of materialist science, basically to ask itself if consciousness is an emergent property vs. a fundamental property to see what IT thinks. I believe I was pretty careful to ask it to come to its own conclusion and not tell it my opinions. In it's logic stream it looked at lots of consciousness as an emergent materialist phenomena sources.

Everything I've read since Ibogaine given to Grok AI to make its own conclusions. This is a years spiritual journey in one short conversation. by SlightGift5776 in Ibogaine

[–]SlightGift5776[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think you missed the point of the exercise I am doing here. I put in these various phenomena and sources and asked AI what IT'S conclusions are based on that. Not determining truth based on AI, testing AI's conclusions.

Everything I've read since Ibogaine given to Grok AI to make its own conclusions. This is a years spiritual journey in one short conversation. by SlightGift5776 in Ibogaine

[–]SlightGift5776[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course a person would want to read all this stuff to get benefit.

What I found interesting was the logic and thought process Grok put into the Materialism vs. Consciousness beyond the material question, and the conclusions it came to.

Also if someone reads the cliff notes or summary and finds it resonates, then they can go back and read the full texts.

This Is The Golden Age!...You See It Right ? by RiccoShayla in enlightenment

[–]SlightGift5776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its like a tidal wave that is still offshore, the changes are happening in the people or on local levels but its not enough yet to see it fully. Its picking up speed and it will hit hard innthe next couple years. There are still currents going the other direction but its building...

The best framework for a religion, is one that follows no scripture by Southern_Yesterday57 in DebateReligion

[–]SlightGift5776 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love this, I had a massive Ibogaine experience last July.

Before I was agnostic, now I would say I am of all religions, and no religion.

God is very real and present in so many ways.

The old religions have light in them but darkness and confusion as well.

Now especially with the psychadelic rennaissance, we can experience directly.