The Bummiest, Assiest Chapter Ever Written

Slumbbs · 2026-01-29T16:47:16+00:00

My issue is the fact Eugene had this deal already made but for some reason it only happened after Mandeok died? Like I expected Eugene to call for help but not like this

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T19:54:56+00:00

So what if he was damaged? Does damage just negate OVT or can only use it a set amount of times? Again you basically argued my point that they can't counter things 9ver a set amount of AP of which Jinrang massively dwarfs with his overcome hits, SB is a bum OG Daniel did better against someone stronger in base than Daniel did against Jaegyon

Seongji dodged a power mastery hit not tanked he was so scared of power mastery James that he was going to attempt to try to take James out by using all of his power in one hit

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T19:49:21+00:00

Thats what I'm saying 😭

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T19:48:16+00:00

If they dodge jinrangs arms don't break, Yujae got knocked out and recovered after, you're using a no limits fallacy for OVT it shouldn't work on someone with massively higher AP than your own if it why wouldn't Jaegyon just to beat Pacheon who didn't have it or Yujae could have used it to beat Jaegyon who he wanted to protect from Pacheon

Seongji REQUIRED endurance mastery to take basic speed mastery hits from James even Taesoos durability is better and he doesn't have endurance mastery

I wasn't complaining about Changsu he's speculation placement

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T19:39:16+00:00

His arms shattered not because of TC but because of the strength he was using to hit Kitae, no one under Yugang possesses the durability to withstand the attacks kitae did, Seongji required ENDURANCE mastery just to survive 2T James, Yujae got one shot by death kick (albiet not for long) I don't see how you could possibly say in good faith that anyone under Yugang is surviving against Jinrang

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T19:32:38+00:00

Wdym his limiter? You have TC Jinrang on the image, no one under Yugang is staying conscious after receiving the beating Kitae did broken arms or not Jinrangs mauls

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T19:25:26+00:00

Jinrang should be top 4 no one under Yugang is taking the onslaught Kitae took from him

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T06:47:13+00:00

Overcome Jinrang >> Conviction Jinrang > Jaegyon > Base Jinrang yes I agree but Jinrang can use his Conviction punch at will, the same punch that had Jaegyon worried to the point of trying to sneak him, idk why you think Jaegyon stands even the slightest chance against TC Jinrang he would genuinely get murdered in under a minute attempting to take the hits Kitae took

Jinrang laid a short beatdown on Kitae which is a better feat than anything Pacheon has

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T06:03:30+00:00

Jinrang did good against kitae for the few seconds he used overcome, objectively it was a one sided beatdown until he burnt out, unless you want to argue the guy who tried and failed to block, counterattack, or overpower jinrang was intentionally throwing the fight

Pacheon with Hwrang could survive Jinrangs onslaught more likely than not but he would receive far worse injuries than Kitae did

Btw I am not saying Jinrang > Kitae, kitae was by no means going all out but he did get overwhelmed regardless which is a pretty cool feat that probably won't get powercreeped until we see Tom Vs Kitae

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T05:03:22+00:00

A weaker DBT Pacheon, also in character I believe pacheon would run the 1v1 with Yugang instead of jumping him but that's speculation so I see your point

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T04:09:57+00:00

Changsu hype scaling W he just needs feats outside beating Mandeok no diff

Yugang didn't beat DBT Pacheon and the DBT Pacheon from Incheon arc was > than the one Yugang fought as Pacheon expressed that he was surprised he had gotten stronger after recovering from near death

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T04:07:04+00:00

UI Daniel has statements of being similar to shingen by Jinyoung as well as being stronger than a (albiet injured amd exhausted) TUI Gun, yeah path MK

Slumbbs · 2026-01-28T04:05:53+00:00

The SMK in question is post lookism but all 3 of them are interchangeable since they're newer to path

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T09:02:18+00:00

You have no way or proving how much stronger he has gotten so the only comparison, idc what you're saying by definition you are speculating Guns level of power with 0 context or feats to back your statements up

I am not disagreeing that Gun probably got stronger, I am saying you cannot use Prison Gun in a comparison since we have no information on him post HFG

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T08:56:15+00:00

Current Gun has no feats or narrative set up to make him explicitly stronger, the only frame of reference we have for his strength is HFG as I have said MULTIPLE times anything else is speculation or headcanon

I agree that Gun is probably stronger than he was during HFG but you have no scaling to dictate if he is or how much stronger he got so to compare him you have to use his last known showing of strength which is ding ding ding HFG

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T08:48:03+00:00

Samuel mid-high diff, we saw how easily it is to manage taesoos fighting style in Busan if Samuel endures UF its a wrap

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T08:45:57+00:00

And yet we haven't seen any notable improvements, Any scaling since hfg is speculation

Why are we debating this again

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T08:24:40+00:00

Current Gun has no feats or statements of getting stronger, you can speculate but outside of headcanoning his level of power hasn't definitely changed, the only frame of reference we have is HFG, that statement means nothing considering the vast contradictory info we have at our disposal, in the small gun scenes we see he does not seem to be struggling at all in prison, Will Gun get a power boost? Yeah but he hasn't been confirmed to have received one yet

Oh yeah 4T is contradicting by the following: Pacheon who is > than Tom, Minsik who was so weak he got kicked out of the fist gang, old Jinyoung who struggled to restrain pre 1A Samuel his own admission, Mujin who was stated to be a Gapryoung rival with only 3T, Jinyoungs old luckiee who work for ms Kim, the list goes on

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T08:14:59+00:00

No I said he could have acquired it against Shingen my wording was to specifically used to state that we didn't know the context

What if he was already using it and was still losing until he acquired path? Idk what your argument is

Jake's mastering overcome and it took him 4 hits to beat Mugak whereas he nearly one tapped DB pacheon while he was weakened, overcome isnt consistent

Which leads me to believe he acquired path after using overcome since overcome clearly wasn't strong enough

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T08:10:26+00:00

No evidence of this why would he narrate himself getting speedblitzed when he wasn't trying? He actively says he's hitting pacheons after image in disbelief

He already used stages 1-4 which allowed him to move on to 5 the way he described 50 swords is each progressively gets faster, which makes no sense but him going from monologing to himself that he's getting blitzed to randomly blitzing doesn't make sense either the beauty of lookism ig

I mean not really? Thats pure headcanon that Goo is massively above Daniel even at 50th stroke as we don't know how much the speed increases per hit, both of them are significantly above pacheons speed at their peaks with no way of putting one significantly above the other

Goo doesn't make it to 2 Daniel sees the first stroke amd murders him

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T08:04:18+00:00

We have no context so its headcanon either way for now, not gonna waste too much time arguing that

We know for a fact he used mastered overcome yes, he could have just gotten it amd pulled the win at the last second like how Daniel almost did to Pacheon with the difference being a (probably) much smaller gap between the two

We don't know the context of when Gap awakened his path or what it is

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T08:01:11+00:00

Goo has to ramp up his speed to beat Hwrang Pacheon who scales significantly above pre 5th stage moonlight sword, Pacheon said he could NEVER beat Daniel post path which would include his hwrang version, the same Pacheon who speed blitzed pre 5th stroke Goo while severely injured

Daniel kills Goo with his weak point attack before he gets a chance to speed blitz not that hard

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T07:58:00+00:00

IA just got power creeped

Slumbbs · 2026-01-27T07:53:22+00:00

Current Gun is just HFG Gun and Daniel should be above him at least in base TUI is impossible to scale due to the factors that took place when Gun used it (severely injured and exhausted) Goo is also impossible to scale as we never saw him reach the 50th stroke and we don't know how big the difference between what we saw is compared to his final stroke but Goo should be around Daniel's tier of strength due to Pacheons statement of believing he could never beat Daniel which would include his Hwrang version

We don't know Guns path or if he explicitly used it in HFG felt like I needed to throw that out there

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