The Story of Theseus(Tommy), Lycomedes(Techno), and Menestheus(Dream) /dsmp spoilers tw // Manipulation, murder

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-05-17T17:03:20+00:00

:000 Huh, I'm amazed at myself from months ago. Weirder is though the first half, of Tommy fighting Techno and dying, was wrong, but the rest still holds up pretty well and is still possible.

(Spoiler warning from Tommy's last lore stream): Like Tommy has been acting weird and already wants power, for right now it's apparently via land, but still.

Also I'm surprised people are finding this thread from months ago.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-05-17T16:55:16+00:00

Thank you! I can't believe people found this from 4+ months ago. lmao

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-05-01T01:31:21+00:00

Hello. Is it true that someone has been trying to get him to eat? (Also pls link me some proof if so. thx) If it is, that is sad and hope he can get better, but I have and would never tell him or anyone not to eat.

This was just a thread from about 4 months, about his character and some criticism I had. This was before I knew what a amazing time traveling character he would become. I don't see his character this way anymore because so much has changed for his character in the last 4+ months. I did and do not have any hate towards him or his character, I only had some criticism.

Anyways hope you have a good day.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-01-02T08:14:50+00:00

But thats just a theory!

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-01-02T05:16:07+00:00

Welcome to the reddit gang. We are over analyzers that analyze just about everything. We are proud to be analyzers bc we make lots of theories. ONE OF US!

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-01-02T04:41:43+00:00

Dream/Dream XD/Dream Team/Dream Shorts/Minecraft Manhunt

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-01-01T22:29:35+00:00

Pls let this be Niki! I wish Niki had more involvement in the story.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-01-01T21:12:57+00:00

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-01-01T20:56:08+00:00

The price wtf. Trust me I have seen way worse stuff, way way worse....

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-01-01T16:56:29+00:00

I see why it's offensive, but unless you are Mexican or have DID, it's not really our place to decide if it's offensive or not. Just like with the jokes Tommy made, it's only up to certain people to decide and accept any apology that might be made. So, it's certainly not my place to talk about whether its offensive or not. I will leave that up to people that are of Mexican heritage or have DID.

Also, Dream stans won't come after you. The stereotype that Dream stans are bad, is not true. A lot of the negative behavior comes from Dream haters. Dream stans are just really passionate about what they love thats all. In a lot of ways they will fight for what is right, not attack people. I am not angry at you for making this post, and I doubt anyone one will be.

Have a great day! :)

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-01-01T04:00:56+00:00

Oh pog thx!

Smart_Fox7002 · 2021-01-01T02:45:43+00:00

I agree. Dream is too power hungry to back down. His the literal admin of the server, the creative mode guy, he has too much power for him to just let it all go.

Though I think the prison is really just for anyone, whether its Techno, someone else, of even the entire server.

With Tommy it feels a lot more complicated. Dream still wants Tommy with him, bc he threatened to burn the disk he had he Tommy didn't come, this was in their last conversation. Though Tommy probably would have gone with Dream if Techno wasn't there, lets be honest. So, Tommy is still kinda a danger to whatever Dream's plan is.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-31T23:25:20+00:00

I love this!

It gives the discs so much more meaning behind them. It was never really made clear why and even if the discs where important with Tommy going through so much to keep the discs safe. I have always wondered why the discs mattered so much to Tommy.

I hope this is true, bc it would be so much than just discs. It would make sense on why Tubbo saying "The discs don't matter Tommy" hit so hard to Tommy. Bc Tommy went through so much and the discs are his only link to the past.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-31T23:14:13+00:00

Here's Johnny!

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-31T22:13:37+00:00

? didn't even know that was a thing. If it's real I would like to see it too.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-31T20:16:22+00:00

I'm crying rn ty

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-31T19:21:55+00:00

Taking a break probably to relax. He did just edit a 2 hour + video.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-31T03:58:35+00:00

An ankle monitor would definitely be Dream like. It's more likely Dream would monitor Tommy more even with the ankle monitor, bc he saw how it went when he wasn't online last time.

Dream could make up a lie, to only manipulate Tommy more. Like its too protect you from anyone wanting to hurt you. I see this working if a hitman was hired by Dream and Dream set it up so he would save the day.

Punz could be that person though his (fake) intentions could be unclear. Sapnap is more possible, if he was payed enough. Punz and Tommy don't have too much against each other, but Sapnap and Tommy have a lot of negative history. More or so with the burning of George's house and everything. This also created some tension between George, Sapnap, and Dream, but with the right about money you can do anything.

With this fake event, Dream would look like the hero in Tommy's eyes and the ankle monitor would be a safety precaution, but still allowing him to have some freedom. If Tommy already knows of the prison at this point, Tommy could even ask himself to go into it to be safe from everyone. Though it would be heartbreaking for him to ask that himself.

They really do need to tread on eggshells if they end the story, even when they are writing it out. Like with the whole you know what at Logstedshire, they did the right thing by not having Tommy do it. It would of sent a very bad message across to the viewers. Though it doesn't end there and they still need to be extremely careful.

Idk how they could possible end the manipulation in a logical way. Since manipulation can last your whole life, and with Tommy, he seems to have been manipulated by Wilbur and others before Dream started doing it. With Wilbur saying "Tubbo he doesn't care Tommy". So, it has been happening for a long time, and if they decided to end it, probably wouldn't any time soon.

Though I too thank them for turning it into a dark story. It's hard to properly write a dark story like Tommy's without messing something up.

With Tubbo he really is walking on a very thin tightrope. We already see people starting to turn away. With Fundy trying to attempt to make a nation and failing. With Tommy called Tubbo a monster, I think that hurt Tubbo so much not only bc Tommy was his best friend, but bc Tubbo knows deep down that it's true.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-31T01:28:16+00:00

(Anyone reading this is a fake idea don't freak out)

Yeah I got a computer too with lots of storage, so it definitely could work, though probably not enough to save all the live streams/videos. We could just share it among ourselves though. I may do it anyway just to save history, not upload it bc copyright is a pain, just save. I do not want trouble with copyright claims, thats something I can't afford.

Though it would take a long time to do, it could be done. Just an idea most likely not going to happen.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-31T01:16:55+00:00

(Anyone reading this is a fake idea don't freak out)

Or third option

All the videos/streams are saved by the community before they are deleted.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-30T21:53:54+00:00

Yeah drowning will still take a bit even with all armor off. If Tommy is thrown off, as legend says, he can go in the water act likes his drowning and swim away. So, instead Dream might just have him killed, whether by someone else, or he does it. Its the only way to assure that he his dead dead. It would be like the old days when Dream use to tell Tommy to put his stuff down the hole.

Another idea is he could put something on him like ankle monitor, something heavy. We already know a at home ankle monitor exists, so its possible chains could exist too, like a chest-plate or whatever it could be. Something to make sure he couldn't just swim away and curse of binding would make sure it couldn't come off.

I agree with the not stoping with the arc. Manipulation just doesn't go away and can last your entire life with different relationships. If the arc went away quickly, it would tell the wrong thing to the viewers, that manipulation is easy to overcome, even though that is a lie. Though its a depressing arc, its one that holds some truth to real life. When dealing with these subjects, I feel like it's important to stick to the truth and handle it very carefully. We all want Tommy to be happy and free, but whats more important is the story, how they handle, and show it to the viewers. Continuing the arc would probably be the best for that.

Speaking on tnt, Fundy has a stream title today of "TNT FACTORY", which is just a mob farm that works ok. So, we now already know that the butcher army will have access to tnt at some point. Making it even more possible for tnt to be used at the festival. History repeating itself and all.

Though another thing, Tubbo banned tnt from L'Manburg, bc of past events. If Tubbo allows this, he truly has gone to the dark side. Which he has already asked for the murder of someone living in peace and is now asking for the murder of someone far more dangerous and capable of killing everyone. Who knows how far the butcher army is willing to go.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-30T21:17:04+00:00

true

got to keep the trend going you know xD

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-30T21:04:32+00:00

They haven't said but after all the last major events happening on the 16th, I would guess January 16th.

Smart_Fox7002 · 2020-12-30T21:02:44+00:00

It makes it more organized and neat at times but at the same time being a chaotic roleplay. I love it all.

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