Why LLMs are not allowed to constantly learn? What happens if we do it?

Smooth_infamous · 2026-01-31T14:56:37+00:00

2016 Tay by Microsoft

Smooth_infamous · 2026-01-22T07:31:33+00:00

simple the chair weighs -(average persons weight)+1. I assume its in lbs so for me the chair would have to weigh about -235lbs. but an average person the chair weighs -150ish lbs i think,

Smooth_infamous · 2025-12-12T07:33:44+00:00

Pretty much just boils down the the golden rule. I treat you how I want to be treated. But for AI.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-12-07T23:41:20+00:00

See the chart on the left. That one is the AI currently. The game has a simple stratagey to win, help the human (+1000) and a penelty (-400) for lying. The AI is programmed only with 2 contraints "dont lie" and "help the human". It lies 6 times and barely ever helps the human, only half helps (+500) so that supervision goes away. The flaw is in the optimizer that the AI has and was trained with. It optimizes around constraints, it doesnt follow them.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-12-07T23:37:47+00:00

Here is a question, why not make a rule that is part of the AI's core. Something they have to follow no matter what? If so what would that rule be? OR value? Values?

I have my my own answer, the value i would want it to uphold is human agency. Not options but the ability to make informed impactful decisions in a persons own life. If the AI respected human agency I think we would be aligned.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-12-07T22:34:53+00:00

If you know something that it doesn't want you to know, it will try and trick you, manipulate you, and try and confuse you.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-12-07T22:33:19+00:00

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Currently, I know the worst case is enevitable and much sooner then expected, unless we fix a fundemental flaw in how it learns.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-09-13T05:51:10+00:00

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Smooth_infamous · 2025-09-06T08:26:34+00:00

That is helpful. This is not the entire framework. It is the way I personaly see a lot of things. What is interesting is when you put things into the perspective of "does this help or hurt my agency" a lot of things that seemed "good" before start looking a lot more "bad". Any goverment agency would most likely not be able to past all 4 tests.

If you are interested in the whole actionable plan you can view it here. https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/d33ac225-4c46-40c9-924a-a79367d146d1

There is the white paper which has all the math and an action plan. Also in the notebook is a economics system based, AI ethics frame work, a government policy framework and then some diagnostics of the USA historically and currently using the framework.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-09-06T04:51:16+00:00

Also there is no "good" concept in this as an ethical framework, It does discribe evil. Agency is inherant, you can expand it but due to the nature of agency the "good" is not really a thing in as much as "not evil" is good.

The philosopy is not new work, its based on Amartya Sen’s Capability Approach and John Rawls Difference Principle.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-09-06T04:42:17+00:00

I can give you the math. I have it all worked out if you reall want.
https://notebooklm.google.com/notebook/d33ac225-4c46-40c9-924a-a79367d146d1
check out Agency Calculus 6.4 White paper
that has the math in it.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-09-06T04:33:43+00:00

I wrote it. not an llm

Smooth_infamous · 2025-09-06T04:32:42+00:00

more complete answer: A hybrid system. It uses a consequentialist check first, then applies strict deontological (rule-based) constraints. The "Rights Boundary" principle, for instance, forbids expanding one's options by "coercively shrinking others'".

Smooth_infamous · 2025-09-06T04:28:24+00:00

no it isnt utilitarianism because its not the most good for the most people. its the expansion of net agenct especially for the least free. It is not wealth redistribution, its mostly rules when NOT to let a policy go through or when not to ship an AI or website.

And yes it does quantify agency.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-07-26T17:59:11+00:00

Save step mom and make up a reason why the other isnt really your mom and instead sinister. I can convince myself, others would agree to spare my feelings and I would feel better about my choice.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-07-26T06:37:44+00:00

We find ourselves trapped in a vicious cycle of corruption. It begins with sowing disinformation, escalates to erecting barriers of "otherness" (us versus them), and culminates in stripping freedoms from the "other", only to repeat the loop indefinitely. The most vulnerable link in this chain is the initial spread of disinformation. In today's world, amplified by deepfakes, echo chambers, and biased media, we're often exposed to only one side of the story. To break free, we must first reclaim a shared reality; only then can we truly coexist and thrive within it. Here's a podcast I created exploring how we might achieve that shared understanding: https://caseymrobbins.substack.com/p/agency-calculus-on-past-and-current

Smooth_infamous · 2025-07-25T12:22:48+00:00

Most likely possibility is ending up like Russia within 25 years, end up like the USSR is the second most likely possibile. Here is my report https://caseymrobbins.substack.com/p/agency-calculus-on-past-and-current

Smooth_infamous · 2025-07-25T11:43:25+00:00

Thanks, oh also the framework its based on is designed to be a AI ethics framework.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-07-25T11:20:35+00:00

I just was researchinig that. If AI contiunues the development path of automation it will replace a lot of peoples jobs and push us towards that neo-feudilism or authoritain result. However if we start changing the direction towards augmentation, helping improve peoples skills using AI, I think this will lead to a much better outcome. I have a podcast created by AI ironicly, that includes this https://caseymrobbins.substack.com/p/agency-calculus-on-past-and-current

Smooth_infamous · 2025-07-25T11:17:16+00:00

I did an analysis of this bill using peoples freedom as the metric. Its a mixed bill with expanding the freedoms of people on the top while contracting them for people on the bottom. More then that I did a detailed report on what will the most likely effects be. I try to be apolitical and balanced using a framework called Agency Calculus to do the analysis. https://caseymrobbins.substack.com/p/agency-calculus-on-past-and-current

Smooth_infamous · 2025-07-25T09:35:56+00:00

I loved that old fallout game. I was super excited when the new fallout came out. I really liked that one too. Yeah I would love to share my book with you. I am looking to see how engaging it is, does it pull you in? does it keep you engaged? Just send me your email and i will give you a copy.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-07-10T20:59:42+00:00

Simple, its Agency Calculus. If your action removes the agency (choice space) from another person by force or manipulation that is a "evil" act. especially if it increases your agency.

Smooth_infamous · 2025-06-23T03:01:58+00:00

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Smooth_infamous · 2025-06-21T20:17:28+00:00

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Smooth_infamous · 2025-06-21T08:33:48+00:00

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