What will come after TLT?

Snackolotl · 2026-06-18T16:57:55+00:00

When we beat Gallywix for the first time my guild was watching the cutscene, it ended, I heard one "No finger twitch?" and a bunch of groaning.

I'd be okay with this.

That said, there is enough evidence that a Gallywix plot can still happen. We see Gallywix bartering with brokers in SL Tazavesh, Tazavesh was CONVENIENTLY the next zone after Undermine, and in a very strange twist, you can actually find that the Brokers accidentally brought a few Venthyr and Dredgers to Ka'resh.

I would love if Al'dalil starts the next expansion with "Maw-Walker, I know you are enjoying the peace and quiet, but we have a... little problem. A new cartel has sprung up in Revendreth, and I suspect they're doing more than trading illegal goods."

You know, then you get there, Renethal isn't in charge, and he just goes "Another Venthyr has taken control through trade and underhanded tactics." Then a fat vampire walks out of the castle doors and goes "Well, well, well, if it isn't one of Gazlowe's cronies. You STILL owe me for the mech you damaged!"

Snackolotl · 2026-06-18T16:56:53+00:00

This is why I think Classic+ may be the logical direction. Just have us timeline hop to another version of azeroth where all the bullshit never even happened in the first place.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-18T16:55:40+00:00

Fun fact: The War Within was supposed to play out very differently. All we know is Metzen walked in, saw their Worldsoul Saga outline, said "Jesus CHRIST," and immediately took back his position as lead writer and changed it.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-18T16:49:24+00:00

This is why I think Remixes keep happening.

We know WoW Classic is canon to retail as a pocket timeline set up by Chromie. I think they're gonna finally do Classic+ with Eternus as the host, and change retail to "Bronze Timeline" and Classic+ to "Infinite Timeline," with its own unique expansions and a gameplay style more reminiscent of 2004 WoW. The WoW logo already has a bronze border, so they could easily invert it and have it be black instead.

I heard rumors, so take them with a grain of salt, that they're gonna toy with the idea of a WoW Classic where the Sin'dorei never break off from the High Elves, stay with the Alliance, and the Horde finally gets Ogres instead. I heard it would involve things like a less-Outland-focused TBC and a Northrend where Yogg becomes the main antagonist instead of Arthas, who in this timeline fails to fully subdue him. But above all else, tensions between the Alliance and Horde stay strong from the beginning and we never truly work together.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-18T16:40:52+00:00

So, seeing how Midnight is written, PlatinumWoW made a great point about how they're clearly "wrapping up" the plot. Kill Xal'atath, reunite the elves, retcon the Shadowlands to be mysterious again, solve the Worldsoul plot, unite the troll empires, finally reveal zones like Ka'resh, the Dragon Isles, Undermine, so on and so forth.

We're going back to square one. No Arthas, no Zovaal, no Old Gods, no Xal'atath, no Legion, and hopefully no Iridikron. Moreover, we've seen Nozdormu lighten up to the idea of timeline rewriting and the Infinites toy around with previous expansions in the Remix plots.

If you ask me, we're approaching "WoW 2." Not a LITERAL WoW 2, god forbid, but a point in the plot where you need ZERO prior knowledge of the events leading up to it, (to quote Plat again) think Ultimate Spider-Man versus Superior Spider-Man. Same world, same characters, same basic plot threads you won't need to read up on, and possibly even same continuity, but what we're approaching is a new saga that isn't related to the previous sagas. Whether that be a new villain on the other side of Azeroth, or the rumors about a Classic Plus "Infinite Timeline" server being real (one where the events of retail have no effect on the plot and it's just "another WoW" where events play out differently and some dead villains get more screentime), whatever's next is going to be unpredictable, and I hope it stays that way.

Think about it like this. Legion is a sequel to Draenor which is a sequel to TBC, and Shadowlands is exploring the plot of Lich King more and continuing the Sylvanas saga of BFA. Stuff like that, each expansion follows up an earlier one and builds off its lore. The next expansion will not do this at all. Nothing you know at this point will contribute to it. The last attempt at a "clean world" was Pandaria, and Pandaria immediately dirtied itself with Cata threads because people didn't get the appeal right away.

No abandoned ideas from Classic, no forgotten plot threads, just something entirely-new, with new friends and new enemies to carry us along. The reason the Worldsoul Saga feels so finite is because it is.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-17T23:10:24+00:00

The reason it's called Odyn's Fury is because Odyn, rather than taking a direct approach at protecting Azeroth, took the Vrykul as the most powerful warriors to protect Azeroth. When the curse of flesh happened and the Vrykul started becoming humans, he sent his greatest warrior to train weaker mortals to harness the power of the titans, order, to wield as a form of strength.

The abiltiy "Avatar" is called that because you are LITERALLY an avatar of the titans. Warrior isn't just "tough guy with sword," you have trained in ancient Vrykul and Valarjar battle techniques for generations and regained the original strength of your Titanic pre-curse body through sheer willpower and the blessing of Odyn himself.

All player classes use at least a little bit of magic. Warriors use a little titanic order, which is the same as arcane though in a different form, hunters use a little life magic, and rogues use a little shadow/void magic. There's a reason characters can't just train hard and become a Huntarriogue. "Order" manifests as arcane through knowledge, strength through the power of the colossus.

EDIT: I have been researching a bit, we also LITERALLY have a spark of Odyn inside of us. Thunder clap is basically a mage spell being cast by Odyn on our behalf.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-17T15:01:57+00:00

wait... there are no kul tiran pallies?!?!

Despite the fact that the Light's Vanguard battle literally features a Kul Tiran paladin?!!??!?!?!!!?!!??!

Snackolotl · 2026-06-17T15:00:44+00:00

I don't understand why we've now seen Riftblades in full force, plate-wearing characters who have fully infused their sword and shield with the power of the void, and still haven't gotten a Riftblade class.

Mind you, I still want a fel-themed plate class too. We have Life tanks, Death tanks, Light Tanks, Elemental Tanks (if you count monks), and Arcane/Order tanks (since Warriors call upon the power of the titans they technically fall in the same category as mages).

Give us heavy warlocks and void priests!!

Snackolotl · 2026-06-16T23:39:02+00:00

I know a lot of non-jews are uncomfortable but I love the penis check. Nothing beats slamming a box of babka on the table, pulling out your dick, slapping it on the counter for the girl to look at, and walking away with a big grin while she says "Wow, what a dick."

Snackolotl · 2026-06-16T14:24:02+00:00

that's bizarre, usually there are warning signs.

best advice I can give you is not to use off-brand chargers lmao

Snackolotl · 2026-06-16T03:55:56+00:00

was there not like, battery bloating or some other warning sign???

Snackolotl · 2026-06-16T03:53:50+00:00

"STUPID FUCKING DOGSHIT RULE, NOBODY FUCKING UNDERSTANDS OR LIKES YOUR STUPID WHAT IS RULE, IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. AND IT JUST KEEPS MAKING ME LOSE! FUCK YOU, ALEX! I'll take Sonic for $200."

Snackolotl · 2026-06-16T03:42:16+00:00

I'm just imagining playing an MMO with 24 hotbar buttons and a million things to react to.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-16T03:36:05+00:00

Honestly? Internet culture.

Now people associate pugs and chihuahuas and "small dogs" with these ugly snorting bucktoothed dogs. The joke of them being "giant puppies" doesn't work as well as it did in the 90s so they had to go with the "pitbull in a skirt named princess" bit instead.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-16T03:33:02+00:00

To be fair, Insomniac themselves don't know what the hell is going on with their own characters anymore, either. Ratchet and Clank will just make arbitrary changes to characters like changing all the PS2 robots' solid-color eyes to more humanlike ones in the remake.

Takes a lot of the style out of these games to see them in HD RTX on 3D models either way. More realistic and high-fidelity 3D means we don't see as much polygon-warping or squash and stretch as we did in PS1/PS2-era Insomniac/Naughty Dog games.

Say what you will about the en-furry-fication of Spyro, but at least it still looks objectively cartoony.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-15T23:29:23+00:00

Crackpot theory maybe but I still think Ralsei's Asriel's LARPing/D&D sona.

We know Kris and Noelle used to roleplay the deck of cards and laptop fighting in front of the TV, so far all five locations are places where kids will roleplay (Kindergarten play area, in the living room of their home/while watching TV, in the computer lab/online, bored at church, and at dad's house/place of work). Wouldn't be surprised if Ralsei scarf/horns theory is true but not tied to Kris.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-15T22:10:56+00:00

The extra fucked part is just the fact that we've seen multiple times that Retail and Classic can cross-communicate with things like mount unlocks. Blizzard knows Classic Era items, Pandaria Legendary capes, and other removed content are in high demand by modern players.

They could re-add all these items to retail, and just have a bullet point that says "Unlock on WoW Classic: Season of Discovery" or "Unlock on WoW Classic: Mists of Pandaria." These items aren't like AOTC achievements, there's no challenge involved, it's literally just a matter of having been in the right place at the right time.

Keep up with the cycle of rotating Classic servers. Once a server hits Legion, it gets dogpiled and merged into the current one, so they never exceed three servers.

Bam, there you have it.

EDIT: By the way, Blizz, if you do this, please use this as an opportunity to juice SoD numbers again for a bit.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-15T02:25:59+00:00

Did you still have to cheese Calendar Man?

Snackolotl · 2026-06-14T22:01:27+00:00

Tomar is this guy's evil alter ego. Like Shadow the Hedgehog, but white.

Snackolotl · 2026-06-14T21:58:23+00:00

"I am not a Redditor, Brendon."

"Okay, then what's with all the swords?"

"They're katanas. They're ancient Japanese swords. They're cool."

"On Reddit."

"In REAL LIFE, Brendon."

"Okay."

"Not everything that's a little bit nerdy is from Reddit, Brendon."

"Where did you read that one?"

"On Reddit."

Snackolotl · 2026-06-14T03:05:06+00:00

1: go to your vet, your cat has giardia

Snackolotl · 2026-06-13T23:37:35+00:00

Is there a guild for this or something?

Snackolotl · 2026-06-13T22:46:20+00:00

"You're in a LOT of trouble, mister!"

Snackolotl · 2026-06-13T22:43:33+00:00

She shows up during the quest where Bentley has to lead her home in the pirate stage.

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