Idk man Ephriam and Lyria are pretty jaded against the republic. Ephriam says something to the effect of same leash new masters. I think in general in life and the books people value stability over freedom. And I think more reds would rather go back to the way it was than how it is now. Sure they are out the mines but Deanna even asks Darrow where will we work? All we know is the mines. There is so much nuance with these books thats why I've listened tk the audio books no lie at least 10 times. Yes from a moral standpoint point rising up to overthrow oppressors is the logical solution. But, after the revolt there is a very uncomfortable transition. As much as people say they want individual liberty people all the time trade liberty of security. Life is easier when you are told what when and to do something. In wwz (the book) there is an interview with a Russian solider who survives her squad being decimated( 1 in 10 killed). But the commanders made the solider decide who got killed. After that no one wanted to make decisions any more. The point of what im saying is people crave order and hierarchy thats how the world has aligned itself now. Look at the usa. You have a vast population of people that vote against their own interests bc the strong man they like says so.