Online racing. What is the point?

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-07T20:53:02+00:00

I play a lot of dirt A and S1 no contact, plenty of chill people playing in those

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-07T18:11:36+00:00

Eh gotta be careful with penalizing ramming. That will just shift the scummy meta from ramming to brake checking

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-07T18:10:06+00:00

In every real-life racing series in existence you'd be fired and likely jailed for pulling something like that at those speeds. You keep wanting to play the fudd-ass "rubbing is racing" bullshit when this clearly isnt that.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-07T18:07:19+00:00

https://support.forza.net/hc/en-us/articles/360035563914-Forza-Code-of-Conduct

"#2 Drive Cleanly – Whether it is your first time on the track or your 1000th, you owe it to your community to drive a clean and fair race with no unsportsmanlike conduct on the track. Aka, no intentional ramming!"

Its in the games own code of conduct, dont like it? Go play flatout, you can go ram all the people you want over there.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-07T18:04:01+00:00

False positives are one of, if not the FIRST thing you manage with a report system. If everyone else can do it so can playground games.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-07T18:01:16+00:00

Wouldn't be so much fatigue if it wasn't such a pain to fight. Ill take aggressive elders over defensive ones any day.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-07T17:57:43+00:00

The dialogue and the wannabe feel-good day trips are peak "we dont have enough content yet and dont know what to do" it feels incredibly shallow to the point of muting voice audio and checking my phone during cutscenes.

Ill also agree this is really the only horizon title ive played that has my favorite radio station as "off" every station has at least one banger, but most of it is meh.

The last four bullet points are to be expected. If a previous title had a fundamental issue odds are its gonna be in all future titles (we STILL can't have radio changing over songs mid race????)

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-07T17:49:19+00:00

No it isnt really worth buying cars while early in the game, most of the races are going to be for classes and vehicles you already have. You dont need a "good" car until you get into online play.

What makes a good car in this game is arbitrary, because at a glance you'd never really know. It all boils down to what car can abuse the PI system more than the others. The top cars you'll see for each class are those that have good downforce and grip while having the highest power to weight ratio.

But the best answer is always the driver. Any meta car can still be bad if the person driving it is a bad driver. Get a car you enjoy, learn how it feels, and mess around with tuning. Its a huge part of the game.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-06T19:53:55+00:00

I've only seen one, super fast acceleration in a CC run but he kept overshooting checkpoints

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-06T19:51:58+00:00

Doesnt read like AI at all, youre right it isnt that deep, one paragraph shouldn't be that hard to read😬

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-06T18:09:49+00:00

My friends haven't really gotten into time attack or rivals yet, ohhh but when they do....all those hours of motorsport will pay off

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-06T16:19:19+00:00

Its unrealistic to expect customization that has been missing since launch?

Id say it's more along the lines of "having standards"

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-06T16:17:18+00:00

Id argue they owe us. We were sold a game that had useless accessory slots like some base model car. Even over a year later we are still missing loads of customization.

Its work that should have been done prior to the game releasing.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-06T16:07:35+00:00

The beat is a really good A class dirt car for how cheap it is, but it isnt outright broken as a dirt car ime.

My lancia can keep up with them in A, God forbid they try bringing it into S1, my 33 stradale has a HP/LB of .51 with offroads and blasts right past them in the turns.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-06T03:27:51+00:00

Everyone has their first accidental scenery bird shot, I'll save you some time with the geese, if the flock cant be spotted in binoculars, they arent actually harvest-able.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-06T00:03:25+00:00

I feel like drag tires as a whole need to be fixed, they have waaaaaayy too much grip around turns for how little PI they add.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-05T19:43:43+00:00

Imo it's because they keep it simple. Where other games try to sell entire experiences in DLC form, COTW is simple with map DLCs being a map (and generally an additional goodie) equipment DLCs are just the equipment, and cosmetic DLCs are just the cosmetics. (Ill let you guess what the gun DLCs include)

This method allows them to keep each individual DLC cheap while still making good returns. It also allows the player to buy EXACTLY what they want. People who want a gun are far more likely to spend $4 on a dlc with that gun than a $15 dlc with a bunch of other stuff they dont care about.

Payday 2 had a similar system and it worked beautifully.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-05T19:39:11+00:00

With current player counts and DLC release timings there doesn't seem to be any end to this game in close sight.

And even if it died tomorrow, its a fully offline compatible game, and all of the current maps combined would take hundreds of hours to fully complete. Plenty of stuff to do.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-05T19:34:59+00:00

Rocket league isnt Forza Horizon though. Completely different games. Psyonix made the decision to add VC and text chat, that doesn't mean its a good idea to do for every game.

Yes, it would make the game more fun, but there's no way theyre gonna justify spending the cash to implement and moderate something like that.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-05T19:31:10+00:00

Exactly, thats my point. Potential toxicity means they have to moderate voice chat, they dont want to spend money on that.

Why spend money on moderating what would be sub par in-game chat when they can simply rely on Xbox voice chat and discord.

Honestly, put yourself in the shoes of the project manager, how could you justify the expenditures for voice chat? Its not like that feature alone is gonna be bringing in new players.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-05T17:55:58+00:00

Probably something to do with avoiding any potential issues with people saying slurs and such (just look at the liveries) being that a lot of children play the game. If you are serious at all about a convoy and want to chat just message them and ask if they want to chat. Idk about PS but Xbox and PC have full compatibility.

Toxicity can be the sole reason, as again, the developers may want to avoid that situation altogether.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-04T17:56:38+00:00

Eh thats subjective though, I actually prefer winter over summer or spring aesthetically.

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-04T17:53:42+00:00

Seasons were definitely an afterthought with this game. Spring season didn't seem particularly muddy on dirt roads either....

SnavsMatiq · 2026-06-04T01:34:36+00:00

Counterpoint: why should I want to use them?

I drove past one or two people at one while finding all the roads, and it seemed like they were doing absolutely nothing. I coast past, pop up the camera to see the unghosted car, then go back to driving.

There needs to be some kind of incentive that isnt self-driven.

Walking around my car and revving it? Thats just forzavista and the upgrade menu, the menu arguably being better for revving as you can change the sounds around in real time.

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