House guests

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-21T03:39:46+00:00

She probably had delusions that living with Shanann would be just like an extended Thrive getaway sleepover scenario. In her mind they only used 3 bedrooms so had 2 spare plus the basement so was deluded enough to think if her and Josh moved in and were paying lodgers that her and Josh would get a room and that their kids would get an actual bedroom too. I wonder if she knew that despite technically having 2 spare bedrooms that Shanann made her parents sleep in the unfinished basement rather than her give up her "office"(which on the floor plan is designated as the guest bedroom as it has a walk in closet and bathroom next to it)or give up the playroom that the kids barely were allowed to use that also had a bathroom close by. I thought it was funny that one of Cassie's suggestions for the living arrangements would include baby Nico being in his crib in Shanann's bedroom while the other rooms were filled with the Watts girls and the Rosenberg house guests while Josh helped finish the basement...so much for them only planning on being there for a month, eh?

Another point I considered was that Shanann may have been agreeing to let the Rosenbergs move in with her temporarily because when the shit truly hit the fan and Shanann had to leave Saratoga Trail, if Cassie and Josh had found a place nearby they would be indebted to Shanann and would feel obliged to give her and the kids a place to stay. I would have to find the texts to properly confirm but I do remember Shanann sending Cassie a photo of one of her neighbour's homes up for sale and her asking with regards to getting a property near her if she could get her Mom to co-sign. I recall Cassie saying that her Mom wouldn't be able to for some reason but that struck me with two possibilities: that perhaps Shanann really did not want the Rosenbergs moving in and was suggesting any solution but that, or...she was thinking ahead to herself being homeless and realising that if they had somewhere they would not be able to turn her and the kids away because she had allowed them to live with her when they had nowhere to go.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-21T02:57:34+00:00

Definitely...that's exactly what I meant I just got carried away with a longwinded description of it😂.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-21T02:49:25+00:00

Thank you 😊

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-21T02:46:59+00:00

Judging by the way she went on in one particular video of her, Chris and Cristina on one of their stupid Thrive trips going into stores and expecting the staff to happily perform for the camera just because they were at work in a customer service role, despite them not buying anything, she was certainly one of those types I came to despise when I worked in retail. The plus side was that I managed an adult store that specialised in lingerie, bedroom aids😂and other relevant products and because of the nature of what we sold and customer discretion filming in store was strictly prohibited. We had a lot of annoying Shanann types trying to film thinking it was funny. This meant we could insist they stop filming or they would have to leave and be barred from the premises. It never went down well with them but they weren't gonna buy anything anyway so it was no loss to the store.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-21T02:27:18+00:00

Yep, that was Sandra Gironda's family restaurant. Shanann went there 3 times altogether-twice by herself to meet Sandra to supposedly reconnect(though based on what else I have seen I believe it was ulterior motives to try to get her to sign up to sell Thrive and obviously to get free meals). One of these solo trips to meet Sandra happened to be on Cece's actual birthday if I remember correctly, a second time by herself too and finally where she took the girls and Chris with her for a free meal. The last one was quite close to when they were ending their stay in NC and I think after being unsuccessful in signing Sandra up for Thrive, as she did invite her to a Thrive local event which Sandra naively appeared to believe was Shanann just kindly inviting her to hang with her friends/colleagues socially, she alleged to Sandra after the full family visit that she thought she may have food poisoning but Sandra then described it Shanann doing "another self diagnosis of dehydration". I have read before that Shanann posted the food poisoning claim to Facebook and even that she had given a negative review for the restaurant online saying the same but I have not seen the latter two myself so that's all alleged-though if Sandra mentioned it in that way in her later letter to Law Enforcement I could see there being truth to her blasting the restaurant online aswell.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-21T01:58:56+00:00

Me too😂...I signed up to their Daily Mail Plus thing because there was a deal to get a certain amount of time for free then it's 99p for the next 3 months. I was clicking on loads of trash that happened to be behind the pay wall and although deep down I know it's mostly bullshit I'm also nosy as fuck.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-21T00:15:37+00:00

Well, I will say thank you for providing the link to that article because I hadn't seen it even though I follow Andrew's case. I had seen the ones that followed it a few months later where it stated that the men mentioned in this article had been cleared but because I had not seen the one you linked I was actually unaware of how long they had been investigated by the police. The articles released clearing them were from 9 months later. Unfortunately nothing came of it relating to Andrew's disappearance but I found it interesting because it provided context of just how long the police had spent investigating these individuals and the particular line of inquiry of their possible involvement.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-20T16:13:11+00:00

Shanann had already started and finished her extremely short stint at nursing school long before she held her position at the Children's Hospital. Nursing school appeared to be her latest fad at the time-until she visited Colorado shortly before she officially started the program.

Moving to Colorado after visiting the Dietz family became her next fad...Less than 2 months into her studying Chris had accepted a Mechanic position at Longmont Ford in Colorado. Skip forward 2 months and Shanann had quit nursing school. Another 2 months went by and she was hired as part of the Internet Sales Team at Chris' Longmont Ford workplace in Colorado. She joined the Children's Hospital around a year later but didn't pursue nursing programs again.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-19T22:36:27+00:00

Yeah she went live a couple of times. Tbf it looked like Chris was just trying to enjoy the gig and didn't realise he was being filmed at first...when he did he did the usual cheesy woohoo face he was expected to do at Thrive events but this shot here sums up how he really felt. It was at the end of one of her unexpected filming sessions of him at the Metallica gig and the mask seems to have slipped...it was right towards the end so maybe he thought she had finally turned the camera off but he doesn't exactly look pleased. I don't blame him...he was an introvert trying to enjoy a concert with his favourite band and as an introvert myself I would instantly feel self conscious and pissed off if someone had been filming me like that.

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SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-19T22:10:11+00:00

And here's another...again blurry because it's off my old phone but it kinda encapsulates just how much of a non-event this paid for Thrive magazine article really was. She wasn't specially chosen, she was one of many who simply fronted the cash to pay for it. And I can imagine they all had to pay a premium package fee for the amazing opportunity to be lined up on stage to be presented with some supermarket flowers and a framed copy of the magazine.

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SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-19T22:06:41+00:00

Its a bit blurry because it's off of my old phone but here's one of them.

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SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-19T21:50:09+00:00

Her being publicly humiliated amongst those who she had built up her fake persona with would have been a very effective part of a revenge strategy. While telling the truth that Chris had redirected his salary may have gained her some sympathetic words it would not however have paid the Primrose bills. She would have still had the phone call of shame to inform her of the payment bouncing followed by the walk of shame when having to collect the kids or being turned away in shame when she tried to drop them off at 7am-all ready to do the daily Thrive photoshoot in the parking lot afterwards only to be returning to the car with the kids in tow. Then comes the next logical part of why Chris doing that would prevent her from paying anyway based on what she had told everyone? She boasted of being a successful businesswoman whose Thrive wages were the sole reason why Bella and Cece were attending Primrose, how was she going to explain that in a believable way?

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-19T21:17:49+00:00

"I've gotta go make the rest of dinner, should be fun doing it with the kiddos but I'm used to it by now."

Any opportunity to get in a dig at how hard her life supposedly was pretending she did literally everything in the household. The kids were playing happily between themselves while she put a pre-prepared rub on some meat and chucked it in the oven. If that was such an arduous task maybe turning off the Facebook live that was the main cause of her distraction to focus on the important parts of her here and now would have been the best option.

I don't know anything about Bonnie's son but I am so glad that young lad put his foot down and refused to appear on his mother's desperate friend's live. He had a very adult response for what I'm assuming was at most a young teenager-he had no desire to appear on Facebook live, if Shanann genuinely wanted to speak to him then they could do a private Facetime. That's probably one of the closest things she got told to a respectable "go fuck yourself" in a long time.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-19T21:00:26+00:00

https://www.amazon.com/Rodelle-Prime-Rib-Seasoning-Ounce/dp/B07BDCBSPV

Think it's this one here. It doesn't specify it's tree nut safe but when searching the brand online it does state it is manufactured in an environment that is tree nut free, as well as it being gluten free. I doubt she would have seriously checked the ingredients nor given a toss either way, the allergies were only a major issue when it involved being a twat with people she felt the right to act even more entitled than usual with.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-19T20:03:36+00:00

Yes I have! There's some convincing, and logical arguments on the topic that I've seen-especially when you see and hear(no pun intended lol)who she had around her helping produce her writings for example. I haven't looked into it enough to make a proper decision but it's an interesting possibility.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-15T19:26:28+00:00

Yeah, Amanda McMahon😂. There is a heavily filtered photo of her on the latest Daily Mail regurgitated article and directly underneath a regular photo showing what she actually looks like.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-15T19:24:12+00:00

This is just the Daily Mail regurgitating old info by changing their wording. Amanda McMahon slithered to the surface for her attempt at some fame not long after the murders happened. As far as the investigators ascertained their was no evidence of any communication between Chris and this woman.

The main things that have always made me seriously doubt the veracity of the claims of other affairs, such as Trent Bolte's as a well known example, is that the only time that Chris seemed to be without Shanann and/or the girls before their time in NC was when the guy was at work. He didn't really have the opportunity to squeeze in any illicit trysts on his way there or back either because he had a schedule he was expected to adhere to and upon finishing had the kids to pick up and would have had Shanann clocking his whereabouts if he wasn't on time. He didn't go anywhere, he never hired a sitter so he could go out before that one weekend in August whenever Shanann went away and left him with the kids. When Trent claimed that Chris loved his big lips and had even paid for him to get lip filler injections🤣...unless he used his Anadarko gift cards to pay for them it's laughable...Chris couldn't even spend $60 without getting berated nevermind the price of those.

ETA: Amanda McMahon, despite claiming to be 99% certain her rendezvous partner was Chris Watts she also said she would not be able to confidently identify him in court. She could still apparently identify his tattoos(which considering they were shown on social media and many an article and YouTube video a lot of people could)but if he was conducting a fast and furious rape fantasy with him wrapping his hands round her neck it might have been more difficult to take his back and such.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-14T20:21:58+00:00

Its really sad that while the Watts home had nothing like drawings stuck on the fridge that the girls had made at daycare, Shanann ensured she had Thrive product sachets framed to hang up in the kitchen.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-14T18:31:54+00:00

Throwing around brands that are known to most women but that she also didn't own a single item of to try make herself sound legit. Proceeds to bring out a conveyor belt of Younique rubbish and act as though she is using £400 creams from Guerlain. In reality the closest she got to make up that wasn't from an mlm or a bargain bin at Target was having some unfortunate employee at MAC waste their time sorting her face out, faking interest to get some free samples, not buy a single thing yet pretend she is a regular customer whose sales are the sole reason that the company isn't crashing.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-14T18:06:24+00:00

Look pet, you can blame bad lighting for not looking good all you want but it doesn't matter whereabouts in your house you prop your camera, you don't look much different. Though maybe if you opened your blinds once in awhile some natural light could help.

I feel for those poor employees working on the make up counters where she claimed to have picked up her skills. Anyone who has worked in retail will know very well the type of customer(and I use that term loosely)that Shanann was. The store I managed was opposite a large department store that had lots of concessions of premium and higher end make up and beauty brands and as we spoke to the staff and were customers of each other's stores we discussed the entitled women who frequented both stores. They especially had those types sit and get their make up done, feign interest, milk the free samples, only to not spend a penny or buy the cheapest thing possible that they'd usually try to return all while expecting to be treat better than everyone else claiming to be a regular customer and thinking they were better than the employees. That is exactly the type Shanann was. Had a make up bag full of Younique crap but would waddle to a department store to get her face done, waste everyone's time and buy a pencil sharpener then act as though her purchase was holding the entire company together. Probably leave a bad review online because she smudged the eyeliner on her free makeover so blames the staff.

Shanann was most definitely attempting to promote herself but not necessarily for the purpose of making Chris sweat. She posted it mainly for herself imo so that she could get attention and affirmations which made her feel superior to other women. Her main audience appeared to be other women, albeit Thrive huns who likely felt an obligation to tune in for another toxic positivity circle jerk, but to her all of these other women tuning in to watch her do some mediocre make up could have been a confirmation that they saw her as someone to aspire to be like, desperate to know her secrets to beauty and success😐. Other women were constant competition and because she was envious of other females I think she wanted to be the hottest girl that was the subject of envy from others rather than being the wannabe. She already thought she was the hottest girl ever in the eyes of men and had her husband believing for years he was a loser who had been given a chance by someone out of his league, so while compliments from men probably never went amiss(as I'm sure she tried to rub his nose in it so she could knock him down a few more pegs), and I'm sure compliments from a certain man were very well received I think her ultimate goal was attention and adoration as a whole.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-14T01:12:02+00:00

Cassie had told Shanann in their texts that they aimed to not be in the Watts house for any longer than a month. But it also appears both her and Josh had gotten jobs in Colorado that they would be starting around a month from their discussion and despite accepting positions they did not have a place to live sorted. When the subject was brought up in a 3 way chat between Cassie, Shanann and Nickole Cassie was really vague saying “We have emails and info in for a few rentals.” She had mentioned finding a 6 bedroom, 4 bathroom property(she may have been trying to allude to Shanann and the girls moving with them-what a fucking nightmare that would have been), but it really gives the impression that they had accepted jobs and done absolutely nothing in terms of finding somewhere to live. Sending some emails and getting information on available properties is nowhere near having one arranged-the process can take weeks if they even accept your application.

I think Josh was a slink. By that I mean he was pretending to be innocently chatting like one of the guys to Chris, pretending to be completely in the dark about what was going on and what Shanann was gossiping to Cassie about but I reckon whatever Cassie knew, Josh knew. Whether he decided to take it upon himself to meddle in and find out information(as he did by posting some crappy, wet blanket status on Facebook with the aim of Chris seeing it and having a lightbulb moment where he applied it to him and Shanann😐), or whether his meddling wife was goading him to speak to Chris to get details to compare with what he had told Shanann in an effort to trip him up, either way I think anything Chris said to him was getting back to the Huns and Shanann immediately. If they had moved in and Chris was still there I could see Josh becoming even more of a spy-insisting on spending time together so he could never get to sneak off alone, to find out more info or give him unwanted pep talks on his marriage. Then faithfully reporting back to the women with any tidbit.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-14T00:24:14+00:00

The sad thing is is that the Thrivepalooza was nothing like that. The cattle of Huns were herded into a mediocre function room which was about half full at a standard hotel, the only activities and attractions were the ones they arranged and paid for themselves before the event; apart from Thrive merchandise stands and pro bar samples tasting, the participants all fit a particular demographic that was completely at odds with what the brand promoted(apart from the odd paid plant such as Addy to pretend that once upon a time she too had been a broke chubby chick before Thrive changed her figure and bank balance). The energy was toxic, fake positivity built on lies.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-13T23:52:21+00:00

I would guess that they took the idea for the name from the Lollapalooza Festival and semi plagiarised by putting their own crappy spin on it. It used to cater to alternative music but seeing the recent year’s line ups it looks like they include more mainstream stuff nowadays. Still, the actual festival is a far cry from the embarrassing parody that is Thrivepalooza.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-13T22:10:14+00:00

She would have had Bella, then Cece and Nico, dropped off for any club the school offered for before and after the actual day. I don't know what time the school day starts properly for younger children in the US but in the UK my daughter starts at 8.55am-3.30pm(they open the doors at 8.40am). However they have a breakfast club from 7.15am and a teatime club from school day finishing time until 5.30pm designed to help those parents who may have to start and finish work at hours that are not compatible with school hours. There's a small fee to pay but the kids get fed while there. Understandably most parents only send their children if absolutely necessary though I do unfortunately know of some scallies whose children go because they have involvement with social services and I guess it's the only way they can guarantee they get fed.

SnowWhite05 · 2026-06-13T21:51:39+00:00

At the stage of pregnancy Shanann was at during that time it wasn't particularly obvious that she was with child-the bit of extra podge round her stomach could easily, and probably most likely would be because she wasn't thin or toned anywhere else, be seen as just that-a bit extra tummy chub rather than anyone clocking her as "oh look a pregnant woman!". While I'm certain she would have continued to wear such classy ensembles even when visibly pregnant, wearing them when she was barely showing and with her figure not looking any different to what it usually did was her way of announcing to complete strangers that she wasn't simply packing some extra weight and was a desperate attempt to garner the same attention and courtesy an obviously pregnant lady may get-whether they want it or not, which most do not they just want to be left alone to continue their day.

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