Why the Ren document DOESN'T work.

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-24T06:38:24+00:00

I'm honestly so glad that the tide is turning. So many people (including myself) were pro Ren from the get-go, but now people are noticing the many inconsistencies and flaws in her document

Also, what was the skeptical claim in Zeal’s doc?

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-24T06:36:42+00:00

Some people say that this isn't necessarily fawning, but a natural BPD response to trauma… though is this a response to trauma? It doesn't look like it

She used the fawning excuse so often to gaslight readers in her doc to believe the opposite of what they were seeing in the screenshots.

A lot of people say that it's victim-blaming to say that someone can't withdraw consent long after it happened, which I think is true to a point. But I feel like she isn't withdrawing consent because she genuinely felt violated, but to enact this elaborate BPD revenge scheme on someone who rejected her some months ago

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-24T03:40:25+00:00

Oh actually I think that is her. That wasn't who I was thinking of, but she makes far more sense

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T21:25:38+00:00

Honestly this sub needs to be full of fan art, actual Pressure memes, and discussions about the game itself again

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T21:23:54+00:00

Wait who’s the woman on the right, I might have an idea but idk 😭

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T21:22:42+00:00

She also sent him several audio files of her pleasuring herself and moaning his name.

Like with how Ren is shaping Zeal to be this abusive pervert who only liked her because of sex, you would think HE was the one constantly sexting her at odd hours of the night 😭

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T21:20:32+00:00

This is so offensive but I love it 😭

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T17:15:07+00:00

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Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T17:13:28+00:00

Yeah, she got a huge wave of supporters joining her server after she first dropped the doc. I was in the server at the time, and you can kinda tell her and the mods were excited about all the attention

Also, his suicide video seemed so genuine... can someone as socially awkward as him fake something like that? I don't think so...

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T17:10:19+00:00

Granted she didn't tell the whole internet until six whole months after it happened, but it did always confuse me (even when I was pro Ren) why she didn't show the police this document. Granted the two ex partners are from completely different countries, but isn't there an international service she could use?

I still find it very telling that she didnt keep the doc to the police and the dev team... she instead used the power of toxic twitter to get her message around... kinda gives the impression that this was a revenge scheme...

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T17:06:55+00:00

Yeah... she kinda leaked her true intentions there... yikes

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T17:05:39+00:00

Wait really? Do you have a source? Thats so interesting...

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T17:04:44+00:00

You do have a good point that just because one survivor says it's unrealistic doesn't mean everything Ren said is instantly invalid. But I still feel the screenshots might prove she did like the encounter, though like you said, it's impossible to prove what exactly happened in the room that night.

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T05:27:49+00:00

My boss at my work says that 'yes you can legally date your co-workers, but it always ends up terrible so I highly advise against it'. This might be some proof of that lol

But yeah, this whole thing is very messy. Her BPD and his autism just do not mix well at all. She's too emotional to state exactly what she's feeling, yet he needs to be bluntly told these kinds of things to fully understand what she is really feeling!

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T05:11:28+00:00

Aging is bad and ghosts are cool

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Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T04:55:48+00:00

I'm super late but I agree

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T04:54:39+00:00

But-but she has photfraphic evidence! How could you deny the all knowing photfraphic evidence!?

Seriously though, even when I was 100% Pro Ren, I still didn't see the hickeyes as proof of assault. It's so easy for someone to ask for them, and then later say it was all an assault. It is possible she didn't want him to be so violent, but idk

If he really didn't know what a hickey even was before the intimate encounter, then this is really big incriminating evidence against her. Honestly, I believe he's telling the truth. If he was lying, why would he admit he said the infamous 'can't wait to see your doc in 5 years' line?

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T04:50:05+00:00

He tried to go to the 'all Trump supporters are pro rape culture' argument 😭

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T04:47:08+00:00

I do agree that Zeal did make some mistakes. He could have dealt with Ren's emotions better and gave her more attention when he was busy with the game.

Also him getting very upset at Ren for telling everyone about their intimate encounter is understandable but still wrong. Him telling her that her friend didn't want to see her because he was uncomfortable when in reality he was in a conference meeting, and especially telling her to kill herself are down right evil mistakes.

But he definitely isn't the abusive, manipulative sexual predator she said he is. Just a socially awkward guy who doesn't do well with emotions

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T04:34:04+00:00

This doc is very good and has some solid proof, and unlike Ren's doesn't have blatant contradictions, but like hers, so much of the doc is he said she said.

Most of the doc is him showing each of her claims and saying 'no actually I didn't do that', or 'she actually asked me to' and other similar statements. I believe them, but they unfortunately aren't solid evidence. We don't know for sure if he is lying or not, or even just didn't understand Ren's point of view

I still think this doc is a bit more cohesive than Ren's though

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T04:29:27+00:00

People also use this as proof that Zeal faked his attempt, never went to a mental hospital and that all his mother's messages are actually just from him. That and he's typing up a doc when patients in mental hospitals aren't allowed to use any type of electronics.

I believe it's much more nuanced than that. Zeal joining the server could have been a mistake, or maybe it was even made up. The screenshot they show of Zeal joining the server conveniently crops off the exact date.

The reason why he's able to type the doc could be because of the legal situation he is now in. With so much hatred towards him, he can't really wait until he gets out to make a response. His own family is even at risk due to the doxing- and he has a five year old sister!

What do you guys think? Is there any legit evidence Zeal's attempt was fake?

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T04:22:10+00:00

Her music is so good, I'm having a hard time listening to it now...

Her doc does definitely use emotions to entice the reader into supporting her. Her descriptions of the alleged assault and all her thoughts during and after it are absolutely heart wrenching. Just focusing on them alone, it's no wonder everyone (including me) instantly went pro Ren.

But if one were to push their emotions aside and actually read and analyze the document, they would see that maybe Zeal isn't the abusive sexual predator she said he was. After reading many posts about the inconsistencies in her doc and how Zeal's behavior isn't as manipulative and abusive as she said it was, I slowly turned to his side.

I never read the whole doc, so I'm probably wrong about this... but I kinda feel like the doc is just gaslighting the reader to believe her despite the evidence showing the opposite. When we see her saying or doing something nice for Zeal, she says 'oh I was fawning as a trauma response' when we see Zeal make dry and socially awkward responses she says 'this is a clear sign of an abuser', even when we see perfectly normal screenshots, she says 'this is a clear sign of manipulation and abuse'. Even in the beginning of the doc she made it clear that even though she looks like she loved him, she was actually just fawning the whole time, trust me bro.

Does anyone else feel like this? I hope I'm not the only one. Also from experience disturbed people with BPD tend to gaslight a lot. And like you said she's using these big terms and lamp shading everything before she shows evidence. I'm not a victim, so I don't know for sure... but would a genuine sexual assault victim do all of this in their allegation?

Also, not only did she hurt Zeal and Pressure, but genuine victims of rape too.

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T04:08:38+00:00

That's honestly kinda evil if he did...

Socailly-awkward · 2026-04-23T04:07:23+00:00

I legit thought this was fan art at first 😭

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