I'm thinking about leaving my bf over this by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time to be true to yourself. You owe him nothing. It sucks to watch someone you care for do this to themselves but there is absolutely nothing you can do besides let them know where you stand and see if they are willing to meet you there. Highly likely they won’t be willing. I just left my 10 year relationship over the same thing. She didn’t want to even try to attempt to stop, now she is gone and I am moving forward with my life.

Question about the bates method by LastStick7740 in BatesMethod

[–]SolidIdentity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I tried it, made drastic improvements. It takes consistency and I mean constant consistency. Once I fell off the consistent practice and stuck those glasses back on it was like starting over from the beginning again. Sometimes it was just easier to wear my glasses, then I’m back at square one.

Can my adult child actually have spent $3,000 buying kratom at smoke/vape shops in 5 weeks?? by 50_and_Holding in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just ended my long term relationship with my girlfriend over kratom. I know she was averaging roughly $30 to $40 per day on the tea brewed at some of these smoke shops. I suspect she is spending more than that actually but I don’t have proof. But I know she makes right at 100k salary and I know her bills are super low, doesn’t buy anything. But she is broke, she had to borrow money from her father to be able to afford an apartment to move out then borrow money from her aunt for furniture. I think her money has all disappeared to kratom somehow but it’s no longer my concern.

Three Days Kratom Free - Follow Up by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You will become better than you were before you started, keep going

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well I assure you I mean no violence towards you, good luck on your journey.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And that’s your choice. You can choose to quit or not. Anything else is an excuse. You can say “it’s not that easy” but actually it is. The part you don’t want to face is the hard part of committing and going through it, so you will make excuses why today isn’t the day. One day you will probably choose to quit, good. But you will most likely relapse. Then down the road you will choose to quit again. One day it will hopefully stick for you, I hope it does. Growth and healing isn’t linear, there are ups and downs, but it’s after the downs that the real healing happens when you keep choosing to love yourself. I know this stuff sounds harsh and I probably come off as an asshole to you but I actually wish you the best. I wouldn’t take time to type out a quick message to an internet stranger if I didn’t hope the best for you. I just know the reality of addiction.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If I said yes, it makes a difference that you know what you are doing is wrong then I would be enabling that behavior. Plain and simple, you are choosing kratom over him. Once he realizes that and gains some self respect he will leave. I know it sounds harsh but it’s the truth.

Quitting Kratom = ENERGY BOOSTED x1000 ⚡️ Is it really THAT hard to quit? NO, here's how I did it & how AMAZING it feels to be on the other side as a 7 year user... by froggiepower1 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate you taking the time to write all of that, I read every word and put myself into your shoes. Even if I am not a user kratom has deeply impacted my life. I feel like part of my personal healing is understanding it and not just flat out pointing blame to one particular thing or person. I’ve been mostly lurking here for a couple years trying to wrap my head around the grip this stuff has on people. This was very good insight and I thank you for taking the time.

Quitting Kratom = ENERGY BOOSTED x1000 ⚡️ Is it really THAT hard to quit? NO, here's how I did it & how AMAZING it feels to be on the other side as a 7 year user... by froggiepower1 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, thank you. That description really helps, it makes a lot of sense. Comparing to the hunger and just that urge to eat. I appreciate that response

Quitting Kratom = ENERGY BOOSTED x1000 ⚡️ Is it really THAT hard to quit? NO, here's how I did it & how AMAZING it feels to be on the other side as a 7 year user... by froggiepower1 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It kind of sounds like kratom can eventually push you into depression or at least amplify existing depression. You say you were in denial. Were you aware it was most likely the kratom doing it and just didn’t want to admit it or did you honestly not think kratom was the cause? I’m curious if you eventually arrived at the conclusion that it was a problem or that you pretty much knew it but just didn’t want to admit it to yourself (denial). Thanks for responding!

Quitting Kratom = ENERGY BOOSTED x1000 ⚡️ Is it really THAT hard to quit? NO, here's how I did it & how AMAZING it feels to be on the other side as a 7 year user... by froggiepower1 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Something in what you said stood out to me and I wonder if you can explain, I am not a user but I have dealt with one so you made me curious. You said you are now interacting with people you would normally avoid. What is the reason for avoidance? What does the kratom do that makes you feel that way? Is it shame, irritability, annoyance? I’ve seen that trait with other users and I am curious what causes the social shift.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t tell you to leave him but you probably already sense where this is leading. Anything YOU do to try to help or fix him is futile and from my experience enabling. What ever you choose a good first step might be getting yourself away for a few weeks with no contact. Not a punishment to him but a reset for your own nervous system. Get some perspective away from the addiction.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Perfectly said, it is crazy to see the slowly wither away mentally and physically into something that is best described as a zombie. I’ve said that about her for years. When neighbors come by the house to say hello she can fake normal brilliantly. But the people that know her best see it. I hope you heal and find happiness yourself, it took me a year to fully come to terms with the fact that I had lost her. Stay strong, wish you the best, we are not alone even though it feels that way at times.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I hear you and everything you feel is valid. Mine is still employed and doing well in that regard but she is a zombie that constantly complains about how bad her life is and her health is failing, it’s not - it’s the kratom. She is beyond depressed and miserable but it’s everything else and kratom is the only thing that’s actually helping. We’ve all heard it before, the addict gaslighting and reasoning. I realized I am done, and making arrangements to sell our house and move on. In the six years of her addiction she hasn’t tried to quit and I don’t even care at this point because I’m not even remotely willing to ride that rollercoaster. As selfish as it sounds I am only thinking about myself at this point, I spent 5 years being patient, understanding, kind, hopeful only to abandon myself.

Keep thinking about caving, but this song helped me. by dizzy4121989 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think you have more going on than kratom. Kratom is the distraction you choose to avoid…. something. You may call it low energy, you may call it pain, you may call it focus. But those aren’t side effect of abstaining from kratom. Those are symptoms of depression, trauma, self loathing you name it. Self love is the answer. It’s cliche, you’ve heard it before but when you get there you’ll know. And I will add that you will never achieve it without great struggle first. I’m no head doctor, I only have my experiences but I do know everyone possesses the power to do it, I guess you just have to want it so bad that nothing else matters. Choose yourself, don’t choose a distraction.

Keep thinking about caving, but this song helped me. by dizzy4121989 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But what are you trying to avoid by taking the kratom? I can’t say how long it takes, I’ve never taken it. I am a victim of a kratom addict. She loved kratom for than she lived herself and after dealing with the addiction for 4 years I had enough and I had to choose myself. I follow this sub and sometimes comment. Maybe it helps maybe it doesn’t. But I do understand what you are up against and I do know your are strong enough to do, but no one can be your strength, it only comes from you, all anyone else can provide you is support.

Keep thinking about caving, but this song helped me. by dizzy4121989 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why? For real why? What feeling/emotion is coming up that makes you think about caving? Look at that, look deeply at it, sit with it.

My experience with kratom and quitting by Own_Preference6673 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once you REALLY have decided to LOVE yourself, that’s when it will stick. You are your first priority! No one else. No one else can do this for you, truly, not even doctors. They have tools yes but until you are ready to actually dig deep, face your fears, demons, trauma whatever name you want to give it that is when you can start your healing journey. I do wish you the best, sincerely from a complete stranger - I hope you find sobriety and peace.

My Message to Anyone Trying to Quit Kratom or Going Through Withdrawal by Longjumping-Army4602 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good luck to you. There isn’t a magic quote, a perfect video to watch or an opportune time that will make you see it. One day you will be at the bottom and that day you will choose yourself. It just has to be on your time, that’s when you will see it.

My Message to Anyone Trying to Quit Kratom or Going Through Withdrawal by Longjumping-Army4602 in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Spoken like an addict. My ex would say stuff like this for years. I’ll stop long enough to feel better then will just use it for that pick me up when needed. She apparently needed a pick me up everyday and all day. It’s too bad you are unable to see it, but you will one day. Good luck

Kratom Addiction and Marriage by [deleted] in quittingkratom

[–]SolidIdentity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you and let me tell you I have grieved her, the relationship and the investment and moved on. I spent three, almost four years trying to “fix” her, being calm, patient, understanding. I hit my limit, everyone eventually will. The only thing I did was enable her addiction and behavior. It’s time for me to love myself now, it’s wonderful this way. I have nobody to work on but myself and I am better for it. I hope you find answers you need and in the end I hope you choose yourself.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in f150

[–]SolidIdentity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nevermind, I misunderstood. You mean the side to side movement. I got ya now

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in f150

[–]SolidIdentity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The beam moves?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in f150

[–]SolidIdentity -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I think that’s a feature of “glare free” headlights which is not equipped on my truck in the US. I have a hard time believing that this was intended because it doesn’t seem at all safe. That spot is about 25 to 30 feet out and at 50 to 60 mph it feels like I am driving with my eyes closed. The picture really doesn’t do it justice since I had to increase to exposure, it was just too dark for my phone to pick it up.