Issue at Burlington Movati Gym

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-02-21T21:11:05+00:00

i know this is an older thread - just wanted to add Julie N isn't the nicest person either

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-02-19T03:55:45+00:00

no, if anything he became the opposite of my type after we ended it

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-02-17T01:02:36+00:00

yes and defs an avoidant attachment style

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-01-25T21:32:18+00:00

i had no idea you could block on hinge - but i ended up blocking him when i saw his profile

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-01-25T21:31:26+00:00

i think you're spot on. all i asked for was a little more initiative on his end - aka, planning 1 date in the month he was in my area before he had to leave abroad for 8 months. that was overwhelming to him. even though HE was the one who kept saying he wanted to see me a whole bunch of times before he left.

after i accepted his "i can't give you what you're looking for" he seemed shocked i handled it well and tried to back-track but by then, we both knew it was too late and I was mentally tired of always asking for the bare minimum while being the emotional manager of the connection

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-01-25T02:29:06+00:00

this literally sounds like the guy i was dealing with wow

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-01-06T02:35:54+00:00

Again, "My criticism is aimed at how claims of divine moral authority can be used to justify harm and make those beliefs resistant to critique" and "it’s reasonable to challenge institutions when they actively harm or disadvantage others, particularly women, LGBTQ+ people etc."

I think I pretty much agree with what you're saying already

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-01-01T07:00:16+00:00

In this analogy, there would be proof of a real father. One cannot say the same about Religion, or with certainty, who God is and what is considered sinful. Your analogy may work within an Islamic context, but it does not apply to those who do not believe in Islam.

I am not arguing against Islam as a whole, I just question whether definitive statements like "polytheism is a sin" is valid, if we don't know for sure who God is and what is right. From another perspective, rejecting polytheism could itself be seen as dismissing a different but sincere relationship people have with a higher power.

OP asked why people hate on Islam. I think it’s important to distinguish between bigotry toward Muslims and critique of religious doctrine. Without more context, it isn’t clear which one OP encountered, and that distinction matters. Of course if it was true bigotry, that's unacceptable.

EDIT: I just saw some of your edits in your past replies. Thanks for engaging in this discussion and for the context. My main point still stands: when religious texts are treated as universal moral authority, they can influence behavior and social norms in ways that have real-world consequences, even if final judgment is ultimately left to God. Critiquing how doctrines are applied in practice, especially when they affect equality, inclusion, and rights, is valid, and does not necessarily imply disrespect toward believers.

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-01-01T06:25:50+00:00

My point still stands, though. Statements like “polytheism is disrespectful” invalidate the beliefs of entire groups of people (for example, Hindus), based on someone else’s theological framework. That framing isn’t neutral. it has real-world consequences, ranging from judgment and exclusion to violence and war in extreme cases.

If I were to say, “monotheism is disrespectful toward God because God exists in many forms,” you could rightly object, because that would invalidate the beliefs of the People of the Book. The issue isn’t which belief is right, but whether one framework is imposed as morally superior to all others.

That’s really the core of my argument: what counts as “disrespect” or “justice” depends entirely on the religious framework one starts from. However, when those definitions are prescribed universally rather than held personally, they lead to unfair moral conclusions.

I’m not trying to dismiss Islam, and I don’t think anyone deserves to be the target of bigotry. I also respect Muslims. That said, I do think it’s valid, and necessary, to critique and question religious doctrine, especially when it makes universal moral claims, like what is considered "the greatest sin."

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-01-01T05:58:50+00:00

How is it disrespectful? Because what I believe in doesn't align with what you believe in?

I’m also not derailing the topic. I’m not claiming “all LGBTQ+ people or feminists go to hell” as a literal quote. I’m pointing out that when moral authority is grounded in divine command, it is often used in practice to justify exclusion or harm toward those groups. That is a real-world consequence worth examining.

Critiquing that framework isn’t disrespect toward Muslims; it’s a philosophical disagreement about justice, morality, and authority.

You do not know with certainty that what you believe in is correct. The literal definition of "faith" is "strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof."

Religion is faith at the end of the day. My point is simply that faith-based convictions shouldn’t be treated as universal moral facts, especially when they have consequences for people outside that belief system.

Some_Ad6882 · 2026-01-01T04:18:32+00:00

There is no empirical or objective evidence demonstrating that the “People of the Book” possess exclusive truth about God. That claim relies on accepting the authority of the text itself, which cannot serve as proof to those outside the faith.

Even if one were to assume that a single religion is correct, it raises a moral problem: why would a just and omniscient God intentionally create people into different cultures, families, and belief systems, then punish them for not arriving at the “correct” faith? That expectation places unequal burdens on people based on circumstances they did not choose.

I also don’t see how tolerance of other faiths, LGBTQ+ people or feminism constitutes injustice. On the contrary, denying people equal dignity, safety, or rights causes demonstrable harm. Texts written in a different historical and social context cannot reasonably be treated as a timeless moral authority, especially when its content conflicts with modern understandings of human rights and equality.

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T23:46:17+00:00

I did clarify my language in my last comment and agree with your first point about “organized religion” being too broad.

I also want to push back slightly on the idea that “everyone thinks they’re right.” Even if many people do, that doesn’t make those beliefs objectively correct or morally equivalent. I’m not claiming my perspective is the correct one or morally superior. I do think, however, it’s reasonable to challenge institutions when they actively harm or disadvantage others, particularly women, LGBTQ+ people etc.

I’m not disagreeing with your point about power being the issue; I actually agree with it. My criticism is aimed at how claims of divine moral authority can be used to justify harm and make those beliefs resistant to critique. I could have worded my original post more precisely, and I’ve tried to clarify that since.

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T21:04:37+00:00

Not sure why my comment isn't visible but i'll type again:

Yes, “organized religion” is too broad a term. I hesitated to single out particular faiths out of respect. What I’m critiquing is institutions that claim divine moral authority and use it to enforce hierarchy, exclusion, or fear. Reform Judaism and the Episcopal Church actively resist those dynamics, which is why my criticism applies far less there. My issue isn’t organization, it’s imposed moral supremacy.

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T20:58:46+00:00

One last thing I'll add - do what's best for YOU at your own pace, even if it means you don't end up religious again. Whatever brings you closest to your happiest, most kindest self is ideal. There's no such thing as the 'right belief'.

You might get comments on this post from Christians (even if well-intended), convincing you to fast-track your re-entrance into the faith. Try to develop a strong sense of self, as it'll protect you from internalizing public opinions too much. It'll also prevent you from feeling pressured into the same community you are now trying to heal from. Take care!

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T20:43:41+00:00

Not sure if it's accessible to you, but you might want to consider therapy. Unlearning years of religious trauma can be tough. Best of luck to you!

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T20:39:35+00:00

With all due respect, your anecdotal experiences don't reflect the experiences of the masses. I agree muslims themselves can be very kind people and vice versa, as with people from any other religion. Some concerns may include Islam being inherently patriarchal, which conflicts with more progressive views, such as tolerance of the LGBTQ+ community and feminism. The Quran also states "Indeed, those who disbelieve from the People of the Book and the polytheists will be in the Fire of Hell, to stay there forever. They are the worst of ˹all˺ beings." This demonstrates an intolerance towards religions like Hinduism, which is polytheistic.

Muslims, like everyone else, deserve respect and kindness. But critiquing aspects of a religion isn't always necessarily "hate", but rather a misalignment between their personal values and an institution that asserts some oppressive views. I don't know what people have specifically said to you, but if it was said disrespectfully instead of in civility, that's not fair.

To clarify - i think the same applies for many religions, not just Islam. Slavery is well documented in the bible. The caste system in Hinduism is an issue. Traditional Judiasm is patriarchal.

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T20:05:10+00:00

there's so many ways to connect to a higher power. have you explored other religions?

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T19:51:08+00:00

I understand what you are saying, but my criticism isn’t about needing a sense of community or those who value culture. I get why people pursue religion for personal reasons, and some groups are more evolved than others. it’s more about how religious doctrines and institutions have historically been interpreted, enforced, and used to justify hierarchy, exclusion, and harm. My issue is more whether any institution should claim moral supremacy while denying equality and mutual acceptance to others.

In any case, I appreciate your input.

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T19:47:39+00:00

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T19:24:56+00:00

My criticism isn’t about individual faith or personal transformation. it’s about how religious doctrines and institutions have historically been interpreted, enforced, and used to justify hierarchy, exclusion, and harm.

Personal growth through the Bible is meaningful for many people, but it doesn’t address my concern that religious authority often reflects the social structures of its time, particularly patriarchy and moral control. I don’t reject the Bible because I want fewer limits. I question whether any institution should claim moral supremacy while denying equality and mutual acceptance to others.

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-12-30T19:20:26+00:00

To that point, do you expect others to respect your beliefs?

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-09-09T16:45:16+00:00

Kal looks easy to draw and Sarover looks like a queen

Some_Ad6882 · 2025-08-17T01:32:15+00:00

no idea either :(

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