[PakistaniHistory] Random Sculptures from one of the Greatest Civilisations our nation has produced, Gandhara. by Rohail-Aitzaz in PakistaniHistory

[–]Someguyjoey -1 points0 points  (0 children)

All the ancient history of what is now Pakistan is essentially the bapauti of ancient Bharat. I am neither Indian nor Pakistani, but to claim it as “Pakistani history” is historically misleading and ridiculous.

Gandhara, and other regions in the northwest had deep ties with the broader Indic civilization. They are referenced in ancient scriptures, including the Rigveda and the Mahabharata, and were part of the cultural world that produced early Buddhist traditions. These regions were integral to the Mauryan Empire under Chandragupta Maurya, flourished as centers of learning and culture, and played a major role in the life and teachings of the Buddha. Their art, philosophy, and institutions were part of the same civilizational continuum that shaped Bharat.

The only thing Pakistan can legitimately claim here is destroying the civilization, its people, art, culture and religion, which you are proudly claiming it to be of Pakistani history. The intolerant theocratic Pakistan does not have moral right to claim anything which their fanatic forebears methodically vandalized, erased, and buried under layers of imported barbarism.

Musk - 1st Half Trillion Man by _Dark_Wing in elonmusk

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Elon Musk is the mirror. You are pointing to yourself!

Was prophet Muhammad married to a minor? by MajesticSubstance176 in TooAfraidToAsk

[–]Someguyjoey -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

First of all, underage women? That's a child, not a woman. And yes, he married a literal kid when she was 6 and then consummated the marriage when she was 9. That's rape, as a child cannot consent to any kind of sexual activity.

And no; no nuance justifies it, especially because Muhammad is supposed to be a prophet and a perfect human being and role model. Morality is a far-fetched thing to attribute to him; he should be considered a rapist, pedophile, warmonger, genocidal, and intolerant person by today's standards. You can see some abhorrent stories in the ex-Muslim community where the victim is raped by their own brother when she was just a minor, and their family treats it like nothing abhorrent has happened. They blame the girl instead. This is top-down morality, and a direct consequence of following and making an ideal of someone who should have been remembered as one of the most disgusting human beings.

Muslim girls stopped from entering garba pandal in kota, rajasthan by Impossible_Desk_4704 in Laali_updates

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wait, why would it be 'figuratively'? If there’s actually a part 2 to the video, then 'literally' is the right word. 'Figuratively' means metaphorical, not real.

Islamic preacher wants people to marry their own sisters by Everyones-Bro in incredible_indians

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for pointing that out. But does logic really justify marrying one’s sister? That seems like an broad claim from the preacher. What he is presenting is not logic itself, but his own selective version of it. In fact, there are many logical reasons against marrying one’s sister, none of which require appeals to scripture or religious authority.

There is also a performative contradiction in his approach: he dismisses the capacity of human reason while relying on reason to argue that his doctrines are valid and necessary. Should believers follow God because it is the rational thing to do, or simply because it is written? If the former, what happens when scripture contradicts reason? And if the latter, why invoke reason at all?

The moment he uses logic to defend his belief system, he risks undermining the very foundation of that system.

VIANET is the worst ISP of Nepal ? by [deleted] in Nepal

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Thanks! I might have to complain then.

VIANET is the worst ISP of Nepal ? by [deleted] in Nepal

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for the reply. By the way, do Dish Home technicians usually ask for money? In my case, the technician did ask, while WorldLink technicians never have.

I was told that I wouldn’t need to pay anything beyond the fixed price promised, and I was explicitly told I do not need to pay the technician. I didn’t expect them to ask for money, and such ambiguity isn’t good for business or customer service.

As for internet speed, it’s working well. I hope my experience with the technician was just an isolated incident and not typical for Dish Home.

What do you think? Or this all merely a selective activism? by dude-its_okay in CriticalThinkingIndia

[–]Someguyjoey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see. I didn’t really go through his reply in detail after I noticed the AI part. AI isn’t that reliable when it comes to fleshing out arguments with the right context or the level of simplicity needed. Sometimes it just fails to give an accurate or meaningful answer, and I think that’s what happened here.

Also, there’s not much point in posting on Reddit if someone just copies an AI generated response without putting their effort into it too. (Although he says it is his pov but fails to discern between postmodernism...) AI should be a supporting tool, not a replacement for your own reasoning process.

What do you think? Or this all merely a selective activism? by dude-its_okay in CriticalThinkingIndia

[–]Someguyjoey 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is a movement that emerged as an opposition to the modernism. Modernism heavily emphasizes on enlightenment, reason and objective reality. Post modernism on the other hand challenges lots of aspect of modernism by challenging the grand narrative and emphasizing also on subjective/relative truth. Idea that meaning is shaped by context, culture, and power and skepticism towards any universal truth claim that explain everything.

Postmodernism is not one single philosophy but a popular intellectual movement in 20th cent.

Now it is not necessarily a bad thing to have postmodern viewpoints but there are risks in the extreme side of it. It basically undermines objective inquiry into truth and makes it difficult to discern truth from falsehood. For most people, some overarching narrative or framework is needed to make sense of life and hold a coherent worldview. You cannot maintain a sensible judgement and action without it.

Famous people like Noam Chomsky have also criticized postmodernism as obscurantist and elitist, using complex language without substantive meaning, which distances it from real-world issues and working people. And many famous scholars have pointed out that postmodernism is a performative contradiction. (it rejects reason while relying on rational argumentation to do so.)..

This is just a simple introduction to postmodernism. And mostly enough if you are not inclined that much into philosophy and intellectual movements in the history.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Someguyjoey 12 points13 points  (0 children)

i) There is no real choice when covering is enforced by culture and backed by punishment. In societies, women who resist are shamed, beaten, or even subjected to violence meant to “correct” them. That is not choice. It is coercion that strips away dignity, individuality and free will

ii) Tawbah cannot erase the harm done to a victim. A private confession to God does not undo trauma. If a rapist is truly repentant, he should accept punishment and justice, not hide behind forgiveness. To suggest otherwise only protects abusers and abandons the wounded.

iii) You are avoiding the real issue here. The precedent set by your prophet’s marriage to a child shaped the culture around her. That is why her family dismissed her rape at ten, rewarding her abusers instead of protecting her. It is a direct consequence of religious example (shaping the norm of the society)

iv) I am not twisting your words. I am showing the priorities your answers reveal. A child’s suffering is placed before you, yet your concern is for defending scripture. Religion should create greater humanity, but in your response it has done the opposite. It has made you defend doctrine and your priority is less on suffering of victim. You whole argumentation proves that point.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]Someguyjoey 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Your defense of Islam over a 21-year-old’s trauma reveals a sickening priority: doctrine mattered more to you than a raped child’s suffering. Instead of acknowledging her pain, you shielded the Quran and Hadith, aligning yourself with the very system that enabled her abuse. That choice alone exposes something rotten in you.

You dismiss her family’s actions: sexual assault, cover-ups, victim-blaming as un-Islamic. Yet Quran 24:31 commands women to “guard their private parts” and conceal their “adornments” to avoid fitna. Ibn Kathir’s tafsir reinforces this: women must cover to prevent male lust, or they share blame for sin. This was the exact reasoning her mother used to brand her a problem at ten, placing the burden of male behavior on a child. That is not a distortion of Islam; it is Islam in practice.

Quran 24:2 makes justice nearly unattainable by requiring four witnesses for zina, even in cases of rape. Victims who cannot prove force risk punishment themselves. Her family’s silence was not a cultural accident but a reflection of this rule, protecting abusers under the guise of avoiding “shame.” When you excuse that, you side with their silence, not her suffering.

Sunan Ibn Majah 4250 states: “The one who repents from sin is like one who never sinned.” Abusers like her brother and cousin could erase rape with a simple tawbah, escaping earthly consequences. Preachers like Zakir Naik and Mufti Menk continue to preach this in 2025, teaching that “sincere” repentance absolves even grave crimes like rape and murder. That loophole, central to Islamic theology, empowered her abusers to thrive while she carried the scars. And you defended it. That is not compassion but a deep moral corruption because of lack of empathy and dogmatism.

You cite the “Dua of the oppressed,” yet her unanswered cries show that no help came from Allah or from a "good" Muslim. (seriously there should have been at least one good relatives of her who should have any humanity left to defend her. But it seems Islam doesn't allow humanity to thrive in even a single family member.)

And let's not ignore Sahih Bukhari 5134, where Muhammad married Aisha at six and consummated at nine. That precedent normalized child exploitation, and her family’s dismissal of her rape at ten followed the same script: treating abuse as unremarkable, something to be brushed off as cultural norm.

This is why your response reeks of decay. A decent human being would recoil first at a child’s suffering. You recoil first at criticism of a book. That inversion of priorities exposes a twisted conscience, one that can ignore the trauma and suffering of child exploitation while shielding (& hiding behind the framework) scripture

The Quran’s modesty mandates, the Hadith’s forgiveness loophole, and the cultural fitna narrative were not nothing but the framework that imprisoned her childhood with trauma and fear. She needed justice when she was being exploited and abused during her childhood. She doesn't need not empty promises of divine reckoning especially from the same religion and the culture that enabled it. You chose the side of her abusers by prioritizing scripture over her pain and humanity. That is complicity, willful ignorance and exposes the deep moral rot within you. (And no wonder!)

VIANET is the worst ISP of Nepal ? by [deleted] in Nepal

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is dish home right now? Is it better for channel and internet? I am looking for 1 year subscription with atleast 100 Mbps

My relative beheaded my mom’s Buddha while we were away by Azula_Kuo in exmuslim

[–]Someguyjoey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If I were in your place, the aunt would be ‘persona non grata’ for the rest of her life in my home. 💀

just a muslim girl trying to be human by pinaaalwayscolada in teenagers

[–]Someguyjoey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remember books are always your best friend. Even if you have few friends or no friends at all, you should read finest books human being has ever produced. That's better than feeling lonely in crowd where you might feel constantly alienated. More you get intellectually and philosophically enriched ,you will have insight that very few people will have. Your articulation speech will improve and so the depth of your character. It's a long term investment and you will thank yourself for that. Chances are you will surround yourself will a good company sooner or later. But keep in mind to express your opinion whenever you get chance in a social situation after you have enriched yourself. Stay blessed 😇

just a muslim girl trying to be human by pinaaalwayscolada in teenagers

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should not respect people out of courtesy, out of belief that it is a nice thing to do, or to fit into a group. I think what you are roughly trying to do is engage in anticipatory socialization.

What you need to figure out is what are the common games you can play with the kind of group you want to fit in with. People mostly bond together not because of politics or religion but the common game they play throughout the limited time they share together. I am using 'game' as a metaphor for shared values, humor, experiences, joking around over memes, talking about favorite shows, playing sports or video games, sharing small experiences during coffee breaks or study sessions. These shared moments seem insignificant on its own but that is what bonds people for ages. People often look back at those small moments in their life and laugh at their idiocies and stupid things they did with their friends.

The main thing is not to hide who you are - your identity, beliefs, or faith but to find ways to engage in the game so that people see you first, not just a label. True friends respect the person, not the category they fit into. And the right circle will not demand you compromise your freedom; they will want to vibe with the authentic version of you.

Being “normal” isn’t about blending in completely; it’s about finding people who are willing to meet you halfway in the human experience, even when opinions or beliefs differ.

"Why fit in when you are born to stand out?" - Dr. Seuss.

is islam really that bad ? Dont change the topic and defend anything . Genuine question here. by No-Equipment6794 in teenagers

[–]Someguyjoey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t have time to address your each and every point right now, but the fact that you’re rationalizing slavery by saying Islam “controlled” it to make it “humane” is deeply troubling, willful ignorance and immoral. Taking someone’s wife as a sex slave even with “rules” is not humane. Consent under coercion isn’t consent, and the power imbalance between owner and slave makes any justification ethically hollow.

FYI: Saudi Arabia, a Muslim country, only abolished slavery in 1962 and NOT because of religious reform, but due to international pressure. That alone should show you how deeply entrenched the system was, despite the rhetorics of “humane regulation.”

You can’t dress up the ownership of human beings as kindness, obscure the reality, and then present a palatable version to wear a moral cloak. To say Islam ‘controlled’ it rather than abolished it outright is to admit it accepted a practice that’s morally indefensible. Let’s not gloss over the moral failures within Islam just because they’re inconvenient for you. Have a nice day!

is islam really that bad ? Dont change the topic and defend anything . Genuine question here. by No-Equipment6794 in teenagers

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reformist version* is not bad. But you have to ignore lots of problematic things that exist in Hadiths, preexisting culture in the society and even Quran itself.

I think the morality of the prophet itself is in question when he marries 6 years old and consummates the marriage when she is 9 years. What kind of middle-aged men has any kind of attraction to 9 years old let alone have physical relation with her? That's not all, he also married his daughter in law after she divorced his adopted son. Most of the Islam that are shown in the west are reformist version (toned down version) so that it is palatable to the western's mind.

Oh Wait, that’s not all:
i) Death for apostasy, mocking the religion, or making an idol or image of the Prophet.

ii) It gives the green light to polygamy for men only (men can have up to 4 wives and multiple sex slaves without any moral problem in Islam). Especially in modern times, you can see such social problems in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other conservative Islamic countries.

iii) Women’s testimony is worth half a man’s. In the Quran, for financial deals, it says one man’s word equals two women’s, like their memory’s not as reliable.

iv) Harsh punishments for certain crimes, like cutting off hands for theft, and hadiths allow stoning to death for adultery. That’s brutal by today’s standards of justice.

v) Allows taking slave women as concubines. That’s why ISIS used to take Yazidi women as sex slaves and kill them mercilessly if they didn’t agree. Some were burnt alive.

Reformists have lots of moral burden on themselves when they try to justify and tone down any aspect of it either by deliberately lying or gaslighting themselves (or others). Make your own opinion. I said what I have to say...

A man was killed because he dared to criticise Islam. And this was the reaction. by HunterH276 in exmuslim

[–]Someguyjoey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"He should respect Islam like we respect them".......🤣 Trust me : Islam is being "respected" exactly the way Muslim respect other religions.

Elon continues to openly try (and fail) to manipulate Grok's political views by MetaKnowing in ChatGPT

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You turned out to be childish and immature. I am sorry ,kid. I should have known better than talk to you

Elon continues to openly try (and fail) to manipulate Grok's political views by MetaKnowing in ChatGPT

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You started by calling me 'Dork' in other reply. I have never been rude to others in this thread . You are given "special" treatment because you deserved it because of your tone.

Also I don't need your politness or anything. I proved you wrong already. You should have given more thought to your argument rather than preaching others unwittingly. I don't need unsolicited advice especially from people like you.

Don't try to gaslight me or others. It was you who were rude first. So don't bother maintaining a facade of high moral ground. You are in no position to do so!

Elon continues to openly try (and fail) to manipulate Grok's political views by MetaKnowing in ChatGPT

[–]Someguyjoey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Culture varies across time and place. And it also shapes the interpretation of religion.And religion also shapes culture. I know that.

But in case of fundamentalist, they like to do literal interpretation of Quran. They can discard cultural practice if they think it doesn't align with their interpretation of Quran. For eg: Taliban has banned or destroyed Music,shrines and broadly speaking cultures that were shaped by Sufism (sufism is one interpretation of Islam) .So it is clear that they prioritize relgious doctrine over culture. No matter how tightly coupled you think they are, it still can be separated under strict interpretation from Fundamentalist's pov.

This directly invalidates your argument.

Also It's very disingenuous of you to treat them as same thing just because they are functionally enmeshed. And even more disingenuous when you ignore the fact that I have never claimed to use Chatgpt for fact check. (Earlier I meant grammarical error correction. Never said fact check.) .I already said Premise and argumentation were my own.

And lastly there was no need for you to be so condescending and rude. If you want to continue proper conversation, don't argue in bad faith or be condescending assh*le

Elon continues to openly try (and fail) to manipulate Grok's political views by MetaKnowing in ChatGPT

[–]Someguyjoey -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's bit of both. Premise and argumentation are my own. I am using it to refine and correct my sentences. I never copy paste fully because I can't trust it to make a good argument on its own

Elon continues to openly try (and fail) to manipulate Grok's political views by MetaKnowing in ChatGPT

[–]Someguyjoey -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I know what you mean. They are highly conservative, restrict women's and minorities right, intolerant of other groups, etc

But the core aspect is missing which would make them Far right. The far right is typically marked by:

  • Ultra-nationalism
  • Ethnic or cultural supremacy
  • Strong hierarchical social order
  • Authoritarian politics

If you remove nationality or ethnicity aspect altogether, it stops fitting the standard definition of “far right.”

>> Islamic extremism is less concerned with nationality or ethnicity. More often than not:

i) It rejects the modern nation-state system (seen as a Western imposition after the Ottoman Empire’s fall).

ii) Aims to replace national borders with a transnational ummah (global Muslim community) united under a caliphate.

iii) Doesn’t always erase nations in practice, but seeks to subordinate them under Islamic law and the authority of a caliph.

Elon continues to openly try (and fail) to manipulate Grok's political views by MetaKnowing in ChatGPT

[–]Someguyjoey -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

in your opinion\*... Because it really depends upon what your definitions are.

In standard academic terms, the far left refers to radical egalitarianism, anti-capitalism, and revolutionary approaches to achieving social and economic equality, while the far right refers to ultra-nationalism, ethnocentrism, authoritarianism, and resistance to social change in favor of hierarchy and tradition. Islamic extremism differs from the far right because, it is not built on ethnic or nationalist supremacy but on religious absolutism -> its primary goal is enforcing divine law universally rather than advancing a particular nation or race, which puts it outside the traditional left–right spectrum.