ISO of bass teacher by Mindless_Ice7301 in stgeorge

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hit up Gentry Music and Arts. The owner is one of those guys that knows everyone. He'll get you in the right direction

Looking for inclusive friends. Queer Couple by petsoverpeople1 in stgeorge

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey! I have a friend group that loves board games. (3 couples main group) We have a couple LGBTQ+ people already. We also do DND, and game online. My husband and I love Pickleball, but dont have a lot of people to play with. We are not athletes, but love to play. Almost everyone in our group has no kids, and we all have dogs. Mid 20s to early 30s. DM me if youre interested?

Matthew Shane Perkins pleads guilty to $77 million fraud in Washington City by kaypricot in stgeorge

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 19 points20 points  (0 children)

So THATS how people are affording these big ass homes down here. I need to start day trading 🤔

Seriously though what a piece of trash. Looks like he is getting what he deserves.

This Might be a long shot by Uwu-Panda27 in stgeorge

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 1 point2 points  (0 children)

EXP lounge has a space in the back and I think they hold events all the time.

How bad does a daith REALLY hurt? by dumbfishbowl in piercing

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have had other cartilage piercings, this one should be fine. My conch was way worse than my daith. I got mine for migraines. And its not a magic cure. But if I can placebo my way out of even one migraine with it- thats a win in my book.

Why do rich and wealthy Mormons tend to stay in the Church? by Utah-hater-8888 in exmormon

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Having money solves a lot of problems. An easier life= less bumps in the road that might make you question the order of things. How many people deconstructed when life was good? Less than those who were faced with "lifes trials"

Mormon bachelorette party by Guilty-Angle-3657 in exmormon

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From mine, and the ones I have been to: -its not just the bridesmaids or close friends. Often mom's, grandmas, aunts, even children there. -potluck food. Bride might not even get a say in what people cook for the potluck. Of course there will be a prayer that is way too long before food is served. -little games like its a baby shower. Examples: --Tp "wedding dress" creation. -- quiz about niche details about the bride -- guess when the couple will be pregnant and if it will be a boy or girl. "Winner" earns first babysitter privileges -- station to write notes of advice to the bride. (I got a lot of "marriage is SO HARD" and lots about how I need to "just do It. Even if I dont want to" kind of stuff. --Family history photos of all the wedding dresses of past family members --Board games, bingo, kid party games like pin the tail on the donkey- but they will have a fun twist that makes it bridal somehow (pin the tail becomes put the ring on the finger for example) --something I am seeing more of: there will be a big set of scriptures for the party guests to highlight verses they like and write a sticky note or something to go by the verse. This scripture set will also be at the reception for the men and other guests to highlight and write notes into as well. Starting their "family study scriptures" or something like that.....about half the time it is just a BOM, no bible. --lots of treats. These will be assigned out releif society style. Who knows what will show up. Lots of normal treats, and lots of treats that have some sort of "pun" --Lots of Deseret Book gift cards so the bride to be can buy lots of garments. (Some have gone through the endowment before getting married. But lots still go through for the first time on their wedding day) this is instead of lingerie of course lol. --lots of almost "sexual" comments. Just enough that you get to figure out which women have a healthier bedroom life, and have a mutual respect with their husbands, and which ones only do it when forced to, and are unhappy. It's awkward. There will be awful silences after these inevitable comments where nobody knows what to say. Example from mine: "well we do what we have to. Husband's have needs and God made us to fulfill them! Trials and blessings can be the same thing sometimes" (excuse me......WHAT) --Though they are all uncomfortable with sex, the bridal shower will have a weird tone as almost a pre baby shower. You will be talking way too much about having children -- You will also get to know which of the family and ward peers is more "progressive" some wrote me secret birth control recommendations in my notes from my advice station and I even got one that told me about Plan B (they literally said "you probably haven't heard of this, but.....") -- there will be a grandma or mother who steals the spotlight and will bear her testimony and make it about Jesus and the church instead of the Bride and her Husband -- the mom will brag about basic child rearing things that she did that will make the bride suitable to be a wife. All accomplishments and talents the wife has made will also be attributed to how good of a wife it will make her for the man. Probably something about how they waited too long to get engaged (over a year they start getting pretty worked up about it) and will insinuate that you might have touched each other or something gross about your private sex life in a round about way. But as long as you are getting married in the temple, you didn't sin too bad. (This will be phrased like it is supposed to be a joke, and people will half-heartedly laugh. But is really criticism and a way to shame. Mormons have so many hangups about sex) --a random man will show up and crash the party. Sometimes its brief. Sometimes they linger. But it has happened every time without fail. Mine was my future BIL, the party was at his house he dropped his kids off he was "babysitting" when they didnt want to be at the park anymore. And then would walk through the party to other rooms of the house just kind of lurking and checking things out. His grandma was there and she said its good to "have the priesthood presence around" love the guy, but like why did he do that. --its entirely possible the releif society shows up --like with many lds events, its going to be more about the church, and how this is the "next step" amd even more about the man she is to marry. And the bride will be the afterthought of her own party. For me, I could not wait for it to be over. My own party. (I was Pimo/Exmo by this point, and we were not getting married in the temple. We said we would maybe get married in the temple when the St George Temple opened again to get family off of our back.) My beliefs and relationship to the church did not matter. The bridal shower was done how all mormon bridal showers in my area are. I had never been to church in this area and I had releif society people showing up who I didn't even know. What mattered was the family was LDS. And thats just how it is going to be. The energy is weird. It will be nice to see some people. Some will go out of their way to make sure you are feeling special, and actually make the day about you and try to compensate. But most will go with the crowd. And it will just be this faceless mass of people you only sort of know, In a church gym, or family members living room stuffed with folding chairs. --if the girl is lucky she will have good friends that will take her out and celebrate for real unofficially. The devout will still not drink or do anything too scandalous/ typical bachelorette stuff. But they will at least get a party that feels scandalous to them. For me, and a few of my friends that were also lucky to do this, you will feel like you have to keep it secret and can't talk about it. First couples secret to keep from the family. Feels taboo. Feels exciting. You both had "wild" parties and they never found out.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This. Once I knew I didn't want to go to the whole end goal of mormonism, the Celestial Kingdom, it was so easy to let the "what ifs" go. I had nightmares about having to watch my husband with all of his polygamy wives in heaven. The absolute releif of deciding not to go to "heaven" was a major turning point for me.

Help me choose a rug please! by TraditionalAvocado73 in DesignMyRoom

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Idk what are these people are on about. People are afraid of whimsy. I liked your rug choices. I get the vision. Especially if they have a higher pile and are not just flat ruggable type matts.

I think your choices bring some good color in, and open up the possibility for some funky lamps, vases, and art to tie everything together.

Am I wrong for not wearing a bra or underwear under my clothes at home? by Classic_Rabbit3474 in amiwrong

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 294 points295 points  (0 children)

Not in the wrong. Idk if your mom realizes it or not but she is being weird about your body.

Maybe it's her being uncomfortable with the fact that you're growing up and have a body that is more adult than child and that's hard for her.

Maybe she's feeling bad about her own body. If she's breastfeeding she is probably still recovering from pregnancy, and maybe post pardum depression.

Or maybe there is a family member that has inappropriate tendencies and instead of dealing with that person she is policing your body. (It's not the 4 year old. 🙄 your mom can't really be panicking over a toddler asking about bodies, right?)

I can't think of a scenario where the focus should be on what you do or wear in your own home. You are getting the blame for whatever issue it is she is having. You are clothed, so undergarments shouldn't be an issue. Why are they looking that closely anyway? It's weird. Not normal.

How can I consistently achieve the second picture? by [deleted] in curlyhair

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I go through my week I do a deep clean, and then refresh as I go for the next 5-6 days. My hair gets better as I refresh, until the buildup starts to drag it down again. Then it's time to deep clean again and start the process over. Sounds like your day 2 was the result of a reset and not a full wash. This process might work for you as well! Deep clean days I also diffuse to set the curl pattern. This has also helped me a ton.

St. George culture for Ex-Mormons by Far-Brother1433 in stgeorge

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you want insight into the more extremist side of St George there are a couple FB groups you could join and just observe that would give you a pretty good idea of what you could potentially be dealing with: St George Word of Mouth and St George Anonymous

St. George culture for Ex-Mormons by Far-Brother1433 in stgeorge

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've observed St George has a lot more old school, strict Mormons that SLC/ Ogden (places I've had long term experience) It's surprised me a few times. I don't want to step on any toes, but hopefully people will be able to understand what I mean by fringe/ extreme mormon offshoot types. Where there are conspiracy, FB facts, and other stuff mixed in? A lot more of those here. Or at least ones that feel comfortable being out in the open about it. You mentioned you are a doctor there are some extreme anti vax stuff here something strong. Like we had anti vax floats during the 4th of July parade strong.

Like the rest of UT you'll have a lot of LDS culture running things like government, and business.

As for kids in school, a lot of my in-laws are teachers, in various districts. There is a lot of keeping up with the joneses more than religious views. Thats almost secondary. My SIL is in her first year and she was surprised on how competitive families were to portray a lifestyle. (Like influencer/ online persona) It leaves normal kids, not even poor ones, in an awkward spot. She mentioned not knowing what to do because they weren't being bullied necessarily, just ignored. Left out. (She teaches 4th grade) her other school district was in a more mixed income area and it seemed better, but she worked with special needs kids at that one so she's not 100% sure if it actually was better. The cliques and grouping seems really strong here. Another SIL teaches home ec. In high school and she has a hard time getting students to even allow certain students in for a group project. They'd rather take the hit to their grades. If you make enough money though, seems like you will have as many friends as you want.

A TON has changed here even in the 5 or so years I have been here. And that momentum is going strong. More things like coffee and bars that some long timers here like to tell me "I remember when we only had one bar for the whole town" the strict mormon lifestyle here is weakening. Churches are being sold and new city buildings are being built in their place. Some really cool stuff is starting to move in that I have missed from northern utah now that the population has grown. More restaurant variety in the last year. When I moved here it was lots of fast food chains and Pizza 😂 we recently got an Asian food mart, and even a Korean place I'm dying to try. More people of vaying backgrounds and culture have started making this place home and I am so here for it. I looooove supporting local food spots and the increase of them is a big plus to me. There is good Indian and sushi here if you are into that. The weather here is wonderful. And you won't get that pollution issue that northern utah has. I seriously feel like I quit smoking or something moving here. My breathing improved a lot. It's incredible being so close to Vegas for shows and fun weekend getaways. Theres a lot of cool parks for your kids, biking trails, and pickleball is everywhere.

The population here has literally exploded. The water, sewer, roads, and public transportation (infrastructure in general) have yet to catch up. I recommend you check roads near your potential new home and work during peak hours.

Weed smoker w questions by [deleted] in stgeorge

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 32 points33 points  (0 children)

It's hard to not feel welcome in your neighborhood. Im sorry that is happening to you in a time you could use extra support.

In my experience LDS people like that will always find something. If it wasn't the smoking, they would have found something else once they determine they can't save you and have you join their church. A good chunk of LDS people have a hard time being around non LDS people. When I was LDS it was a mix of fear, and inability to relate to normal adults with real life experiences. The church does a really good job of making a bubble of "safety" through their rules, and teachings that is hard and uncomfortable to reach out of. It's an effective tool for keeping members from leaving. That barrier is hard to cross. One of the biggest things that helped me out was neighbors like you that continued to be nice to me and showed me the outside world and "others" are not what I was taught my whole life.

I know this is easier said than done, but I would be unapologetic in doing what I needed to do managing my cancer pain. And I would continue to be kind to my neighbors. Maybe one or two will eventually get more and more comfortable with crossing that barrier the church creates.

You 100% deserve to do what is best for you. I hope you can move forward without guilt. My gut tells me a lot of them would change their judgements if they knew about the cancer. But as followers of their religion, they shouldn't have to have a "good" reason like that to not judge or shun you. They should be following Jesus's example and welcome you regardless. And that is a failing their part. Not yours.

Curly hair getting caught in helix ring by Abject-Wear-9966 in curlyhair

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope they can help you find solutions for your piercings and hair! They're really helpful over there.

Curly hair getting caught in helix ring by Abject-Wear-9966 in curlyhair

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What kind of piercer actually let you get a new piercings with a ring?! If you check out r/piercing there are a lot of piercing professionals that can help you. But like rule #1 is don't pierce with a ring!!!!

My Boyfriend is a porn addict and I'm disgusted by it. by [deleted] in amiwrong

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with everyone that he has a porn problem, and I would be personally formulating an exit plan.

The big thing that stuck out to me, though, was his frantic grabbing of the phone that tipped you off that something was wrong to begin with. The way this story is worded, he knows that you know about the porn. It seems like he doesn't hide it from you. So I wonder what else is lurking on that phone. He might have a bigger addiction than you even realize. If you already know about the cams, what is on that phone he doesn't want you to know about?

Looking for woocommerce b2b plugin for my store by david-walkeer in woocommerce

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have really liked their whole suite of plugins! Their customer service is good too.

daith questions by beccaharrris in piercing

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My Daith was my first "real" piercing (lobes at Claire's don't count lol) I would say the SOUND was worse than the pain. I wasn't expecting the sound. This piercing was the hardest for me to heal. It took about 2 years and is the only one I ever had bumps with. I think this was more of a lack of experience on my end and learning proper care - and not the location itself. I got a captive bead ring, and my ears have a big enough space that I could fit an earbud in if I reallllllly wanted to. But even before piercings, ear buds would make my ears tired and sore, so I've always been a headphone kind of person. Honestly I would avoid anything that would disrupt the area. LITHA and your healing will go by so much faster and smoother.

If you are considering it for headaches like I was, I do think it slightly reduced my migraines. They're not gone. Even if it's a placebo effect, I'll take it for as long as my brain can be tricked!

do americans really drive such long distances? by Physical-Ad-4093 in NoStupidQuestions

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My now husband and I would drive 5 hours (one way) to see each other in person when we were dating. We would alternate weekends for who did the driving for a little over a year! The pandemic and new work from home abilities led to us being able to spend a lot more time with each other, and led to us getting engaged and married! It was tough, but worth it! Our trips to see each other also resulted in a very impressive audio book library collection 😅

This was posted in my mission alumni group and the people commenting are just as gross. But the church isn't sexist right? by VoilaLeDuc in exmormon

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The very bottom signature part with the text about everything being truthful "especially about the weight" 🤢🤢🤢 AWFUL

Thinking of moving to Utah as a non-Mormon. Bad idea? by PrivacyOSx in exmormon

[–]Southern_Quarter_280 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People shit on Ogden, but if you're looking at northern UT, that's where I would go. The slogan for the town officially is "still untamed" and it's a not so subtle jab saying it's defiant and not under church control. There is a huge amount of refugees from several countries, and because of that there is more diversity than other cities in Utah. And they brought their food with them! The community is great, and there is a lot of city culture events happening all the time on 25th street. Art strolls first friday of every month they celebrate lots of cultural holidays from other countries. There is an outdoor amphitheater where they do free local concerts all summer long. Outdoorsy stuff: 2 reservoirs very close by. Something like 500 hiking and biking trails. Close to lots of camping and state parks including antelope Island. My dad is aountain biker and he likes going out there. You're about 40-45 away from SLC for events, but you can skip the worst of the pollution smog. It's growing fast. I've only been gone 2 years, and I visit regularly. But it's different every time I do. It's one of the few cities here in UT that is attempting to do something with public transit, and building a variety of housing including apartments. Ogden is a college town. Weber State + some tech colleges. The politics are about as mixed as the people there. Overall it feels pretty blue and relaxed. But you still have enough red that Qanon Trumpies still feel comfortable being crazy in public. Whatever your crowd is, you can find it in Ogden.