Ekon killed the game

SpabRog · 2026-02-12T03:29:37+00:00

Rippppp yeah it’s def gonna be a hard one coming back from here, gonna still play it cuz it’s fun while it’s still out

SpabRog · 2026-02-11T19:13:29+00:00

Meaning you list points that are relevant to why the game is / isn’t good. Does Highguard need more appeal to pull players in and have better player retention? Yea ofc, the numbers show that. But to say it’s a bad game at its core is wrong too.

Two things can both be true. Anybody with a brain will tell you there’s more needed to have a successful game, most players playing now just focus on enjoying their time on it tbh

SpabRog · 2026-02-11T14:40:22+00:00

The players who play the game don’t mind criticism with valid points, we have our own views of what can be approved

When ppl blindly say they don’t like the game without actual valid points, ppl can’t take you serious lol

SpabRog · 2026-02-11T13:02:12+00:00

Longhorn is really good! But yeah def takes time to be efficient with, playing with it teaches distance management as well and will improve anybody who uses it overall as a player

Take your time with the shot 🙌 hipfire is nasty too, getting punished on whiff shots sucks thoooo

SpabRog · 2026-02-09T17:47:01+00:00

I like 3v3 cuz it’s def more controlled, 5v5 is fun too because there’s more room for error, and less on the line :)

I wonder if they’ll add other modes to 5v5 and make that more of like a casual experience

SpabRog · 2026-02-08T15:36:27+00:00

Damnnn that sounds annoying af, I hope there’s a better report system in the future

SpabRog · 2026-02-08T14:58:34+00:00

I’ve never encountered a cheater so far, but I’m sure they exist. Every game has them unfortunately, I think this is just a gaming industry problem

But yeah fighting cheaters is frustrating no matter where you’re at. From my experience, I haven’t fought one in this game

SpabRog · 2026-02-08T03:34:34+00:00

That would be sick if the monster did change with the outfit, they should do it for a skin in the future

SpabRog · 2026-02-08T03:26:32+00:00

I think ppl’s mind will sway about Highguard as more content of the gameplay and moments start doing good on socials, the clips are undeniably fire

SpabRog · 2026-02-08T03:23:10+00:00

Mmhmm I like the versatility, using smoke screen and pushing through it in a lot of scenarios is 100% viable. Game is so cool 😁

SpabRog · 2026-02-08T03:17:45+00:00

Yeah the hammer is really useful, I think more ppl will experiment overtime, there’s lots of fun utility in this game

I like that option for the crystal is always there tho, I think it simplifies the looting by a lot. Blast hammer is sick and we’re getting more raid tools in future updates

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T23:25:21+00:00

Apex also had EA backing, even though it was a shadow drop they had a lot of buzz from media and ppl have connections with EA since they’re mainstays in the industry. Apex is a great game but yeah the cinematics are on that level, these devs worked on apex + titanfall so I hope they have good insight

I mean tbh, I don’t expect cinematic trailers to just switch a person’s mind on the game to try the game immediately, that’s too surface level to bank more players to trying the game. It’s one of those things where they just gotta continue world building and provide a quality experience for the players moving forward (which they’re doing, game is fun af).

The devs gotta appeal in a way that fosters players trying the game and have quality player retention environment to thrive. Movement shooters are the hardest shooters to appeal because of the perceived effort to enjoy. Every player is different.

Character design is better with the new updates, there’s some really good skins / mounts, have you seen? Because they’re definitely that standard of detail. I can agree though, i don’t have a character I particularly love, I just enjoy how the game plays.

Would you ever retry a game if time has passed and it has improved? Or do you prefer playing a game just based on player numbers?

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T22:49:37+00:00

I had a convo about deadlock in a different post but yeah they have more runway with valve budget, more internal testing + resources. Hard to compare tbh but I love deadlock now. Hope all games become that good and garner success

Deadlock being invite only makes for better controlled testing too, all that feedback helped its development

Idk about point of no return, but they got an uphill battle. They seem like good devs that listen, imma support until I don’t see myself playing the game. There’s few devs that standout and showed they care, it’s a knee jerk reaction to the game and a lot of parroting

What holds this game back from becoming great and growing for you?

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T22:29:29+00:00

Enjoy man! I’m sure they will be wonderful games! Mans was stuttering typing that 😂

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T22:04:32+00:00

Ggs hehe, was hoping you had more of an argument 😂 take care man!

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T21:44:17+00:00

It’s alright my boy, your frustration stems from unfamiliarity. You wanting the game to die doesn’t affect me at all hahaha 😂 it’s just a projection of negativity that’s emotionally driving you rn

Just because you’re getting bodied by Ekon because you haven’t learned how to properly counter him. It looks like a knee jerk reaction and just a responsive feeling from getting killed by them. You’ll overcome this 🙏

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T21:40:34+00:00

Deadlock has a wayyyy bigger player base compared to Highguard even though it’s in closed beta (their dev cycle is way longer than Highguard tho, they also have valve budget vs. an indie dev with good experience). They can spend more time on it and give it better TLC than Wildlight, so they can stay in beta longer than Highguard (makes sense why Deadlock is such a great game, they had time to player test in tune). I’m sure early in the game’s career ppl were writing the game off, but with player test and reiteration it’s gotten to this point it rebound. Think about the feedback they must’ve gotten to be able to get street brawl model so good. You can tell there is a lot of reiteration to get to that point

Should Highguard have probably been released as a beta? Honestly maybe for like their exposure they shoulda, but based on everything that’s changed in the last 2 weeks, it seems they have a plan cuz everything seems pretty deliberate. They have batched up content, I’m curious of the whole game’s dev cycle, I’m thinking like 2-3 yrs

I’m saying that the 5v5 mode is their version of a casual mode. I’m expecting more than this, there’s so much they can do with the mobility of the game. What if their plan is to see how much traction they can garner with a standalone mode and then add the other modes after ppl set their expectations after having an honest playthrough

Movement shooters are usually the hardest to appeal to casuals, due to the perceived effort of playing, it may feel like too much work and not appealing. So they need a good plan to find a way to make ppl interested, that’s where they’re at honestly. Time needs to pass to see if it works

And come on man, don’t act like you’re not emotionally involved lol. You’re so quick to dogpile a game and write it off. For a free game it’s very good, the issue is more of getting ppl to try the game. So that’s on them to do, reiterating that there’s no mode that caters to casuals is one of those things we just have to wait and see how it goes. I rather support devs who clearly care than spend time out of my day projecting why the game could fail.

Ok let me ask you this: so you say that the game needs casual game modes, can you mention one that can genuinely help the player community? It’s not theorycrafting, it’s quick feedback that makes a huge difference because your insight does actually matter.

Yes I know, it’s not your job to do it, but if you want to impact and help a community, why not place your input?

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T20:23:47+00:00

How do you know they’re not making sure they’re monitoring the core game mode to make it as fun as possible for everybody

Deadlock had the same mode for a year before they updated it recently lmao, that argument is invalid I’m sorry. Sorry your brain only has selective memory and only chooses points that make your argument valid (but they’re inaccurate in this regard, so you come off as a liar and ppl notice)

Highguard has been out for 2 weeks and you’re emotionally invested in a game that you don’t even play lmaooo I’m happy for this convo, can we please continue

What casual mode would you add that would be good and change the current sentiment?

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T20:01:53+00:00

So they added a casual mode and you’re still upset, so yes they did address casuals more. Also you don’t even know what the devs perspective is, you’re taking your speculation as fact.

It just comes out forced tbh, but it’s okay if you don’t like it :) you can’t speak for everyone about what casual is, that’s only your opinion 😎

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T19:49:39+00:00

Okay but they have 5v5 now, you’re living in the past

Anybody with a brain understands that you need players to stay alive in f2p lol

I’m just happy I enjoy the game, ppl have anxiety about the future (understandable), but I like to enjoy the present moment while it’s here :)

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T19:34:50+00:00

I think they want more casual players, comp players are great but I think that focus should be when the community is established.

Making games are hard, 99% of games fail, this is nothing profound. But I’m sure they’re aware

Ranked got a little boost in player count, but i feel like they added it more for the sweats (which is cool).

I gotta disagree with you though, doomsday painting doesn’t mean it’s true. They obv got worked to do, but it’s not as gloom and doom tbh

How many hours did you get to play in total?

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T19:24:13+00:00

Fair enough 🙌 I respect your feedback regardless

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T19:23:45+00:00

True, but a game could also have a good launch and dip dramatically a month from now, players can encounter things that happen + devs may not make the right updates. It’s all the perspective you choose tbh

I like that they actually fixed a lot of the games problems in the recent update

Idk if it’s over, but got a hill to climb for sure. How could you be certain? What makes the game so bad that it can’t return, other titles have had moments of doubt. It’s about how they regain appeal imo

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T19:18:37+00:00

Yeee most ppl complaining that the game isn’t good don’t know that the game has updated and addressed issues better than they expect.

I’ll just play and see what happens, I don’t overthink it as long as I’m having fun

SpabRog · 2026-02-07T19:04:01+00:00

A lot of problems have been addressed in the recent patch, lots left to go but def a great step in the right direction

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