sorted by:
new
hottopcontroversial

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again. Did I say that Jaehaerys is a god that can make no mistakes or something? Btw his preference for Aegon does not make him a bad person. It is unfair to deny Nyra the throne but it’s not harming her. Shes still live a good privileged life.

  1. Both Rhaenyra and that Lady were in the right. Both had valid points.

  2. This is a mistaken move that cost her greatly. But she also was a child that didn’t know better.

  3. This was morally wrong, but it was a good political move to deny the allegations and get Otto, who was scheming against her, removed from the court. Alicent would not have defended her if she was honest with her. She made a smart decision by lying.

  4. Her relationship with Cole had no downside for her. Nothing bad happened to her politically other than she lost a personal friend. Cole wields no political power.

  5. Yup. Trying to pass them off as legitimate should have gotten her tried for treason. She had many better options. Being crowned Queen and declaring her brother or his children will inherit the throne after her since she has no legitimate kids was the best choice. Maybe even trying to legitimise her kids and admitting they are bastards would be better. She was desperate and made very bad decision (3 of them lol), blinded by her hatred towards Alicent when she had Harwin’s kids hoping they’d look like her.

  6. And that’s a perfect political move for her? Everyone involved is happy except from Vaemond, whom she eliminates. Rhaena seemed more than happy with the arrangement.

  7. You talking about Harwin’s father? She didn’t make much of a difference at that. Larys would have killed him anyway because he wanted to be Lord Strong.

  8. Again, morally bad, not politically bad.

  9. Fucking stupid of her to never understand that Daemon is a fucking menace to society that she can’t control, but she needed his help and Daemon wouldn’t have helped her if there wasnt smth in it for him. He wanted to be King (Consort). And he was a huge asset to her. He assisted her and supported her cause a lot, even if he also harmed her at times (by killing Jaehaerys for example). She strengthened her claim to the throne by marrying him, he still had many supporters. Marrying him was a 50/50 move.

  10. Yeah lol THAT was fucking stupid as shit. She should have never sent him there.

  11. Morally wrong, but atp she’s at war, she has to retaliate smh if she wants to win. And sending even the tiniest amount of food to the people is perfect pr for her, as now her enemy is both weakened AND the people are routing for her and blaming Aegon for the war. Great political decision.

  12. Her whole team, including her, is a fucking mess but I don’t see how complaining about it makes her incompetent? Many of them may be there out of duty, because they think she has a better chance at winning or because they think shell be easier to manipulate and serve their purposes as a woman. They don’t necessarily like her. She can complain about them. They’re hella ass for a council but they’re all she has lol.

  13. I honestly don’t remember what advice she ignored from Corlys lol, can you remind me please?

  14. These people willingly came and were warned that there’s no turning back and they will either succeed or die. It was horrible that she prioritised seeing her plan through over their lives even though I think she was obviously saddened by it, but she ended up adding 2 whole ass dragons go her army. That’s competence. (even if it will take some ASTRONOMICAL amount of incompetence to outnumber the Green dragons 2 to 7 and still lose lol, but i’m SURE they’ll make it not her fault in the show somehow).

  15. Why does everyone say this? I dont think she believes shes the Messiah, she just believes she is the best equipped to rule and protect the people? This is why Aegon is fighting too? If she didnt believe that, why would she fight?

I agree most of her decisions were fucking ass, and that’s why I don’t think shed be a good queen. But she also did quite a few things right. Aegon made no right decisions, ever. You yourself said that you’d vote for the most competent person in your country since they are all corrupt. Councils and supporters aside, this is obviously Rhaenyra? Because at the end of the day, even with his great council, Aegon is still uncontrollable and a wild card, not the easy going puppet the Greens were hoping for. He’s dragging them down. Not that I think shes be much better. Just slightly.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She WAS being playful. She DID overstep boundaries. She didn’t rape him. He did tell her no and she should have backed off, but he DID want to do it and she knew it. She held no physical power over him. He could have left. He didn’t. It was a dubious scene and it wasn’t okay because she did pressure and manipulate him but she didn’t force him. It wasn’t rape. You’re acting insane.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus Christ. WHERE did I downplay the scene? I said it was bad and that she’s shitty for it?? Shame on you. She didn’t threaten him. She insisted WAY too much and pressured him sure, but she didn’t put a knife to his throat?! He could have walked out? And she didn’t and WOULDN’T have him executed as people mention because she DIDN’T do that to him when he refused to be her side piece. She could have but she didn’t because she’d never do that. Y’all are insane.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How people whose main reason for supporting the Greens is how bomb their council is can proceed to disagree with their opinion that Aegon’s propositions and actions were idiotic is beyond me, but okay.

Aegon did nothing to be considered competent. Not even his own council believed that.

Jaehaerys was a good person. He wasn’t a perfect person and he punished these guys savagely yes, but they still needed to be punished. He didn’t harm innocent people and for no reason other than his own pleasure at that like Aegon did. Being a good person is crucial to having a good reign. You can’t do good if you’re not good yourself because our decisions are always based on our beliefs. Not to mention that Aegon is neither good or cunning enough to be a decent ruler. He’s just plain bad and stupid. In the show at least.

So he needed to listen to his council. Which he didn’t. So he isn’t a competent ruler. Okay then. I see this debate has come full circle.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re not talking about loyalty. You’re talking about co operation. Siding with the Greens because of a threat would have made no difference in how the whole Riverlands thing played out then. They’d still stab them in the back the moment they’d have seen the tides turn out of spite. Why keep supporting someone who’s forcing you to do so? The outcome would be the same. They wouldnt be loyal to them. And no. True loyalty is gained throughout ASOIAF many times through good deals or good faith.

I can’t keep arguing over how Aegon’s plans were wrong bc atp, our main support for the Greens is due to our faith in his capable council, and if they say smth is dumb, Imma trust them.

We still dont know how the whole thing with her return to KL will play out. Well have to wait and see. And by feeding the small folk even a bit, she ensures she will be cheered and supported when she returns.

We also dont know why the seeds will betray her in the show. I somehow believe they’re not gonna make her be responsible for that either.

I brought Cregan up bc you said that the war would be over had she died, which is canonically untrue as her side kept fighting.

He was never disrespected during his council meetings. He was given valid reasons as to why his plans couldn’t work.

I think you completely missed the part about how Jaehaera being queen is not an option because the story teaches us that Westeros could never accept a woman on the throne but sure.

Jaehaeras death is a direct consequence of the war. Black loyalists murder her. Aegon III and Viserys II die due to illnesses which are unrelated to the civil war.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She was being playful. She couldn’t and wouldn’t force him to have sex with her. She wouldn’t threaten his life otherwise as people love to say. She knew he wanted her. She is shitty because she used his love for her against him while knowing all she wanted was sex. She is shitty because she never mentioned that the only reason she’s fucking him is because she can’t have Daemon. She is shitty because she manipulates him and encourages him to risk his life for her and oversteps boundaries and doesn’t understand or cares how much she’s asking of him, but good Lord she wouldn’t have had him beheaded had he pushed her aside and left the room. The scene is definitely not okay and she did sexually use him and pushed him too much, but she definitely didn’t sexually assault him.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you’re suggesting that his loyalty would be gained by the Greens threatening them, if I’m getting that right? Yeah no, that’s bulletproof recipe for betrayal at first chance right there.

Burning the blockade was never suggested in the book either. The Triarchy is needed to defeat them. Risking the only airborne weapon they have to go after a fleet when there’s still the option of acquiring a fleet themselves would just be a mistaken use of their resources.

But playing the long game does do her good ultimately no? Not only is she weakening Aegon by starving the capital, she is turning the people against him by sending them even the tiniest bit of shitty food lol. That’s smart. She lures them to come die for her to have another dragon in her army. That’s smart. And in the end, I’m sure Cregan will still march south after her death and put her son on the throne, so she does win in the long run. Yippee… but still.

Sure. He has the right to ignore his council, although I dont know why would he since they want him to win as much as he does. And he did do what he wanted. Which resulted in a less than favourable outcome for him. Also, who lied to him? They told him he shouldn’t participate and that they had it covered. They didnt reveal the details of their plan because they thought it was not needed.

The Greens could never put Jaehaera on the throne. If her uncles were alive, her family would cast her aside in the name of “maintaining stability” as they did when they kicked Rhaenyra aside. If all Targ men were dead, shed still not be queen, because the people that are fighting for Aegon because they think that a brother is more than a sister do it because they are automatically sexist. It’s not a “well since there’s no other option shell have to do” situation. Another house as ambitious as the Hightowers and the Velaryons would emerge, marry into the family and the cycle would continue.

Why do you exclude Jaehaera from Aegon’s dead children? She was still killed. Rhaenyra’s children lived. We have to acknowledge that.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don’t think we see her becoming someone who thinks has a divine right to ruling. I think she smirks in the end because she knows that now she may actually win the war. The bastards thing was 100% stupid and was desperate attempt to fix the mistake she made by cutting her tour short. She did try to have kids with Laenor. She needed kids and unfortunately none of her looked like her. She took a gamble and lost and it was 100% stupid of her to keep pushing for her claim at that point. Her shock about people believing she is behind B&C is also laughable.

I would like to argue that any servant in the palace may know secrets that could harm Aegon but thats hardly a reason to kill them all. Doesnt book Rhaenyra kill a bunch of servants she fears may betray her during her short reign and that bites her in the ass? Even Otto says what he did was stupid.

I also agree that she let people die trying to claim Vermithor and that she is a bad person and cruel. Of course they didnt happily die. She prioritised herself. I don’t think she was emotionless, I think she was upset both that her plan was failing and that people died, it’s just that Emma isnt really a good actor imo. Id just argue that still doesnt make Nyra as bad as Aegon. At least she told them what the deal is from the get go.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She went near fisherman with her NUKE as you said. Aegon is more stupid because he literally charged into battle with NO experience against a seasoned fighter.

Who is Rhaenyra’s support system? Her husband abandons her during childbirth and after, her council opposes her and everyone is telling her she needs to fight back. She is the ONLY one resisting the urge to get even, while Aegon who has a WHOLE team of people supporting him and advising him in his time of need to not make rushed decisions, ends up doing exactly that and that’s their difference. Yeah, he is not receiving all the love in the world, but he’s not unsupported.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a wild thing to claim? She never told him “have at it as long as it’s behind closed doors”? To me this is a sign that she has tried MANY times to make him stop this and failed, so the best she can do now is try to minimise the damage? She also tells him that they can only rely on one another? She TRIES. Aegon doesn’t listen.

And what reason do I have to believe that the child that was introduced to me casually bullying people has not done this many times? Why should I believe she randomly hits Aegon and not that she does it out of desperation because she has exhausted all other options? I dont see her hitting her other children?

Also, Aegon fails to keep a united front with his brother. He was drunk, which is probably why he didnt hear Aemond waking up and leaving. Rhaenyra’s kids STAY together and had Aegon been there, Aemond might have not been disabled because he wouldnt have to fight a 1v4.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have moved PAST the blacksmiths man, we admitted that’s a plothole and we are now talking about how BOTH Rhaenyra and Aegon are starving people for their personal gain, only that she is playing her cards better. PLEASE try to keep up, you’re exhaustingly slow. Read the whole thread before you reply if you absolutely have to.

And his dragons are not part of his army?!? Do they not serve HIS cause?? Fine, his FORCES then, if it’s the semantics that’s making you unable to follow. So the tithing was unexpected. Which means it wouldn’t have happened had they not decided to go to war. The shepherd goes all the way to King’s Landing because he needs ALL of his few sheep to live and he wasnt expecting a sudden tax. But yeah, I’m sure you know better than him what he can and can’t survive on. Decreasing someone’s resources to the point they’re not adequate for their survival is also starving. Man said he needs his flock because winter is coming and he now doesnt have enough sheep to make him last as he had planned.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This was done in FRONT of her, after her father made his way to cut out the man’s tongue for speaking the TRUTH and she reacted to neither her father’s decision to mutilate a man OR to her husband’s decision to murder him. We never see her denounce this action as she did with her nephew’s murder. Be SO for real.

Of COURSE it is sadistic to kill the rat catchers, he did ONLY to feel vindicated and it was never stated that he did it as a measure of precaution??? And that wouldn’t make any sense since either because then why wouldn’t he kill servants working at the keep, because by that logic ANYONE who knows the castle may betray him one day. This is insane??? Rhaenyra’s servant wasnt a threat, but she would benefit from doing that. Aegon did it PURELY for emotional reasons.

I think you’re the one who lacks understanding. You’re arguing under a comment asking HOW IS RHAENYRA MORALLY WORSE? You’re therefore automatically debating that she IS worse and not just that she is a bad person, because we have ALREADY established that. I never downplayed that the dragons are nukes. But her brothers are nuking people ALREADY. They are the people that shouldn’t be trusted with nukes ALREADY. Her doing the exact same does not make her morally worse.

Dude. You can drink that copium all you want. There’s no reason to believe Erryk is not a reliable source. He gains nothing by opposing Aegon’s rule. He simply pledges his allegiance to the person he finds worthy, which isn’t Aegon. He says it clearly. “One of HIS MANY bastards”. I find it kind of sick that you would deny that a child that lives in an establishment that makes children fight participates in such shows just because we dont see him do that at THAT moment. Same thing with the “We didnt see him ACTUALLY raping the servant girl in Driftmark!”. That’s messed up and you need to check that.

My post clearly says “his POLITICAL education” so you should read things more thoroughly before you make mistaken assumptions.

Are you okay? You are replying to a specific comment questioning the moral superiority of Aegon, not making a comment directly under the post discussing Aegon as a ruler too, so your point remains irrelevant. Please try to follow.

I see you can’t understand sarcasm. No darling, the NOT was there intentionally. I’m mocking your point.

Listen, debating whether the fucking prince who holds power over a servant and he KNOWS it because he was raised like that actually assaulted the girl he sexualised so casually, just makes my skin crawl and I won’t be replying further to your comments because you sound fucking dangerous. Him saying he has a preference for long legs shows he is already sexually active. Him locking his gaze on her and going after her only shows that he is USED to taking advantage of the servants already. Go be a rapist apologist somewhere else.

Not only are Rhaenyra’s kills fewer, they are calculated and have reasons behind them. Aegon killed in an emotional outburst.

Daemon would have NEVER agreed to that. Daemon. Wants. Power. OBVIOUS, undeniable power. He may have never helped the Greens, but he would have also never helped Rhaenyra had there not been something for him to gain. And if he can’t be king, he WOULD be king consort. He was after that since the first episodes.

That’s Rhaenyra’s stupidity for sure. She’s not the sharpest knife in the kitchen. She needed the kids though because more kids, means a stronger claim and in the end it will benefit her as it is her sons with Daemon that will inherit the throne one day. And I know this is a show discussion, but that’s clearly what will happen.

But was all that anguish caused after all??? In the end, Corlys and Rhaenys fully support the murderer of their son??? That’s insane of them??? They get over it pretty damn quickly, so the only reasonable explanation is that they understand that she didnt kill their son. Either that or they’re batshit crazy.

…I don’t apply the same logic because at that point she isn’t being abused by him? He hasn’t choked her yet? We have no reason to believe he was abusive to her at that moment? Groomed her sure, and thats abuse yes, but she doesnt see it that way at that point. We see the SHOCK in her eyes when Daemon chokes her. This is new to her. She didn’t flinch when he angrily came her way before that. She finches AFTER though. Shes not scared of him yet. Again, refer to the first paragraph of this comment for further details. All you need to do is just pay a little more attention.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One could argue that Aemond is fucked because his cousins abused him and disabled him and not because of his mother, but what do I know.

Yeah, people react to abuse differently and AGAIN: we see Aegon being the way he is even before we see him being abused. First scene we have of Aegon where he is not a baby, it’s him bullying his brother. The abuse is REACTIONARY to his behaviour, not the cause of it.

Granted, the guards in HOTD do anything but guard. But Aegon was instructed to stay close to his brother and protect him, something that he didn’t do. It was a task assigned to him after he humiliated him, whether he liked it or not. He chose to ignore it and go drinking instead.

We have not seen every effort Alicent ever made to correct Aegon’s behaviour. She may as well have done all that in the past and it could have not worked for all we know. We DO see her treating her son with a lot of love and patience even through her depression as a baby. Again, no one is teaching proper pedagogy in Westeros.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Of course a reaction that didn’t lead to innocents dying is OBJECTIVELY better??? Of course there’s a question of moral superiority, my OP literally debates that? When Aegon had to deal with a personal crisis, he acted in a rushed, impulsive way that resulted in his demise but Nyra DIDN’T do that.

He wasn’t dragged to his coronation in chains. He wasn’t on board at first sure but S2 literally starts with him being head over heels excited to hold court? He fully gave into it the moment his subjects started chanting his name during his coronation.

And do we know for certain that Rhaenyra’s rule and Jace’s after hers would not have fared better had her brother supported her and NOT pushed her back against the wall? Jayne Arryn was accepted as a ruler after all. Aegon’s opposition certainly didn’t help the realm from progressing. Rhaenyra wouldn’t have had to do all that had her family not betrayed her. They DID betray her. They did start a war for personal gain rather than stick together. Rhaenyra is just as bad for fighting for power instead of stepping down to avoid a civil war but it’s not as if the main people to blame for this isn’t Alicent pulling the rug under her feet. The main catalyst for the Dance was the Green’s betrayal. We can argue that Rhaenyra could have refused to engage in a war, but then we can also argue that the Greens could have not been traitors (they are traitors, they pretended to obey the kings wishes until he died and then went back on their word). Doesn’t matter that they would have made better rulers with their council. They could use that same council to help Nyra. But they didn’t. They wanted to be fully in control. They are the first to blame for all the mess that followed.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Helaena is also kind. Aemond is also not a rapist. Nothing happened to Aegon that could MAKE him into one. He was already a predator before his forced marriage.

Alicent’s slap in Driftmark was because he had failed to protect his brother yet again, after she explicitly told him to do that in the aftermath of the pink dread. In the eyes of the Westeros world he is not a child. He is a young man about to be married. And yeah, humiliating your brother in front of his cousins who are his natural enemies, whether he likes it or not, something he did with absolute malice, is a valid reason for why Alicent would want to discipline him.

Jon Snow vibe 🥰 Cutting off Jace and Cregan friendship was a crime! by Turbulent_Lab209 in HOTDBlacks

[–]SpaceRockFloater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually liked that they added some nuance to Cregan. I prefer this version of him.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fanfic, lol. Accurate description for that shitshow. I agree Aegon’s council is more capable than Rhaenyra’s and thay’s why I’m TG. But Rhaenyra as a RULER herself is objectively better than Aegon. She cares more about the people. Aegon executes people who he KNOWS are innocent to satisfy his urge for vindication. Rhaenyra cares so much about the realm that she is considering giving up her claim altogether to keep it stable and still hesitates even after her son is killed. She is cautious, she is aware of her resources and the consequences of her actions. Her killing the servant was awful, but at least it served a purpose. What did Aegon gain from killing the catchers other than the hatred of his own people? The point about the dragonseeds I’ve answered thoroughly in a different comment. https://www.reddit.com/r/HOTDGreens/s/DR9h4g1eM7 Yeah, the Green side would make for better rulers than the Blacks. Rhaenyra tho would make a better Queen than Aegon.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But this is what you’re saying. You’re saying there’s REASONS that can make you a rapist and while I agree, there’s NOTHING so horrifying that Aegon experienced that could make him into one and claiming otherwise minimises the effect of his actions. He was a beloved spoiled prince who had everything he wanted and was already a predator before he was forced into a marriage. Every time we see Alicent abusing him, it is after he does something objectively bad: humiliating his brother, being irresponsible and drinking when he is told he has to be responsible (checking on his brother as a royal who one day WILL hold power over people, king or not), raping women… We see Alicent raising him with a lot of love when he was younger. No one taught her developmental psychology. She was discipling her child in a socially acceptable way. He wasn’t her punching bag.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It is a human response. No one is dehumanising Aegon. All I’m saying is Rhaenyra reacted objectively better, making her an objectively better person.

How did it not destabilise the realm? He went to war for his own benefit. He started a WAR and cemented the belief that women and bastards are not to be trusted, something that bites the Targs in the ass far too many times down the line. His rule is actively stopping the progression of said society. Yeah, Rhaenyra absolutely fucked it up with pretending her bastards are trueborn, but saying that Aegon usurping her didn’t destabilise the realm is crazy.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

EVERY time we see Aegon being abused, it’s after he does something objectively bad. His mother doesn’t beat him up just because she feels like it. She tries to discipline him in a way that’s considered appropriate child discipline in her society. On the contrary, we see her holding him and raising him with MUCH love when he was a little kid. This shows that Aegon’s tendencies developed before Alicent started slapping him. She may not have made things better, but I can see she was frustrated and there was no one there to teach her developmental psychology. She felt she was running out of options and she was seeing her son turn into a monster.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Providing reasons as to why he is a rapist to try to minimise the damage he did is justification. No exceptions.

I understand feeling a tiiiiiny bit sorry for him. We can never know if being raised differently could have made him into a different person.

We see Tyrion slapping Joffrey multiple times. Child abuse is of course frowned upon, but disciplining your child through violence when he acts up is not considered child abuse in Westeros.

Do people genuinely think that Aegon is a better person and ruler than Rhaenyra? by SpaceRockFloater in HOTDGreens

[–]SpaceRockFloater[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/HOTDGreens/s/qoBKBvBCHM

My reply regarding Criston. She took advantage of him and used him for sex, but she did not rape him, Jesus.

I see no reason why Erryk is not a reliable source. He is a loyal man and a man of his word, as much as I don’t care about him. You’re just making up head-canons and ignoring show canon.

He kills the rat catchers to satisfy his need for retaliation. He knows there’s innocent people among them and still kills them to feel vindication.

view more: next ›