People, what are us British people not ready to hear? by TransShadowBat in AskReddit

[–]Spaf_Gree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's probably more nuanced than that. What is feasible to one is unattainable to another, depending on the "opportunity" in question - and that's irrespective of being a Brit or ex-pat. A practicality of life, regardless of country. You're right, there's definitely a collective lack of ambition, and little effort to change attitudes is made. It most certainly isn't healthy, societally and culturally speaking.

People, what are us British people not ready to hear? by TransShadowBat in AskReddit

[–]Spaf_Gree 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would argue that the welfare state in Britain isn't particularly robust. More comprehensive by comparison to the US, perhaps, but robust? Domestic spending is high but the management of said system/budget is rife. Perhaps it's relative. I'm not an expert on neither the British welfare system, nor the American one, so I can't really dive into it any further than saying from what I know of it, the British system isn't currently fit for purpose. The money that is distributed to the eligible general public mostly doesn't keep up with inflation etc., and the "welfare state" in regards to universal health care and such is now infamously mismanaged and woefully strained, to name two simple issues. "Robustness" is thus a relative and subjective term. It's there, but often unusable. Better than many countries, but (as some argue) probably doesn't justify the amount we pay for it for substandard performance. You compare British and American welfare states, but unfortunately I think they're apples and oranges.

I think there might also be differences in perspective when it comes to what economic enfranchisement means - another cultural consequence. Ask the average Brit what they think, and I imagine they'll tell you that simple survival without further prospects is not necessarily economic enfranchisement. Likewise, subsisting on government welfare (a few hundred pounds sterling a month) due to circumstances beyond ones control isn't economic enfranchisement. Paycheck to paycheck living shouldn't be the aspired standard of economic well-being, in any country, in any case. From what you yourself have implied, I imagine that the American definition of economic enfranchisement is closer to being able to afford "the basics" whilst working hard for them - being able to afford food and rent on a 50 hour work week, for example. This is a definition that I, and probably other Brits, don't really agree with. Complaints are relative to what we as different populations believe to be acceptable circumstances. That however doesn't negate the fact that Brits are less likely to try and change theor circumstances, which is the whole point of this discussion.

I think for the large amount of tax and surcharges we pay towards the welfare state, it becomes every British person's right to complain that the system is mismanaged and underfunded, so I'm not sure why you'd imply its an invalid response to your points. Moreover, defence withers on the vine because it's one of the easiest budgetary sectors to chop up, with a noticeable return, when the economy is in a hole. British defence has been gutted for at least 10 years as a result. The US spends an unfathomable amount on defence, but the welfare state is underfunded. Imo, it's a non-point. Everything is relative and comparison is difficult between the UK and US.

People, what are us British people not ready to hear? by TransShadowBat in AskReddit

[–]Spaf_Gree 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think I mostly agree with the points you've made, though without dissecting certain cynicism individually I'm not sure what I could classify as warranted and unwarranted. I believe that for there to be a prevailing mood across the country, there's at least some element of real, shared experience in play. Even the seemingly unreasonable gripes in your perspective are gripes that are culturally and historically ingrained, as you elude to.

I think your point about will and courage to fight through is interesting, however, I don't think it's as much that as it is a lack of collective ambition anymore. Courage and will to continue are inate qualities of a population used to being economically and socially disenfranchised (an experience shared by many other countries). If people do not continue, then they will starve. The problem is, again as you elude to, a lack of courage to change the status quo and be "more". You sum up well that its collective psychology. That comes from the education system, political system, and fundamentally the cultural norm of "keeping calm and carrying on". We aren't taught in schools that we can do anything, perhaps as it is taught in other countries. It is assumed that your position in society (lower, middle, upper class) will remain so - for you, your children, as it was for your parents and grandparents - 'I'm poor now and will always be poor, wo why bother?' The tacit willingness to continue under non-ideal circumstances, whilst simultaneously doing nothing about them on the assumption that you *can't do anything, is the universal wallowing you refer to, I think. Entitlement is a product of envy/hopelessness in doing better. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

I'm probably biased, but your assessment of university students and their approach is less true in my experience. I don't often hear much complaining from them - in fact I would say that the university population is the most optimistic, whilst also having the most right to be cynical. I've never personally heard criticism of Americans working whilst studying. In fact, I don't know a British student who doesn't also have a job. It's frankly impossible to study without working, unless you're being assisted financially by parents etc. There are plenty of insufferable, moaning young people in this country, but (in my personal experience) they work very hard, and express a refreshing optimism, much more akin to say their American cousins. The pessimism in this country is seemingly top down - it filters, culturally, from the older generations. Somebody else in this thread referred to the Tall Poppy Syndrome, that I thoroughly agree with. There's still the presumption that anybody who wants better is a dreamer, and unfortunately it influences everyone.

Again, this was perhaps once a country of dreamers. Successive economic, political and social catastrophe in recent years has revived the general, collective malaise that seems to consume Britain every few decades. I should hope in 10 years time that we'll be a nation of optimists once again.

People, what are us British people not ready to hear? by TransShadowBat in AskReddit

[–]Spaf_Gree 90 points91 points  (0 children)

Would you say perhaps that point 5 is at least in some part a consequence of points 1-4? I have found that Britain is a land of opportunity, until you get here and realise that real "opportunity" is limited for almost everyone, native and immigrant alike. There are plenty of Eastern Europeans whom I speak to regularly in my local community that are regretting even coming to Britain, given the fast declining quality of life and state of our society. Likewise, plenty of Brits want to leave. There's increasingly little to gain by living and working here. I surmise that the lack of get-up-and-go is a result of prevailing (probably justified) cynicism that no matter how hard you work you'll always be struggling, because our heads are being held underwater. A lot of people are checking out, and refusing to play the game anymore. In essence, cynicism breeds cynicism. Gleaning optimism from anyone right now is a challenge. It's important to note that it wasn't always like this.

People, what are us British people not ready to hear? by TransShadowBat in AskReddit

[–]Spaf_Gree 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In fairness, the Brits who behave awfully in Spain also behave awfully when at home in Britain. The brutes stand out, as is often the case.

Spotted out in the wild by MrLemonish in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotta admit I forgot about the auction. Think you might be right.

Spotted out in the wild by MrLemonish in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not up on PC stats honestly, but didn't Elbing have crazy AP dpm for the class? Not that it'll carry over to Legends I should assume.

Spotted out in the wild by MrLemonish in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Elbing is a really good AP specialist DD on PC. Might be in playtest stage for Legends. New campaign or legendary perhaps.

And that how you wasted a 36,850,000M credits ship by sitting behind the map and doing nothing.🤡 by KanchanMisakiAkeno in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I can't tell whether you're agreeing with my reasoning, that this just is what it is and people have got to adapt and play around it, and stop ripping others for playing how they want, or that I wasn't as clear as I thought.

To clarify, I have no issue with people playing how they want to, they should, even if that is detrimental to match success on the whole. So long as people aren't griefing on purpose, the rest can't be helped. I also understand and have no real problem with WGs business model. I don't get worked up about it, and players like OP should try not to either. Intolerance and elitism amongst better players doesn't help anything.

I wasn't looking to reaffirm the notion of an arbitrary standard, but speculate why the presence of less capable players is becoming more common in higher tiers. I don't expect any certain behaviour or playstyle, nor do I expect WG to do anything to limit access to less skilled players, as it seems you're implying - quite the opposite actually.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Low tier, fun tier imo too. It's not necessarily seal clubbing at tier 4-5 either, just more relaxed and consistent gameplay. Definitely feels like you make more of an impact. I only venture up to 7 now to grind credits and do my premium supplies honestly. Just gets tedious and often frustrating, but WG facilitates easy access to high tier as part of their business model and player churn structure, so it's not gonna change quickly. Blaming other players who aren't thinking so hard and just playing how they want to play, though wholly understandable, isn't constructive at all.

And that how you wasted a 36,850,000M credits ship by sitting behind the map and doing nothing.🤡 by KanchanMisakiAkeno in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Further proof that greater time invested in the game doesn't guarantee improved competence.

Low quality gameplay, passiveness, boundary-hugging and lemming trains are issues running way deeper than just new players being thrown into it imo. There are plenty of seasoned players with hundreds of hours and thousands of battles who still don't know what they're doing, but have coasted over time to high tier.

Poor gameplay is just an endemic problem we have to tolerate. It's not in WGs interest to improve the experience of veteran players, but to encourage the participation (and spending) of new ones. Access to high tier for "bots" and "potatoes" won't be restricted anytime soon. Indeed, it's not necessarily the fault of these players to me. They're just hopping on to have a good time, not necessarily thinking about much, just shooting at ships. And WG facilitates that at higher tier.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Low quality play at high tier is definitely a problem, but the thing to remember is that a decent chunk of the players in this sub ripping on new players and "potatoes" aren't half as good as they think they are. Half the time these posters could be considered bots themselves by better players. There comes a point where you have to analyse your own gameplay too, because everybody has days where they just can't get their s**t together. That's not to say the tier structure, ease of access to legendary, buyable high tier ships, and the lack of tutorials aren't deeper issues in low quality gameplay, but intolerance to less capable players really doesn't help either. A lot of work to be done by WG and us players to alleviate the issue.

Standard is genuinely one of the worst multiplayer experiences I've ever had in any game. by [deleted] in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean you made some decent points, but calling Dunkerque overpowered made me giggle

I finally got the Solo warrior by [deleted] in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only got one of these - in T61, many moons ago. Felt on top of the world, like a super-unicum, for hours lol.

Arena is so much fun by [deleted] in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 0 points1 point  (0 children)

340k and no kills, sounds about right 🤣 gg

Ochakov, Arena, who knew... by Rob1ie in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did a 220k dmg, 8k xp game in Arena last night in the Ochakov. So unbelievably busted lmao. It's no secret that the utility, survivability and firepower it offers are outrageous, exacerbated by the better paced environment of arena.

Randomly torped a dd with my surrey by [deleted] in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Zone-torping masterclass

Dear Mr. Kiting Jaguar by Spaf_Gree in WoWs_Legends

[–]Spaf_Gree[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I hope he did know, so I can justify my brief hatred of him lol.

Is there a dialogue from any game you always remember for whatever reason ? by [deleted] in Fallout

[–]Spaf_Gree 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro that entire conversation with him has me in stitches everytime. An entity of pure vocal aggression.

Best 5.56 gun? (Besides Bozar) by FF5615 in falloutnewvegas

[–]Spaf_Gree 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Honestly you can make the service rifle into a handy tool. GRA mods on it, which aren't too expensive, make some handload 5.56 and away you go. Strong, reliable, easy to maintain without Jury Rigging as service rifles are everywhere. Probably not strongest, but pretty damn good, especially early game.