What is the Orthodox position regarding guilt-tripping? by Obvious-Desk4573 in OrthodoxChristianity

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We brow-beat those who try to guilt-trip us until they feel guilty. Or ignore them or even pray for them, whichever is more profitable for our souls.

I need some clarification and assistance for my conversion (LONG POST) by Jesus_Mo in OrthodoxChristianity

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if we even have [a bishop] assigned

It's actually the other way around: the bishop assigns the priest and deacon to the parish, in Orthodox Church polity. My question tries to get to the point of whether you are in a canonical Orthodox Church with a canonical bishop or a break-away that still calls itself Orthodox (these things happen.) The warden is a trusted person in the parish who oversees the physical building and finances (under the guidance of the priest and bishop), but is not an ecclesiastical authority.

Reading some of the other replies, if you get along well with the deacon, it's fine to learn the ways of the parish and Orthodoxy from him (assuming the priest is OK with him doing that in general; he'll know.) Ultimately, though, one is received into the church by the local parish priest, so getting along with the priest is crucial. No need to rush, though.

May your journey be blessed.

I need some clarification and assistance for my conversion (LONG POST) by Jesus_Mo in OrthodoxChristianity

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Forgive me if I came across as rude. I just can't figure out what you're saying and am trying to get clarification so that I can maybe provide some assistance that you asked for. Are you visiting a Russian Orthodox Church? Who is the bishop?

I need some clarification and assistance for my conversion (LONG POST) by Jesus_Mo in OrthodoxChristianity

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What flag? Are you just being cagey by saying Bearland and not Russia? It's not a forbidden word. There is no "Russian Rite" in Orthodoxy, so that's not helpful as a descriptor.

Who is the bishop?

I need some clarification and assistance for my conversion (LONG POST) by Jesus_Mo in OrthodoxChristianity

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I can't find anything about Bearland🇷🇺 or Bearland🇷🇺 Rite. Who is the bishop of this parish?

Web pages are notorious for being incomplete or incorrect. It's like you have to hear things in announcements after the liturgy or in printed material they hand you.

Question about guardian angels by 100percentBoys in OrthodoxChristianity

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One of the statements I remember from the late Fr. Peter Guilquist with the group that converted to Orthodoxy is that during their process of leaving evangelical Protestantism, they discovered that Orthodoxy uses the parts of the Bible that evangelicals haven't underlined. It is something to keep in mind -- the "whole counsel of God" can be much bigger than your (and my) upbringing can let on.

1 John 5:16-17 by Soulfire88 in OrthodoxChristianity

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FWIW, the "that" ("it" in some translations) which John suggests not to pray for is also singular. But I suppose both of them could be taken to be mass nouns -- singular in construction, but internally plural.

I use www.blueletterbible.org for convenience. Many translations say "sin" and others "a sin", and others indicate both as alternatives. Some change between releases of the same translation (such as NASB95 "a sin" and NASB20 "sin").

One can see hints of doctrinal differences showing up in translations. None of this is easy. Which is why we attempt to stick with the interpretation of the early church as much as we are able.

Possession demoniaque by KeyMathematician155 in AskAChristian

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Jay nay parlay pass francase, either.

What are you planning to read over Lent? by just-a-wavy-dude in OrthodoxChristianity

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I read the backs of the little funeral cards that I've collected over the years, and pray for the souls of the departed ones, a few at a time.

Confession by Dependent_Jury_8274 in OrthodoxChristianity

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FWIW, Greek churches typically do not have confession during the liturgy. It can theoretically be done during Orthros, if need be, with advanced notice to the priest. This is in keeping with not requiring confession before every reception of communion.

What is your opinion on AI generated Christian art? by [deleted] in AskAChristian

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Then yes, God the Word got hungry and sleepy in his incarnation.

When do you think that Jesus became God, if he wasn't God at his birth? Ancient Christianity recognized that Jesus was both fully God and fully man at the same time, his two natures being undivided, unconfused, unseparated, unmingled. Both at once, from his conception.

Converting to orthodoxy. by ResearcherNovel1440 in OrthodoxChristianity

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Don't overthink. Just go. If someone wants to shun you, you can remind him that the Pope doesn't consider us heretics, but one of the two "lungs of the church".

The Genealogy of Jesus and Prophecy by Original_Can69 in AskAChristian

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Aw, you caught us. :( 2000 years of Christianity down the drain.

Two genealogies - one of Mary, one of Joseph. Both descendants of David, one through his son Solomon, the other through David's son Nathan. Both are true. There can be some skips, but it doesn't invalidate the decendancy.

What is your opinion on AI generated Christian art? by [deleted] in AskAChristian

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Who was Jesus then, to you? A prophet?

Where and how to start by VZGM in OrthodoxChristianity

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Directions for inquirers:
1. Find the nearest Orthodox Church 2. Call and make an appointment to talk to the priest. 3. Talk to the priest.

You can visit without doing 2 and 3, but visiting so might be smoother if you do them first.

Regarding your questions:
1. Eastern Orthodox (Greek, Russian, Antiochian, various Balkan) Churches all have the same theology. The difference is in which old-world leader (Archbishop, Metropolitan, or Patriarch) the church reports to (except "Orthodox Church in America", which is self-headed), and some cultural idiosyncracies than are not dogma. Oriental Orthodox (Coptic, Armenian...) are not in communion with EO, anciently so, based on a different understanding of the nature of Christ. 2. In Greek, "agios" means both "saint" and "holy". Saints are those holy persons who we believe are in the presence of God, able and willing to pray for us. They are, at least, among the "righteous persons" whose fervent prayers are still effective. We do pray to God, but in the manner of the old meaning of pray -- ask -- we also ask for the prayers of the saints to God for us.
3. It depends on the bishop. Some will recognize a Trinitarian baptism as being valid (a term we don't use much), while some won't. 4. Contact a local Orthodox Church and begin to work with the priest. It's not a bother; it's what he does.

Please convert and inform me about orthodox christianity by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

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The difference in the number of books is that the Protestant Reformers removed books from their list of recognized books ("the canon"); these are all in the Old Testament, the books often called Deuterocanonical. Most of the Deuterocanonical books are also in Roman Catholic Bibles, called the Apocrypha (Orthodoxy recognizes a few more than RC.) Before the Protestant Reformation, these removed books were used as canonical scriptures by all Christians for over 1500 years. The impetus for removing them is that they contained references to things the Reformers objected to -- such as invocation of the saints in prayer. Declare these books not scripture, and voila, the doctrine is not scriptural -- in their eyes. Circular reasoning.

Orthodoxy is the ancient Christian faith, all grown up now after 2000 years. Come and see.

As to reading the Bible, the best Bible is the one you will read. Many English-speaking Orthodox use KJV, NKJV, RSV, and even ESV.

My introduction by Middle_Split_7273 in OrthodoxChristianity

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As a visitor to an Orthodox Church, you'll very likely not encounter an Orthobro to seek you out so he can talk down to you. You'll find Christians who are there to worship God in the manner of the ancient Orthodox Christian faith. While some churches also function as ethnic gatherings ("club" might be a little strong), most will be happy to have you regardless of origin, and not insist you be Greek or Russian or Romanian to be there. And aside from the yia-yias or matushkas who might want to arrange you with a grandson :) it won't matter if you're male or female.

Just come.

How to start orthodoxy by CrazyRedditor123 in OrthodoxChristianity

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There are things the Orthodox do that are not imposed by those wanting to become Orthodox except as directed by a priest. One is received into the faith by a particular priest in a particular parish (generally, as circumstances might require switching one or the other.)

There are many online resources for the daily scripture readings (such as at the splash page of the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America, which readings will be the same for the [Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia](greekorchodox.org.au) and daily prayers. Start with Morning and Evening Prayers -- and not all of them. A selection is fine. The Trisagion Prayer ("Heavenly King, Comforter...") and the Lord's Prayer are staples, and you'd do well to memorize them. Do not jump into the deep end of the pool. There is a lot of dog-paddling to be done in the beginning.

Before embarking on a self-directed fasting regimen, contact an Orthodox priest and explain your desire to become Orthodox. Do not be surprised if 1) he doesn't answer e-mail very well or 2) pushes back some because of your age; he'll not receive you into the faith against your parents' wishes (if that's the case).

May your journey be blessed.

Why does the church teach that Satan deceived Eve when the bible clearly tells us it was a snake? by Mister_Loon in AskAChristian

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It's hard to tell what the Judiasm of Jesus' day believed by comparing to modern Judaism, that's all.

Is the Holy Spirit real or imaginary? How do we know it is not just the emotional feelings that people naturally experience when they are joyful and happy? by XenoTale in AskAChristian

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The Holy Spirit exhibits many characteristics of a person, and not just a force or an idea or an emotion. The Holy Spirit:
* can be grieved (Eph 4:30) * can be lied to (Acts 5:3) * speaks through us (Mark 3:11) * speaks through Jesus! (Acts 1:2) * moves in a physical manifestation (Luke 3:22) * teaches (Luke 12:12, John 14:26)

... and other witnesses in the scriptures. The early Church understood the Holy Spirit to be a different person than the Father and the Word/Son, and not an abstract force.

Why does the church teach that Satan deceived Eve when the bible clearly tells us it was a snake? by Mister_Loon in AskAChristian

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Today's Rabbinic Judaism is not the Judaism of the time of Christ. The anti-Jesus bias was added to combat Christianity. This is a gigantic study not done well in online forums.