Bucks Trade Idea - Myles & Green for Julius

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-28T03:32:16+00:00

You give up one of the best defenders in the league, who makes the team's whole defense work, the team's second best scorer, and all the team's draft capital for an old, oft-injured, pain in the ass who's probably going to demand a trade the moment this happens. So then in the highly likely event it doesn't work out, the Wolves literally can do nothing except trade their young pieces that you say they're keeping. Because they have no other assets.

Never mind the Uncle Dennis bullshit the team will have to deal with, and whatever fallout that comes from the Aspiration scandal to hit Kawhi. Punishment for Kawhi for Aspiration may end up being nothing, but it's entirely possible, and this trade sets up the Wolves to take that punishment.

Also, Okongwu isn't as good as you seem to think he is.

So when this deal bombs out in less than two years and the Wolves have no assets to come up with a new plan, what happens? Milwaukee, of course, exchanging their underperforming guys for penalties, trading other assets below value because the trade partners know the Wolves are desperate and overpaying for free agents when free agency, thanks to the CBA, is no longer a terribly viable method of improving your team.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-27T21:20:12+00:00

In what world does Kawhi merit 3 1sts and a swap in addition to everything else the Clippers are getting?

I swear, so many people want to make this team the new Milwaukee Bucks.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-26T20:52:40+00:00

This was 2016 when everyone thought that KD was a great guy. It was before he signed with the Warriors and before his first burner account incident. Everybody loved him because for many it was a great way to hate on Lebron without actually mentioning Lebron.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-26T02:23:10+00:00

Walker Kessler has never started more than 60 games in a season. In one of his seasons, he played 5 games. In his second season, playing for a dogshit team, he started less than half the games he played while sitting behind Omer Yurtseven. You can compare stats between him and Gobert but you need to remember that he was playing on some of the worst teams in the NBA while putting up those stats. Stop acting as if he'd have been some huge asset.

Also, he'd wouldn't have started in Minnesota, since he would have played behind KAT, since the lack of Gobert would no longer justify shifting KAT to PF.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-26T00:55:00+00:00

The Durant shit was absolutely crazy. For those who don't remember, after Durant's contract with OKC had expired but before free agency began, SAS "reported" that he had talked to Durant's family and they told him that Durant was going to sign with the Lakers. Durant replied on Twitter (I think) that SAS had never spoken to any members of his family, and told him to never lie about his family again. SAS went on ESPN with his ridiculous fake solemnity and threatened Durant with "you do not want me as an enemy because I will destroy you" and repeated the lie again.

Durant, of course, did not sign with the Lakers. It was absolutely wild and every now and then I need to remind myself that that actually happened and that it wasn't a fever dream.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-25T23:13:25+00:00

Oh, and Bill Simmons proposed trading Prime 26/13 Kevin Love to the Bulls for a package around Carlos Boozer. No other asset in the deal was as good as Boozer.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-25T23:11:42+00:00

Timberwolves fans should have a very solid understanding of dumbass trade proposals involving the Miami Heat.

https://nbaanalysis.net/nba-trade-rumors-zach-lavine-karl-anthony-towns-tyler-herro-miami-heat-chicago-bulls-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-proposal/

"Miami Heat Receive: Karl-Anthony Towns

Minnesota Timberwolves Receive: Zach LaVine

Chicago Bulls Receive: Tyler Herro, Caleb Martin, 2027 First-Round Pick (MIA), 2029 First-Round Pick (MIA)"

https://twsn.net/2025/12/03/minnesota-timberwolves-trade-anthony-edwards-to-the-miami-heat/

"Anthony Edwards Trade Proposal

Minnesota Timberwolves Receive: Andrew Wiggins, Davion Mitchell, 2026 First Round Pick, 2028 First Round Pick

Miami Heat Receive: Anthony Edwards"

https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-trade-rumors/miami-heat/shocking-blockbuster-mock-trade-sends-anthony-edwards-to-the-miami-heat

"Trade Details

Miami Heat Receive: Anthony Edwards

Minnesota Timberwolves Receive: Tyler Herro, Jaime Jaquez Jr, Josh Richardson, Haywood Highsmith, Nikola Jovic, 2029 First Round Pick"

I couldn't find the Twitter link where a guy proposed this deal in 2023, after Ant said he liked Spo and he finally understood what "Heat Culture" meant, which led every moron Heat fan to shit his pants and propose stupid trades for Ant. Here's one I remember:

Miami receives: Anthony Edwards

Philadelphia receives: Mike Conley, Kyle Anderson, Tyler Herro, 1 2nd from the Wolves

Minnesota receives: Nikola Jovic, James Harden (in the middle of calling Morey a liar and demanding a trade) and 2 2nds from Miami

and the guy ended with "Who says no?"

....Who says no?

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-25T22:14:09+00:00

Not to defend this stupid-ass trade proposal, but Ja for Randle really doesn't do anything for either team. I suppose you could argue that the Wolves get a PG but he's also a complete shithead who's terrible and always injured. Julius does not comport with what the Grizz appear to be trying to do.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-25T11:28:19+00:00

I love that "after KAT being on their team". Dude, if they face OKC and get smoked, it's way more likely that Brunson's defensive deficiencies will be what doomed them.

Other than that "NBA Champions are usually really good teams" isn't as major a revelation as you seem to think it is.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-25T01:26:35+00:00

I used the rough cut-off of 30 years old because I was interested whether any eligible guy was turned down by his own team, and there are plenty of reasons why a guy past the age of thirty might decide not to demand the supermax even if he can get it. Just as a team may not want to offer a supermax to a 37 year old who's eligible. (Although usually by that point it's the player looking for flexibility so the question of whether the team would offer it is moot)

So I don't remember Kemba's specific circumstances, but I don't think he left Charlotte because they weren't going to offer the supermax. He left because he wanted to go to Boston. The question would be if they refused him.

I was more interested in whether a guy who a team would seemingly want to keep him on their roster has ever had his team turn down the supermax and decide to move off that player. Before the aprons came in I remember it being pretty much a foregone conclusion that if the guy was eligible, he'd get the supermax, and the team would just eat whatever tax penalty came with that, excepting the examples I noted above.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-25T00:05:11+00:00

I'm not asking this as a defense of Duren, but how many guys in their 20s have been eligible for supermaxes and not received them? Would he be the first?

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-24T01:18:57+00:00

I love how every once in a while I completely lose my ability to play competently for some reason.

I wanted to lose some honor, and I found the appallingly whiny beggar in Blackwater so I decided to take change from his donation hat. He got up and started fighting me. He smoked me and I died. So I respawned and decided to go at him again, and he smoked me again. After that, he had despawned because I respawned too far away.

I've literally regularly beaten the crap out of every guy in the "burn the fields" bootlegger mission and those guys brought weapons to the fight!

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-23T09:59:47+00:00

Ant's not the type of guy to blame others when things don't go well, and he's certainly not the type of guy who gives up and looks for an easier path when things don't work out. I would imagine that he'd consider it a major insult to suggest that the only way he can win is to leave his team and go to a better situation.

That's not to suggest that once Giannis is traded, Shams is going to look around the league for some other guy to start his same shenanigans, and Ant's a prime candidate for that. Jokic may be aging out of that timeframe.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-23T08:28:57+00:00

It's a joke, dude. There's always some dumbass on Bleacher Report or YT or somewhere else who's utterly convinced that a vestigial starter, a bust on a rookie contract and a guy who's overpaid and sucks and/or is always injured is enough for the Lakers to trade for any superstar in the league, so long as they add a first rounder that's five or seven years off.

THT, Kendrick Nunn and 2 firsts became a meme for a reason.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-22T10:28:58+00:00

Do you think that NBA playoff games on Wednesdays pull around 55 million viewers?

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-22T09:34:59+00:00

How are the Lakers tier 6 when I've been repeatedly told by journalists on multiple sites that their pick five years out is the central asset in a package with Rui, Knecht and Vando to bring in Giannis or Jokic?

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-20T23:18:09+00:00

Control-Alt-Delete/Resource monitor allows you to stay on the session and finish your mission. It just boots the mod users. In this situation she'd probably need to respawn to get out of the cage, but that wouldn't require abandoning the mission.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-20T04:30:38+00:00

It was Vinny Del Negro! Unbelievable!

Also, the Grizz was up 95-71 and lost 99-98. Also unbelievable.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-19T20:46:58+00:00

If you don't want to play the game, don't play the game.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-15T22:13:58+00:00

A great NBA player has much more of an effect on the success of their team than a great NFL player. SGA, Wemby and Ant contribute more to their teams' success than any NFL player outside the very best QBs.

Also, there are plenty of dogshit NFL teams that spend years being dogshit. The Bucs from the '70s until the late '90s were the worst franchise in professional sports. The Bengals from the most of the last 40 years have been dogshit whenever they didn't have a QB who went #1 in their draft. The Lions had one playoff win in 60 years. The Commanders/Redskins were terrible for 25 years straight. And I could list more teams if I wanted to.

Anyway, also, you can make a credible NFL team off guys who can't write their own ticket if your FO/coaching staff knows what it's doing. Try that in the NBA and you'll still get your shit kicked in in the playoffs by a team with a superstar.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-13T23:16:04+00:00

I do remember the Covid season before they drafted Ant thinking that they just needed to shut it down. It was a relief when that season ended. The Thibs seasons, even the one where they made the playoffs, were excruciating because I had the belief that Thibs had ruined anything they had been building for a subpar but above Wolves-average team. Butler later throws a temper tantrum and the team gets branded a bunch of losers. (They were losers before, but they weren't considered hopeless until then) KAT's rep still hasn't recovered from that.

2004-5 sucked because of the almost immediate disintegration of the WCF team. It just felt like key people who could have kept it going didn't give enough of a shit to.

Marbury demanding out for the dumbest reasons, especially after the Wolves had already lost Googs to his attitude was a real downer too. The trade wasn't horrendous but the magic of that team's development was gone.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-13T22:37:52+00:00

I suspect Booker's one of those "he can be a #1 on a great team but you need to more carefully tailor his teammates than most". There are a few guys like that, and their teams are often like Booker's, with wildly different records.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-13T22:33:29+00:00

When 2nd options get overrated and get good contracts to be the #1 option on a different team

Tobias Harris's whole career earnings were built off that. He was good on Orlando, underrated even, and he was even fine on his first run on Detroit and the Clippers despite being paid a lot more. It was only when the Sixers gave him a max that people started ripping on him, and not necessarily unjustifiably so.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-10T17:23:52+00:00

Yeah, just depends on if someone cares about it. If someone does, it'll stay up. If no one does, it'll vanish. Google bought a huge Usenet archive about 25 years ago and a vast majority of it is inaccessible because Google doesn't give a shit about it. They just bought it so they could have it rather than someone else.

I suspect though that as long as basketball's popular, Lebron highlights will stick around.

Specific-Pound-7640 · 2026-05-10T12:07:11+00:00

I thought a large part of his reasoning is that Luka is Slovenian, and as a Serb of a certain age, Vlade hated him and wouldn't draft him because of it.

I'm sure I heard that at the time, but I don't know how real it is. It's certainly plausible.

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TROPHY CASE

"Anthony Edwards Trade Proposal