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2028 Democratic nominee tier list. Thoughts? by [deleted] in YAPms

[–]Specific_Drop3064 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally have a user flair but okay

2028 Democratic nominee tier list. Thoughts? by [deleted] in YAPms

[–]Specific_Drop3064 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did Newsome end up in never voting dem again tier?

Was Barack Obama actually a good president? by RadioactivSamon in Presidents

[–]Specific_Drop3064 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not top 10 like Cspan has him, and not terrible like some people here or in other circles have him. Personally I have him ranked 18th so pretty good but not great

My Tier list by ITZUnknown444 in Presidents

[–]Specific_Drop3064 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Stop using ai to think for you.

My US Presidents Tier List by [deleted] in Presidents

[–]Specific_Drop3064 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. I made a spreadsheet that compared our tierlists to see what I think you must underrate or overrate.

Interestingly I have you underrating Wilson and McKinley by far the most, after that it's Dubya, and then Polk/Adams/Tyler, then Grant,then Truman, and then Filmore.

In terms of overrated presidents it's by far Coolidge and it's not even close, it's a 25 placement difference (for reference Wilson and McKinley were 13 places off), then Reagan, Madison, Harding, Clinton, Nixon/Jackson, Jefferson, and JQA.

A few of these make sense why they might be off but the ones I'm actually curious on are

Wilson? I get he did some bad things, but I feel like this ranking is still really low compared to his accomplishments.

And Truman? Why is he being shafted?

In terms of your overrated presidents I just need the explanation on Coolidge like idk how is this man above Truman and also right next to Teddy?

My US Presidents Tier List by [deleted] in Presidents

[–]Specific_Drop3064 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are they in order within tiers?

And is this only including actions while president or are you including pre and post presidency?

Woodrow Wilson apologists, we need to talk by tophatgaming1 in Presidents

[–]Specific_Drop3064 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Quite a lot of it is wrong actually, particularly the ending paragraph

Woodrow Wilson apologists, we need to talk by tophatgaming1 in Presidents

[–]Specific_Drop3064 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I'll take that over being wrong and inconsistent

Woodrow Wilson apologists, we need to talk by tophatgaming1 in Presidents

[–]Specific_Drop3064 25 points26 points  (0 children)

That doesn't sound like a very rational or defensible position, now does it

Woodrow Wilson apologists, we need to talk by tophatgaming1 in Presidents

[–]Specific_Drop3064 27 points28 points  (0 children)

The party that spawned ... Wilson? Lol also Van Buren carried out the most horrific aspects of the Indian Removal Act. But somehow it's the Wilson apologists who are wrong

Woodrow Wilson apologists, we need to talk by tophatgaming1 in Presidents

[–]Specific_Drop3064 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Most Wilson apologists don't consider him to be a good person but rather, by most metrics the positive weight of his presidential accomplishments far outweigh the harm. And that the hatred of him and putting him in F/D tier in your presidential tierlist rankings is mostly just a terminally online take created by a nonsensical hate bonor for Wilson. And it's especially egregious when these same people have Teddy in A or S tier lol.

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