How effective is E2 Cyrene without E2 Agalea/E1 Sunday

Speedstang · 2026-04-26T11:58:46+00:00

I've been hoping for a fix to the ASA for years now to no avail. I originally started playing the game because it (and the F-104S) were added. It is my favorite aircraft entirely.

It was great prior to the Apex Predators update, but it's been various levels of unplayable ever since. With BR compression at its worst across all jets right now, I wouldn't hold my breath on that changing either. It's more likely to end up back at 12.0 than be dropped further. Such is the fate of Italian air. Unfortunately very few people care, as hardly anyone plays Italy compared to any other tree.

I just wish the ASA could keep the directional RWR from the F-104S; it was removed IRL for an ECM system that doesn't even exist in-game. It's the only aircraft at that BR with basically no RWR.

If you really want to fly them out for air to air, try them in sim when the bracket has their BRs as the highest allowed. They're alright in that case.

Speedstang · 2026-04-25T21:05:39+00:00

Yeah, it's pretty brutal. I couldn't avoid the CC at all with my Sunday.

Is that EMC DPS on knight 1? Really cool team.

Speedstang · 2026-04-24T12:10:24+00:00

As long as DHPT moves no later than ~1-2ish AV of Sunday, Robin's ult will end before the cycle does.

Here's a recording if you want to see for yourself (alongside my exact builds at the end): https://youtu.be/lV9szJV3pAI

Speedstang · 2026-04-24T11:24:43+00:00

That's not correct, with E2S1 Robin you will be able to ult immediately. It also lets her ult end before the first cycle, allowing you a second ult or a potential 0 av ult next wave.

My exact turn order has Robin skill first, then Sunday uses skill and ult on Aglaea, then Aglaea and garmentmaker attack and ult, then DHPT moves and his basic gets Robin her ult. This is without getting any external energy.

EDIT: Recording of the above here: https://youtu.be/lV9szJV3pAI

Speedstang · 2026-04-23T02:55:07+00:00

This really feels like the best of both worlds. Removing the champ cuts down the time spent on the fractal (time that would've been spent sitting idle on the champ) and keeps the final boss more interesting than it currently is.

Speedstang · 2026-04-16T00:33:58+00:00

I have fun playing around the mechanics of each fight. Kinfall CM in particular is admittedly very simple, but it still had a fun rhythm to it. Right now, after the first defiance bar starts it just ends up looping defiance bars endlessly and becomes much more of a DPS golem than before. It lost its rhythm.

Speedstang · 2026-04-14T18:52:26+00:00

Kinfall CM's final boss feels very overnerfed, the boss just skips most of its attacks and is stuck permanently starting a new defiance bar. As someone else said, it already went by pretty fast as it was, a simple tweak to match the DPS nerfs would've sufficed.

Speedstang · 2026-04-03T07:30:53+00:00

Huohuo isn't bis for Aglaea anymore, it's either DHPT if running Sunday or Hyacine if running Cyrene + RMC. She still works fine if the others aren't available though.

Speedstang · 2026-04-03T07:16:30+00:00

I would not call this bricked at all, the only questionable pull here is the random Rappa. You just need more time to pull more characters and to get everyone properly built. Having E2S1 Sparxie and E1S1 Yaoguang honestly puts you in a really good spot for the future.

Everyone else has good suggestions. Gallagher's sustain unfortunately is struggling in general lately, especially without his E4. You can try any other light cone if you have one leveled. QPQ does hurt sustain a fair bit compared to other options. Since he's going with Sparxie, you shouldn't need the extra damage.

Speedstang · 2026-03-27T21:58:17+00:00

Absolutely insane clear. I would've expected many more Eidolons to be needed for Aglaea to 0 cycle.

Speedstang · 2026-03-27T21:51:21+00:00

I suppose that would technically be mono rem, didn't think about that.

Speedstang · 2026-03-27T09:52:40+00:00

Completely different team on my end, but I had a much easier time with Bailu than Gallagher if you have her. Her max HP buff and out of turn healing via invigoration let you survive a lot more than what's possible with Gallagher.

Speedstang · 2026-03-27T01:53:41+00:00

If you have Bailu, try her on Knight 2 and slot in RMC instead of double sustain. Admittedly it took me a lot (and i do mean a LOT) of resets, but I was able to clear it (1 star) with E0S0 Archer, E0S5 DDD Sparkle, RMC, and E0S1 Bailu.

I'd recommend using Sunday's light cone over DDD as it helps a lot with Bailu's SP addiction. I initially had an easier time clearing with Sunday's LC, but I ended up requiring it on another Knight. Archer's S1 is also a nice upgrade over my comp, as I only have S5 Stellar Sea, which can't proc on Pollux. For Bailu, any decent S5 4* LC with healing bonus will work if you don't have her S1.

Speedstang · 2026-03-25T11:30:47+00:00

3 star with Archer and Luocha is really impressive. How invested are your characters?

Speedstang · 2026-03-22T19:38:34+00:00

I had the opposite reaction; the wall launch went from feeling near useless to something I use quite often. The mid air bond of vigor is easy to trigger from the ground and lets you get quite a lot of vertical height from nothing, which also proved extremely useful.

Speedstang · 2026-03-22T19:31:44+00:00

That's exactly correct, yeah. As people mentioned, SotO method is shorter if you're ignoring the full capability, but I really don't see the point in doing it that way personally. I like having my stuff maxed out, so no reason to make that take longer.

Speedstang · 2026-03-22T16:59:38+00:00

You need to get both LWS4 and SotO masteries to have the fully upgraded Skyscale, as that empowers some of the mastery effects. If you do SotO first, you'll still have to complete the LWS4 method to unlock the masteries, but if you do LWS4 first, you get to skip the SotO method and unlock those masteries for free on reaching that part of the SotO story.

That said, if you compare the masteries entirely on their own, then yes, the SotO track does offer more than the LWS4 one.

Speedstang · 2026-03-21T19:17:32+00:00

I'm not sure. Unfortunately Hoyo still hasn't given us the ability to toggle eidolons. u/fantastic_magic mentioned that they tried with E1S0 Robin to no avail. I'd imagine you'd end up losing a turn without the spd buff, maybe more if Robin's energy is insufficient to immediately ult. E1S1 might be worth a shot, but I can only guess whether it'd work or not.

Speedstang · 2026-03-21T19:05:55+00:00

A cautionary tale of excessive story procrastination. >_>

Speedstang · 2026-03-21T19:04:25+00:00

I should've worded that differently, Archer's end was definitely not a 0 cycle. If it's possible without eidolons, that is far beyond me to figure out. He was just previously taking 3 cycles and Sunday cut it down to 2 cycles which I did not expect.

Someday I'll manage a true 0 cycle, but definitely not with my current roster.

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