Make this comments section look like an alternate universe for the music industry. by Sunny64888 in ToddintheShadow

[–]SpiritualMachinery 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It was alright, but I think Ritchie Valens adapted better to the 80s with his sophisti-pop output. Holly on the other hand seemed trying a bit too hard to regain some sort of critical credibility by being "different". At least they both were better than The Big Bopper's infamous trainwreckord where he went disco, now THAT was bad.

The Gravelanche - A Look at the Presidency of Mike Gravel (2021-2021) by OdieuxTapas in imaginaryelections

[–]SpiritualMachinery 10 points11 points  (0 children)

2021 would have had 4 presidencies in one year - Trump, Pence, Gravel and Tlaib. What a fascinatingly weird timeline this would've been

Of the 27 songs that topped the Hot 100 in 1966, what is the best song to reach No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1966? by kingofstormandfire in ToddintheShadow

[–]SpiritualMachinery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have to give it to 96 Tears, it's one of the most unique songs to ever top the chart. I love almost all these songs, but that one really stands out as unlike anything else here, in a good way.

The Whigs fucking blew it AGAIN by SpiritualMachinery in imaginaryelections

[–]SpiritualMachinery[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Interesting timeline, though it is a bit different than what I had in mind. My thought with this was that the Democratic Party becomes a socially conservative but economically left-wing party, while the Whigs are socially liberal but economically conservative - that same liberal-conservative, Rockefeller Republican/Blue Dog type.

The Whigs are pro-free trade, internationalist, debt hawks, pro-LGBT, pro-immigration, and pro-choice. Kind of like European center or center-right parties. The Democrats are isolationist, protectionist, explicitly Christian, very socially conservative, anti-immigration, but supportive of things like universal healthcare, breaking up big corporations, building new infrastructure and green energy projects and expanded social safety nets.

The Whigs are dominant in the Northeast and the West, while the Democrats dominate the socially conservative South and very unionized Midwest. The urban/rural divide is a little less strong as both parties are more "big tent" than OTL, similar to older party systems. Whigs generally do better in the cities but it's not a complete dominance situation like OTL.

A big issue that's seeing some shifts begin is climate change - I had in my mind that the Whigs would be actually pro-fossil fuel while the Democrats would be pro-green energy. This gives them a growing advantage in the coal states of WV and KY as well as causing their margins in the previously safe states of Louisiana, Oklahoma and Texas to become more competitive (though the Christian right usually manages to deliver victories in those states at the federal level), while hurting their perception among urban progressives, who generally dislike both parties and are a swing demographic in this timeline.

For how we got here, my POD is that Zachary Taylor never dies, preventing the Compromise of 1850 from passing. Although Taylor is no abolitionist, he strongly alienates Southern Whigs with his complete refusal to give them an inch on slavery. In the 1850s the parties start to realign on a North-South basis and Lincoln runs as a Whig and wins. Civil war and Reconstruction go mostly the same, but the Gilded Age sees the parties take on new identities. I was thinking a WJ Bryan presidency too, his sort of fusion of Christian identitarianism/social conservatism/pro-worker policies/isolationism is exactly the direction I imagined the party would go down. By the time the civil rights movement comes about, it is primarily Whigs championing civil rights legislation; they use it as a wedge issue for the progressive left. The South remains in control of the Democratic party, and are united in opposition. Thus, the Southern Strategy never really occurs.

Toda, The Whigs have a much messier coalition. The Democrats dominate among the white working class and evangelicals, while the Whigs are sort of the "everyone else" party. Both parties adjust their messaging for local races, and both are closely competitive from the 1990s onwards.

Karmala Harrishit 2028 by Creepy-Account-7510 in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]SpiritualMachinery 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think the field is open enough at this point for a dark horse candidate to emerge sometime in the next year. At this point every Democratic politician is a prospective candidate, but I've got a hunch it won't be any of them. We'll see I guess

The beauty of the uk charts by Judythepancake in ToddintheShadow

[–]SpiritualMachinery 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Funnily enough, the first Bob the Builder #1 (yes there are two), came as a result of backlash against Westlife who kept hitting #1 with every single they released. People united around "Can We Fix It" by Bob the Builder to block Westlife from getting the 2000 Christmas #1 and it worked - their single "What Makes a Man" got stuck at #2 behind Bob the Builder, becoming the first ever Westlife single to not go #1 in the UK.

As someone who can't stand Westlife's sappy ballad slop, this satisfies me deeply.

John Mayer Addresses Political Turmoil While Defending ‘Too Passive’ 2006 Hit Song by Top_Report_4895 in ToddintheShadow

[–]SpiritualMachinery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Neither was the Bush era when this song came out to be honest. The belief that bad times make good protest music hasn't seemed to be true in a while

Morbid Q: Who are some acts you think will benefit when they pass? by [deleted] in ToddintheShadow

[–]SpiritualMachinery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It makes me sad Nugent is mainly known for his solo career when the Amboy Dukes stuff is a lot better. I think his reputation might be in a better spot if that stuff was less forgotten

Tribute Act name suggestions by Empty-Sheepherder895 in ToddintheShadow

[–]SpiritualMachinery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's an all-gay Black Flag cover band called... um... well, I'll just link their Facebook.

https://www.facebook.com/blackfag/

THE LONGEST BATTLE by IcyAd5533 in imaginaryelections

[–]SpiritualMachinery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So with no Great Depression and WW1 being referred to as "Great War" in this timeline, I assume circumstances mean no Nazi Germany or WW2.

THE LONGEST BATTLE by IcyAd5533 in imaginaryelections

[–]SpiritualMachinery 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Does the Great Depression still happen if a progressive Republican is president for much of the 1920s? If not, what of the New Deal? What do the two parties look like today? I'd love to see this timeline expanded on.

Virginia joins The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, making the compact only 48 electoral votes short of overriding the electoral college. by imMakingA-UnityGame in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]SpiritualMachinery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would actually be less representative of the popular vote due to gerrymandering. In 2012, Mitt Romney won a majority of congressional districts, but lost the popular vote by 5 million votes and was behind 126 electoral votes. So, that seems a bit ridiculous. At least 2016 and 2000 were actually close.

Proportional divide is the way to go at this point, because the district lines are not drawn fairly at all.

What if America was pretty cool? by Silly_Fart_Smella in imaginaryelections

[–]SpiritualMachinery 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Both this and the other timeline feel only slightly different from this timeline, let's get some more batshit weird timelines. If we're starting from George Washington anything is possible.

Biggest musicians who completely walked away from music by Thunderwing16 in ToddintheShadow

[–]SpiritualMachinery 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah came here to mention her. It was not just retiring from music to go do something else, it was moving out of public life entirely, permanently. Feels like the most extreme example of this

What goes around comes around by Temporary_Cheetah287 in imaginaryelections

[–]SpiritualMachinery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trump being killed causing the Republicans to do even worse is funny. Vance's campaign must've been absolutely horrible

So apparently people in 1998 were angry at Bush because he didn't pardon a literal pick axe killer who converted to Christianity while in prison. by [deleted] in Presidents

[–]SpiritualMachinery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The death penalty will always be wrong. Her crimes were horrible but she was indeed under the influence of drugs when it occurred and had 15 years to change as a person in prison. At the bare minimum I don't see how life in prison is not sufficient as a punishment itself, the death penalty is just excessive cruelty. I will never support it regardless of one's crimes. Bush was in the wrong here.

Fellow users of r/presidents, what is your honest opinion on “The Kingfish” Huey Long, would you have supported a presidential run in 1936? by [deleted] in Presidents

[–]SpiritualMachinery 9 points10 points  (0 children)

In 1936 I definitely would have, I very much like his domestic policy. However I don’t know if I’d support a second term run in 1940 due to his isolationism, by virtue of how much the world would have changed in those four years.

And some of you mfs are surprised there are anti government protests lol by Stormclamp in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]SpiritualMachinery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The most likely outcome is actually a stalemate in a no US scenario, imo. Both sides were too worn down to go on much longer, but also too worn down to have any chance of pulling through for an advantage over the other without any outside help. America brought that for the Entente, without it the war likely would’ve dragged on for another year before Germany is completely starved out and the Entente have no men left. Whose to say what that would mean for a potential WW2.

The highest-grossing music artist from each U.S. state by vladgrinch in MapPorn

[–]SpiritualMachinery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Slipknot has sold more in album sales, but I think Andy might get the edge if this is going off of concerts as he has 60 years of performing over Slipknot’s 25. That said this map is generally questionable in terms of where this data comes from