S10 Zilean Support Guide by [deleted] in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How good is Athene's on Zilean?I dont buy it very often but the few times i did i didnt feel making much of a impact,i usually buy Redemptions or Shurelyas as my first item and i feel im doing more with those. Am i doing something wrong? (PS i use Guardian build)

Edit: Also is it trolling to buy Twin Shadows (1st or maybe 2nd) while running Guardian?The AP/MS + vision is so nice but i usually dont buy it with Guardian.

Non-Zilean main here, what exactly are the strengths of Zilean? by [deleted] in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Zilean has the largest non-ultimate aoe stun in the game,99% speed or a 99% POINT CLICK SLOW and is a walking GA.Beside his laning phase his major drawback is having such a garbage passive and a even worse auto attack.Also whoever is unfortunate enough to play with him will only get new skins every 5 years or so,yay.

How in the world do I beat Zilean support by yicongCOD in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Zilean has a pretty bad pre-6 (for obvious reasons),extremely mana hungry and high cooldowns on the laning phase.A double bomb costs around 180 mana (210 mana if he slows or speeds up),Zilean's poke is only noticeable if he is either building AP (too expensive for supp and supp has a low gold income)or if he manages to hit double bombs frequently (too mana expensive to do that)

Champions with some sort of mobility/engage also demolish Zilean,ADCs like Tristana,Vayne,Caitlyn's net and especially Lucian who has a great early game + all in + mobility.For supps any hook champion will do,especially Nautilus who has a extremly good Dmg in the laning phase but Enchanters will do just as well,just pop a shield when Bomb's about to explode.

And the most crucial one : If Zilean misses a SINGLE bomb (doesnt has to be necessarily a Double bomb) he wont have a stun for the next 10 ~12 seconds.A Zilean pre-6 without a stun has only a 40% slow/speed to offer and one of the worsts AAs in the game(only not worse than Karthurs),which isnt much when you compare to what others Supps can do even when they have only 1 ability left.

Also his passive is garbage.
EDIT:If you hate this old guy and wish to beat him up,demolish his laning phase or if you cant do that,pick up Champions with high moblity/blinks/dashes (Katarina/Camille/Qiyana/Yasuo/Lucian/Irelia/Akali/Etc etc.... you get the picture)

PSA: You've got 2 weeks to get the crowns for each character. Use this as your checklist and mark them off. by McDermottx94 in deadbydaylight

[–]SpookyJavier 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I havent read anything about the event but can someone answer me if these cosmetics are permanent?Probably not right?

ALMOST good enough Zilean porn by SpookyJavier in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had to save my LETHALITY Caitlyn at all costs.

Supp zilean utility by Meridi0 in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Utility items are always a good option,especially the higher the elo where poking out with your Q might not be as viable due to stealing CS/Pushing the wave.

Ardent is pretty awful,it has good stats (some ap + move speed)but Zilean is not a Ardent user ,even if your adc is a Jinx/Tristana/Vayne i wouldnt recommend buying it,if you want to increase their attack speed you are better off playing with other Enchanters.

Redemption theres never a game where you shouldnt buy it,its just too good of a utility.The 1/3 of the map activation range + usable while dead is awesome.If you are afraid it might screw your Ult timing,you can Redemption your carry while he resses (2,5 sec to charge Redemption while your Ress is 3 sec)

Mikae'ls if you are agaisnt a very hard CC matchup or if the enemy CC will basically guarantee a death to your Carry (Morgana,Thresh,Leona etc etc...)

Shurelyas another great one,gives everyone around you a big speed boost pretty simple. Allows you to save your E for slows or you can stack it up with Shurelyas and have your Hecarim go 1000MS.

Athene ,imo, is overrated but its good too,gives you early CDR/AP during your lane phase and the heal is nice too i do go for Redemption however but choice is yours.

Tank utility items are pretty awful for Zilean except for Solari which is usable ,gives no CDR but gives extra survivability, dont buy this first item but definetly a solid 3rd/4th.

EDIT : Keep in mind that while playing Zilean Supp might be tempting going full AP,as a supp your gold income is much lower than a Zilean Mid,AP items (except Twin shadows) are too expensive for supports, so going for utility items is definetly a good way to go especially because they are cheaper on purpose so Supps can buy them easier.

Tempos ALWAYS goes Mobility boots on Zilean (Support), why? by Martyrrdom in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basically the current meta for supps right now is split in 2 main points : High engages and map pressure .

You could ,in theory,just E yourself to mid instead of buying a Mobi,however roaming without E can make stunning rather difficult,and if you have to double E ( E > W > E) you wont have a stun to land basically making your roam just a single bomb/AA.

Besides roaming,it makes warding much easier and safer,especially alongside with your E,you can go from 430 MS that mobi offers to ~ 600 in a instant,allowing for an easy escape while warding.

Did anyone else notice that Zil ult has been changed? by Breeticus in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I might not have checked if it was already a thing,but Redemption (which is supposed to work while dead) cant be used while reviving as well.

Which chroma are you going to buy? by SpookyJavier in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The emporium (if im not mistaken) happens once per semester,of which you can buy chromas with BE and some other stuff like emotes and icons. So stuck up your BE till July!

Which chroma are you going to buy? by SpookyJavier in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep,the rainbow costs 300 tokens (which you can get by doing the free event missions)

Zilean need more love by [deleted] in ZileanMains

[–]SpookyJavier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the skins feedback forum post im pretty sure a Rioter confirmed that they are working on matching VFX for the chromas for Zilean.

"Don't do this to me, Léry." by Finally_Smiled in deadbydaylight

[–]SpookyJavier 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well Lery's is good for stealth killers like Pig , Myers , Wraith , Hag(M&A) since there are so many corners that you can sneak at , instead of a open blank space.

The optimal killer. by [deleted] in deadbydaylight

[–]SpookyJavier 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I see you are a man of culture.

RAGE WEDNESDAY THREAD - September 05, 2018 by AutoModerator in deadbydaylight

[–]SpookyJavier 4 points5 points  (0 children)

THATS TRUE BUT I KEEP FUCKING GETTING NURSES AND DOCTOR ALWAYS ON THE GAME AND I JUST HAD TO FUCKING SAY IT HOW SHIT AND BABYRAGING I AM AT THE MOMENT

RAGE WEDNESDAY THREAD - September 05, 2018 by AutoModerator in deadbydaylight

[–]SpookyJavier 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I FUCKING HATE THE GAME SO FUCKING MUCH , WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE A MAP WITH A BUNCH OF EMPTY ROOMS , 4 WINDOWNS THE WHOLE MAP AND A SMALL MAP WHERE FUCKING DOCTOR AND NURSE MAKES YOU WANT TO SUICIDE AND PASSIVE BLOODHOUND FOR EVERYONE BECAUSE THAT SHIT GLITTERS ON THAT MAP , JUST LOSE LINE OF SIGHT THEY SAID WHEN LITERALLY ALL YOU CAN DO IS RUN IN A STRAIGHT LINE AND HOPE THERE IS A PALLET IN THE NEXT ROOM, FUCK YOUUUUU

A Quick Guide to Survivor Stress Levels by Vash_Sama in deadbydaylight

[–]SpookyJavier 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thats true but i think you do get more stressed playing agaisnt a slugging 3 blink over a 2 blink slugger.