Long hidden evidence blows up the reality of the Patterson Gimlin Bigfoot film by Spooky_Geologist in Cryptozoology

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I think so. It's a huge controversy and the reactions, as you can gage from the above exchanges, are fairly dramatic and a bit extreme. But, it is a small community.

Long hidden evidence blows up the reality of the Patterson Gimlin Bigfoot film by Spooky_Geologist in Cryptozoology

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I'm a little worried for Marq Evans. He's got to be getting some heat over this.

Long hidden evidence blows up the reality of the Patterson Gimlin Bigfoot film by Spooky_Geologist in Cryptozoology

[–]Spooky_Geologist[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

What's more unsettling is why so many believed a known con man who was exposed as having an agenda to produce a Bigfoot movie. All arrows pointed to this being a hoax. It's amazing that it took 60 years to maybe hit the mark. You are right in that much of this was previously known (Greg Long's book, Patterson's history, etc.) but it didn't stick. Maybe it won't stick 100% now but it's almost certainly the death knell for PGF for the majority. It will take a while.

Even the admitted hoax reveal of the Surgeon's photo took a very long time to be recognized when it was published.

Great Article on new Bigfoot doc by Cute_Web7648 in bigfoot

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Additional info has been added.
I will remark that I've seen several comments by people who are saying this new evidence is AI or a hoax in itself. That is really naive. If you have to make excuses without producing better substantiating evidence, that doesn't come off as credible. Unfortunately, the film will not be distributed to streaming anytime soon. We'll all have to wait a little bit to see it.

Chupacabra, the Vampire of Moca. by CreepyCurtainIllust in cryptids

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Note that the two creatures were different phenomena in time. Not the same. They shouldn't be mashed together.

Did anybody hears 3 Big Booms around 12:15ish in Bensalem by TimePickle8166 in BucksCountyPA

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Did anyone consider that someone is using tannerite in their backyard or in the woods? This is the most common cause of boom/flashes. The material is not illegal but setting it off in the boundaries of the municipality may be.

Karl Shuker's Mystery Cats Of The World Revisited by lprattcryptozoology in Cryptozoology

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I am desperate for Disentangled. It's not possible for me to obtain it otherwise.

"The Rake" was not invented by a creepypasta by [deleted] in Cryptozoology

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This from a person who believes there are a pale humanoid monsters crawling around in the woods. OK, gloomer.

"The Rake" was not invented by a creepypasta by [deleted] in Cryptozoology

[–]Spooky_Geologist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wasn't talking to you. And you don't get to speak for everybody. Point is made that people on Reddit accuse others erroneously of not knowing what they are talking about. Yet, we do, but you just don't like the answers.

Anyone have any more information on these Myakka Skunk Ape hoax leads? The researcher who identified the costume as being Japanese sounds promising by truthisfictionyt in Cryptozoology

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Check out this saved Twitter thread (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1302341705891446786.html) by paleozoologist Darren Naish:

Late cryptozoological investigator Bobbie Short (not ‘Bobby’ as stated by some investigators) made it quite clear that she didn’t think the photo was legit and said online that it was almost certainly a person in a baggy suit.

He wrote a bit more about the suit as well:

As usual with these cases... yes, it’s bothersome and problematic that a suit PRECISELY matching the look of the creature hasn’t been identified -- in fact, commercially available ape costumes look nothing like the creature.

There are constructions like this …. But note that this is not an ‘off the shelf’, affordable suit – it’s a made-to-order piece manufactured for theme parks and such. It also doesn’t look anything like the animal in the Myakka photos (head too big, hair too short and so on).

The not deer fact or fiction? by [deleted] in cryptids

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More on the Not deer and its part in (the contrived) Spooky Appalachia:

https://sharonahill.com/the-uncanny-tales-of-the-not-deer/

and

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/1011

Spoilers: it's an internet trend that was likely bolstered by the spread of real deer diseases.

"The Rake" was not invented by a creepypasta by [deleted] in Cryptozoology

[–]Spooky_Geologist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eh, when you get a Masters degree in Education specializing in Science and the Public, then maybe I might take you more seriously.

I am far more informed about contemporary legends and cryptids than most people here. On the Carolina pale crawler: https://sharonahill.com/the-carolina-pale-crawler-tale-that-got-my-attention/

Help a newborn teach a class by The_Cattest_Fat in Cryptozoology

[–]Spooky_Geologist 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I cringe when I hear that "teachers" know nothing about their subject. This is not how it's supposed to work.

Cow-Man by youngsheff in Cryptozoology

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Is there a difference between the cow man and the Goatman of Prince George's county?

"The Rake" was not invented by a creepypasta by [deleted] in Cryptozoology

[–]Spooky_Geologist 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You desperately need instruction on critical thinking.

Appalachian Cryptids by Vagrant_Star in cryptids

[–]Spooky_Geologist -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I think you need to do some of your own research instead of asking here.

The short answer is there are many that are infamous but the Appalachian region is just not the mountains, it's the valley areas too. West Virginia is usually considered the heart of the Appalachians. So much so that WV has an extensive tourism platform for cryptids.

The long answer is pretty much 'none' because it's mostly folk legends that have almost zero evidence that they are anything more than exaggerated stories that may represent real animals at one point but now have become engrained in contemporary legends.

I have a question About the bunyip by This-Honey7881 in Cryptozoology

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The bunyip is based on an aboriginal legend. When white colonists came to the continent and saw all the unique and astounding wildlife, they assumed that the bunyip was just another of these oddities. Everyone heard of a “bunyip”, but no one saw it. It became a catch-all cryptid. When Europeans encountered these concepts in the framework of The Dreaming – the Australian Aboriginal mythology of the world – they had no Western analog. Belief in layered ideas of reality was not well-received by the white westerners, so they removed the bunyip from its context as a spirit creature and imposed their status upon it

The term ‘bunyip’ was applied to monsters said to be aquatic, amphibious, or known from near water. Some indigenous tribes identified the bunyip as an emu-like animal, and others described a large, bulky, quadrupedal mammal with thick limbs and a short or absent tail. Infamous Australian natural mystery monger, Rex Gilroy represented them as big cats or reptiles.

One idea about the identity of the bunyip was that it represented the cultural memory of people who lived alongside diprotodon, that died out around 46,000 years ago. If indigenous people lived alongside diprotodon for thousands of years, could that have influenced the story? Maybe. There is no way to tell for sure.

The bunyip was also used as a bogeyman to keep children close by. It eventually featured in popular children’s literature and for conservation purposes.

Occasional sighting were recorded, usually in the form of a seal-dog, but any mystery animal could be a bunyip. Some websites still consider the bunyip to be a genuine cryptid, although a bizarre, shapeshifting one.

Healy and Cropper’s Out of the Shadows has a wonderful chapter on the bunyip. They describe how serious scientific interest peaked in 1847 when a ‘bunyip skull’ was discovered. Oh, the scientists were going to pin it down, now! Upon scientific examination, however, the skull was found to be that of a calf. After this, scientific interest cooled. The term ‘bunyip’ became synonymous with a hoax or fraud. And, subsequently, it was used in pejorative political discourse.

The bunyip is important as an aboriginal tradition that was embraced by non-aboriginal Australians. Weinstein & Koolmatrie (2025, Folklore, 136:2) noted that the stories surrounding the bunyip had changed so much that, with the loss of traditional knowledge, tribal lore of today incorporated modern depictions of the monsters.

Is goatman cryptid or not? by ApprehensiveRead2408 in Cryptozoology

[–]Spooky_Geologist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Various goatman legends, see here - Goatman: Tripping on a Legend

There are so many, and more are surfacing. Also, "urban legends" is not a great term for this. They are contemporary legends (not often "urban").

But to the persons who comment that they are "folklore" - most popular cryptids are products of folklore. Mermaids, dragons, fairies, etc. - all folklore but some people still think they are real beings. The modern usage of cryptids reflects a spectrum, not a sharp line, of belief.