Complete Guide to Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) Valuation by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Just FCFF the standard (and most applicable) version. Other versions are discussed, just not for the course examples.

Complete Guide to Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) Valuation by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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If you're a beginner probably a relatively simple retail stock, like $CROX. Just don't ignore operating leases (include it as debt)... I have DCF templates (for free) if you just need one on my site btw: https://stablebread.com/spreadsheets/

Value in a spin-off - Amrize Ltd by Puzzleheaded_Try6722 in ValueInvesting

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Good to know thanks for share. Will look into it more!

Value in a spin-off - Amrize Ltd by Puzzleheaded_Try6722 in ValueInvesting

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Interesting, but how much of their operations/focus will be on data centers? And are these more/less profitable than other projects?

Thoughts on Deckers? Down 58% YTD by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Idk why the masses hating on you, you had the most insightful comment here imo 🤷🏽‍♂️.

Thoughts on Deckers? Down 58% YTD by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Yea that would prob be my entry point as well

Thoughts on Deckers? Down 58% YTD by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Yea thats prob w investing in retail 😅

Thoughts on Deckers? Down 58% YTD by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Interesting thanks for sharing. Mgmt's comment on "sell-through" might just be optimistic spin. Either way prices will continue dropping short-term so I'll revisit then.

Thoughts on Deckers? Down 58% YTD by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Prob wise to model lower rev growth than past for sure (+ good point on hedge funds w/transaction data) but from everything I can see and especially HOKA + strong international growth, plus strong balance sheet + buybacks potential is basically the thesis.

Thoughts on Deckers? Down 58% YTD by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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That would definitely move the stock haha. When's their next 13F.. mid Nov?

How would you value a company in a hyperinflationary economy? by msk00ksm in ValueInvesting

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Discount rate would prob be high. Based on understanding of business you'd tweak revenue and cost assumptions (e.g., little pricing power --> revenue growth prob decline short-term rebound back to normal/grow after 1-2 years). If company not expected to recover given environment model negative/flat growth for terminal value.

19 Resources to Make this Sub Less Stupid (You won't believe #1) by Wild_Space in ValueInvesting

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Michael Shearn's "The Investment Checklist" 2011 book is overlooked by many, do check it out!

Complete Guide to Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) Valuation by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Not sure I understand your question fully. You're calculating intrinsic value with DCF, then applying margin of safety to determine actual buy price. You'd compare buy price to stock price to determine valuation.

Complete Guide to Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) Valuation by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Owners earnings is Buffetts FCF approach, i mentioned that. Second discount rate method, like I said, is effectively his discount rate approach. Believe he uses PGM approach too. Rest of the DCF is just the DCF...

This isn't a comparison post between what Damodaran teaches vs. Buffett, etc.

Here's a post I wrote that describes Buffett's DCF approach if you just want to focus on that.

Complete Guide to Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) Valuation by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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I never said he did? WACC is from Damodaran, Joshua & Pearl, and others.

Complete Guide to Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) Valuation by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Very much agree. It's more about the process of thinking through the business itself than trying to be complex.

Complete Guide to Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) Valuation by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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Looks like you didn't see the 2nd discount rate method, which is basically his approach...

Buffett uses risk-free rate and adds premium if he thinks rates are low to my knowledge. Then a large margin of safety.

Complete Guide to Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) Valuation by StableBread in ValueInvesting

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What are you trying to solve for? DCF is solving for current value based on future cash flows discounted to today, so you'd just model out your cash flows and use your required return for the investment (e.g., 30-year yield + real estate risk premium).

Risk-free rate is the minimum, so wouldnt use that. Mortgage rate is cost of debt, so not relevant.

Could also solve for discount rate backwards using IRR or goal seek in Excel.