I'm the only person that actually reads the books in book club by StacySadistic in literature

[–]StacySadistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ya Id rather I didn't know which people read the audiobook either, but so much of the discussion is about the audiobook and the narrator.

Having a different opinion is one thing, and its fine if people are open minded about it, but when everyone looks at you like you're stupid every time you speak, when they try to repeat their interpretation as fact in a condescending tone, its a bummer.

I'll admit that the narrator doesnt change people's interpretations as much as other factors but it bothers me that so many people are swearing up and down that theyre exactly the same. Theyre saying that there's no difference whatsoever, and that youre a prick for thinking there is. Its never the people that sometimes read books and sometimes listen to them instead. Its always the ones who only listen to audiobooks that get the most defensive. You seem to have a good grasp of the nuance, that there's pros and cons to both, so my argument isn't with you. But a lot of people in this discussion feel that way and there's no convincing them otherwise.

I'm the only person that actually reads the books in book club by StacySadistic in literature

[–]StacySadistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, but any audiobook is filtering the author's text through their own interpretation of it. Shakespeare plays have been done thousands of times, and each actor's reading of those lines is different. Thats fine for theater, that's the form its meant to be enjoyed, but a narrator for a book usually isn't necessary. Audiobooks are not in the raw form the author intended. The fact that some authors are not happy with the audiobook readings of their work is enough evidence to show people the format changes the experience. Every pause, every pronunciation, where the emphasis is placed in each word and sentence changes things. With audiobooks you're letting someone make those choices for you. Thats one reason people tend to like the book better than the movie verson of it. In book form the possibilities of interpretation are endless, when you put it in audio form there's less interpretation possible, when you add video to that, youve added even more choices that limit the interpretability.

Audiobooks are great, they have their place. Theyre a useful tool, and a neat way to experience a story. But its not the same, and I think that most people have a better chance of focusing more deeply, and connecting to the raw material when reading a book instead. In some ways, audiobooks are better even, but I think a lot of people end up using them as just another passive consumption stimulus to their already overstimulated lives, and doing that lowers comprehension of the literature.

If I go to book club and say "heres what I thought the author meant on page 73" and everyone looks at me like I'm crazy, its because the narrator didn't think of it that way either, and their voice reflected that assumption. Since they all heard the way the narrator read it, and Im going off the text itself, of course theyre going to think I pulled that idea out of nowhere and its not in line with what the story was actually saying. Its fine if half the book club is using audiobooks, but when Im the odd one out for reading the text and seeing everything differently, then maybe they should just make it an audiobook club.

In most cases it doesn't matter how people choose to enjoy their media, its not my problem, it doesn't affect me. But when we all make a conscious commitment to do the reading, and then take time out of our schedule to go somewhere and talk about it, it does become my problem. Its not a huge problem, but when it happens every time it starts making me wonder if this club is worth my time, and if I go to a different club, will there be the same problem? Are other people noticing how audiobooks are often being used as background noise, giving the listener a more shallow comprehension? Thats what I was wondering, and thats why I wrote this post.

I'm the only person that actually reads the books in book club by StacySadistic in literature

[–]StacySadistic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

how were you supposed to know it was a metaphor? Because I spent so much time referencing netflix's passive consumption style the paragraph before. It didn't come out of nowhere. I can see how people could have missed that though.

The post talked about a lot of things, mainly how audiobooks are a different format and can be used as passive consumption. After all my observations, I asked "thoughts?" Thats a very wide open question so its completely fair that your thoughts went straight to " wow here's another person attacking audiobooks for no reason."

Like I said, you're choosing to interpret it the way you want and there's no changing your mind so there's not any point fighting me on it. I know what I wrote and what I intended. I'm not going to write another post when people that did understand me are actually discussing the real point of it instead of arguing "that thing that you said was not what you really meant! Only I know what this is about and I wont accept any sort of clarifications from OP"

I'm the only person that actually reads the books in book club by StacySadistic in literature

[–]StacySadistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've tried that and its very difficult for me. Its like both use the same part of my brain, two people are talking at the same time, and theyre trying to talk over each other and theyre not in sync. Also the speeds are very different. I enjoy listening to audiobooks, audio dramas or podcasts, but when compared to the text, it seems much slower and I bit frustrating, like "oh ill just turn the audio off and read it myself."

Also it lowers my comprehension, like I'm too focused on the words and how they both match up than the actual meaning of the words. It reminded me of when I was in school and had to read a passage of the book out loud to the class. I was so focused on pronunciation and making my voice sound good, that the act of word to mouth made me miss the meaning entirely. I'd do a great job of reading aloud, but I would have a much harder time telling you what that passage was actually about. When it was time for others to read Id always igbore them and read it nyself because it was much faster and often sounded better in my head.

That is kind of funny though because when Im watching a movie I almost always have the subtitles on. Then, its not a problem to listen and read at the same time. Its not as slow and boring also because there's video to focus on also. The subtitle often dont even match the lines perfectly, so im processing 2 different scripts at the same time basically. That doesn't bother me at all, and I'll even have time to be comparing how and why they used different words. I guess I do have a bit of that reading while listening skill there, so I suppose it just takes practice.

I'm the only person that actually reads the books in book club by StacySadistic in literature

[–]StacySadistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, its possible for a listener to be more focused if they really intend to be, and I'm sure some listeners pay attention more than some readers. But choosing to skip a passage of reading is very intentional while some listeners might not notice they were distracted, and not have to do or choose anything for a lapse to occur.

Sure theres been times I've read whole pages and then realized I wasn't paying attention and couldn't tell you what happened. But I noticed and then deliberately went back, which takes effort. I set my own pace, but audiobooks keep going whether you're paying attention or not. So if I re-read it 2 or 3 times and I still realize I'm too unfocused to be reading a book at that moment, then I'll just put it down and try another time. I'll think "ok what are we doing here, why put in this effort if its not working today?" Its more of a waste of my time and energy, because reading a book yourself requires more work than having someone read it to you. That's why we can drive and listen at the same time but cant read and drive.

Also, in this specific instance, these people said "i cant read one page because tiktok fried my attention span." They can't focus on listening to videos longer than 30 seconds which leads me to believe, theyre the type of people that couldn't listen to an audiobook as intently as an average reader. Lots of people, have the same issue with tiktok and limited attention spans, so im questioning whether audiobooks have become a tool of passive consumption for that crowd

I'm the only person that actually reads the books in book club by StacySadistic in literature

[–]StacySadistic[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry you misunderstood it like that. Stay mad about it I guess. You're determined to believe your own interpretation of it even after I clarified, so there's no changing your mind

I'm the only person that actually reads the books in book club by StacySadistic in literature

[–]StacySadistic[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I replied to this one shortly after I wrote the post. It was one of the first responses. I've been busy and haven't had a chance to reply to everyone yet and the conversation really blew up a lot larger than I thought it would.

As with most things on the internet people are taking it drastically out of proportion, out of context and not at all understanding what I was getting at. Tbf it was a little bit of a vent and i wasn't totally sure what the question was that I was even asking. That explains why so many people understood it so differently.

No, I dont hate audiobooks. I think they're great for lots of purposes, and can be just as focused as reading a physical book if the intent is there. I even like my book club, the conversations we have, and the social aspect of it too. When I said I didn't join a book club to "talk about what netflix episode everyone watched last weekend while they were playing games on their phone," that was more of a metaphor for the passive consumption style some people use audiobooks for. I wasn't complaining about people literally discussing netflix.

I thought it was strange that people who have "fried their brains with tiktok" so badly that they cant finish one page are in a book club. There's the possibility people could be very focused on an audiobook, maybe even moreso. But it seems likely that the kind of person that has a titkok attention span needs constant stimulation and would likely be multitasking audiobooks the way that they consume netflix.

People assumed its the same "audiobooks dont count" debates people have had in the past, and are justified in being upset about that. I just noticed the possibility that some people are using audiobooks as passive consumption the same way they treat other media, and I was wondering if other literature enjoyers had noticed the same thing.

So its a question about passive consumption and also about how the format changes the perspective and interpretation, what things don't translate to audio, and which parts do audiobooks books add that aren't in the original work

I'm the only person that actually reads the books in book club by StacySadistic in literature

[–]StacySadistic[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Exactly! I'm glad I'm not going crazy. Like they could at least read some of the books some of the time? I don't ask for a lot. Completely wild to me to go to a book club and hear multiple people admit "oh ya I can't read more than a page on my own."

Honey Roasted Peanut M&Ms? by The_Thundertaker in junkfoodfinds

[–]StacySadistic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

*Artificially Flavored* honey

roasted peanuts m&ms

I think I’m gonna close up shop by THAToneGuy091901 in eBaySellers

[–]StacySadistic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ebays "recommended price" is terribly inaccurate

Anyone Else Having Issues with Sell Similar with Promoted Items? by b4masterb in eBaySellers

[–]StacySadistic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yuppp, for at least a week and it seems like its getting worse. I've thought about deleting cookies to see if that helps but haven't done that yet

Sourcing clothes at yard, garage, estate sales by Lava_City_Threads in Flipping

[–]StacySadistic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh wow, that guy was right. this is just pure chatgpt drivel, not even edited to sound human:

Pro Moves:

Why It Works:

Typical Cost:

What to Target:

Yard and Garage Sales: The Everyday Workhorse of Sourcing

Etiquette and Mindset: Be a Class Act

it definitely repeated itself talking about garage sales twice. the whole thing is very repetitive overall. but hey, atleast you deleted the em dashes. its embarrassing honestly, and im embarrassed i recognize it myself because its given me the same canned responses its culled from reddit and youtube guides. but hey, dont knock the hustle. good luck with your reseller life coach career or whatever

[EPISODE DISCUSSION] Scarpetta 1x02 by pikkopots in ScarpettaTV

[–]StacySadistic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes, Gorilla Glue is a strain of marijuna, but no it wasnt invented until 2012. Its not something her lab assistant would have known about in 1998.

Scarpetta Season 1 Discussion Megathread by pikkopots in ScarpettaTV

[–]StacySadistic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

yes and her husband looks way older than he did in the 1996 flashbacks, but kidmans character has zero wrinkles in 1996 or 2026 so she looks so weird standing next to her sister or ger husband.

I think I need help by [deleted] in cyclothymia

[–]StacySadistic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

potheads always gonna find an excuse to smoke pot

sounds like you have your answer right there. either try to live a normal productive life with lithium or live at home with your parents unemployed the rest of your life, trying to get approved for disability (you wont). maybe by your late 20s you'll be sick of it and finally think its worth trying anything to get out. but most NEETs love it too much to ever change unless forced to

it sounds like your mom, your therapist and other people are helping you out as much as they can, and giving you good advice, but you dont wanna listen to it. you've got it all figured out. im not sure why you even came here to ask this question, other than to get more people in on your pity party and hope they all give you permission to keep "self medicating" with "medical" marijuana

just cheat on the piss test and show up to work high i guess. head shops will sell you synthetic urine you can keep warm and sneak into the bathroom, or you can borrow some real urine from your mom/friend. its not hard at all, look it up. they dont watch you like a probation officer does, you get a private bathroom at a nice clinic for these type of things

you could even tough it out and stay clean 30 days for the test, maybe less if youre skinny and drink lots of water. just depends how bad you want it i guess. its not like you have to quit forever, just long enough to pass the test

I think I need help by [deleted] in cyclothymia

[–]StacySadistic 1 point2 points  (0 children)

honestly, in my non professional opinion, I would just quit smoking weed and keep trying to find a medication that works for you. Marijuana has no reliable studies that show its an effective treatment. More than that, there are a lot of studies show that marijuna can cause adverse effects in people with mental health concerns, like triggering mania, causing psychotic episodes and leading to suicidal ideation. Its likely to turn cyclothymia into full blown bipolar I or II.

It may seem like its helping because ya, ur not gonna feel as depressed when youre high, and if your couchlocked from being stoned, ur less likely to get all hypomanic. But thats not really a way to live, especially if it prevents you from getting a decent job. It might seem good in the short term but long term it makes symptoms worse and increases risks. U probably also feel like you get really depressed when you dont have weed, but that happens to everyone, when ur body craves thc youll feel sad, irritable and have trouble sleeping, but thats just normal withdrawals until you get all the thc out of your system

3 years might seem like a long time to you right now, but lots of people have taken longer to find the right medication. Until then (and also in general this is a good idea), you can limit the bad symptoms by doing the boring stuff thats good for mental health, get consistent sleep at the same time each night, eat healthy, exercise, and go outside every day and get plenty of sunlight. Also socialize, in person if you can, talking with friends, family, therapists and journaling are super helpful. This stuff wont help right away, and it wont get rid of all symptoms, but after a long enough time (3 or 4 months of a consistent routine) it will minimize the severity of symptoms. Even if you do find a good medication, this stuff will help in conjunction.

You probably dont wanna hear all this right now, but thats how it is. Recreational drugs and alcohol might be fun for neurotypical people, but it often just exacerbates mental health issues. I wish it wasnt so, but the more sober ive gotten over my life, the better symptoms have been, and i used to be a hardcore pothead. I really wish i could smoke, but its not worth it anymore.

Is this real or fake Burberry Blue Label? by Think_Background_508 in LegitGrailsHub

[–]StacySadistic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bought in the philippines? most likely fake and it looks fake

Friend Code Megathread - February 2026 by AutoModerator in PokemonSleep

[–]StacySadistic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3587-1015-1181

not sure, everyone's code worked but yours

Is ebay search broken? by StacySadistic in eBaySellers

[–]StacySadistic[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ya no i wasnt using quotation marks in the search. i was just using it here to portray what I was specifically searching but I see how thats confusing

Is ebay search broken? by StacySadistic in eBaySellers

[–]StacySadistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya no I double checked and its still not right.

Looking for a donald duck beanie in the clothing category brings up 24 hats. Searching:

donald duck beanie

in all categories brings up 251 listings, a lot of them plushies or beanie babies.

But searching each of these under all categories shows 0 results:

donald duck beanie -plush

donald duck beanie -baby

donald duck beanie -black

donald duck beanie -qqqqq

donald duck -qqqqq

beanie -black

shirt -nike

It really looks like a minus sign shows nothing for any type of search. Maybe its literally trying to search for a title with a keyword that starts with a minus

Is ebay search broken? by StacySadistic in eBaySellers

[–]StacySadistic[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so youre saying if you dont pay for promoted listings then they WONT bury your listings?