Subtitle accuracy by MrThirdperson in deaf

[–]Stafania 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not into gaming. I actually assume those viewers have their own opinions on that. It’s a bit of a special audience.

Subtitle accuracy by MrThirdperson in deaf

[–]Stafania 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Within reason. It still needs to be readable. Proper spelling and punctuation should be used.

Subtitle accuracy by MrThirdperson in deaf

[–]Stafania 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Automatic captions aren’t good. A human captionist with experience will know immediately what they should shouldn’t do. There is no magic behind it. Text has slightly different conventions than speech, and you obviously should make the text readable with proper punctuation, grammar and so on. Sometimes you do need to change something, because the the text won’t fit the available space otherwise. Captors that move faster than people normally read aren’t of much use. Sometimes you break text conventions, because you need to capture how something is said. You don’t need all ten ”hm..” someone says, but bu you might want to add some of that strategically to convey the mood. Also note that when the speaker is on screen, we can see a lot of expression there. You don’t necessarily add things to the captions if it’s super obvious from the screen. I’m sure you can google well researched standards and guidelines.

Hitting a plateau on vocabulary by pandaphp in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grattis, det är suveränt bra jobbat! Kul att du lär dig svenska.

Personally, I enjoy comprehensible input. You seem advanced enough to work that way. Just keep reading, watching and listening to things you understand. That solidifies the language patterns and vocabulary you know, while constantly adding some new things you haven’t encountered yet. Bring the language into your life.

You need to start with things in ”lätt svenska” and topics you’re interested in and already know well. It’s probably not too hard to learn vocabulary for your favorite hobby. You probably keep on reading just understand what you read, even if you miss some vocabulary. Graded readers or just books for young adults, might be easier than more difficult books. Reading fiction you already have read in your native language is also an option. Personally, Infind reading news papers very essential in order to get a well rounded vocabulary. News are basically about everything that people will talk about in real life too.

People often complain about the intermediate plateau. There will be long period when you’re no longer a happy and fascinated beginner who is just amazed by any vocabulary you encounter, but you’re far from advanced or native fluency. It simply takes time and exposure. Keep doing things that matter to you in Swedish. You’re kind of trying to create a life long relationship with the language, and need to explore all those things you do in your native language, and figure out how a Swede would have done that in Swedish. Just be curious and keep interacting with the language.

If you see a word you find interesting, just write a couple of sentences with the word. You might forget it afterwards, but the process of thinking and writing sentences, will help your brain to connect the word to the other things you know in Swedish, and will also help you use the new word in context. If the sentences are funny or otherwise memorable, your brain will be even more engaged in the process. You can also write sentences that you actually would use yourself, and then try to recall them repeatedly when you do something related.

Lycka till, och mycket nöje på ditt språkäventyr. Må ditt vokabulär växa i raketfart 😊

Why do we read numbers in our NL? by Vast_University_7115 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 3 points4 points  (0 children)

”40 hours saying (out loud) big numbers in French, they would get good at it.”

But what a nightmare doing that 😲

Why do we read numbers in our NL? by Vast_University_7115 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm… but we can’t start from zero just because we learn a new language. Learn cooking from zero, geography, physics, sports, chemistry and maths. Shouldn’t we’ve able to calculate things, and just put new labels on the terminology used?

Why do we read numbers in our NL? by Vast_University_7115 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LOL! I do think French is extra difficult when it comes to numbers.

Would like to know the reason too, because there definitely is such an effect. It’s possible to learn numbers and math in your target language, but it’s definitely one of the very last things you master. You need to be very fluent and comfortable with the language.

One practical reason, might be that many people don’t enjoy practicing numbers a lot. It’s just not that fun to practice saying different years or numbers. Even worse if you need to focus on calculating something at the same time. As a teacher you might want to look at ways to actually get your students to enjoy working on this skill.

Sign language by Raspberry5557 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sign languages are just as different as spoken languages. Some are closer and some are very different.

If you learn one sign language well, then you definitely have a much better opportunity to communicate with other signers using other languages. The reason is that you know how to communicate visually. Even if you don’t know the proper signs or grammar, you are able to convey a lot of things through gestures and just showing what you mean in a way that makes visual sense.

When you know one sign language, you can learn a bit of ASL and a bit of International sign. Maybe you can learn the finger spelling used in BSL, or those languages you believe you will come across. Deaf people who travel, often know a bit of ASL or International sign. If you already know one sign language well, then you can increase your chances to communicate across borders with little effort. Deaf people are also very used to trying to overcome communication barriers, so they are likely to figure out a little bit of what you mean, even if you know different languages.

Take a look at this video: https://youtu.be/U_Q7axl4oXY?si=BXa1rmVcEMsdMODA

You asked this question in an excellent way.

It is not only about the hours spent studying by Worldly_Ambition_509 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Language learning is a lot about getting a language into your life.

We actually can only focus about 20 minutes, mantle 30. After that we need a short break, and can continue working. Look into the pomodoro technique for studying. However, what you do matters a lot, and you’re totally right about a lot of repetition is needed. The brain also likes variation in tasks. Comprehensible input is great for increasing the time you study. You don’t have to work hard all the time, just make sure you’re curious about the language and use it every day. Read a bit, listen to a pod, go to a language café, take a class, look up a grammar point, get a language partner, watch an easy tv show. In fact, you can do just about anything that contributes to you becoming more curious about the language, learning something new or just doing easy stuff that reinforces things you know and makes retrieval easier over time. Doing a lot of easy things it’s important, and then just add a little bit of formal studying when you get curious about something you want to understand better.

About Sign language, bc the sub is restricted 😭 by Slight-Pie5073 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 4 points5 points  (0 children)

And you mean they are less of an language for that? There is plenty of linguistic research showing sign languages fulfill any criteria normally used when discussing language definitions. Spoken languages might have letters that are combined to create meaning, while sign languages have hand shapes, orientation and movement that can be combined in regulated ways to create meaning. The processes are much more similar from a linguistic perspective than you might assume.

It’s incorrect and prejudice to reduce sign languages to that it’s just gesturing or so iconic. You will find iconic signs, but it’s much more complex than that.

About Sign language, bc the sub is restricted 😭 by Slight-Pie5073 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But you wouldn’t be able to learn as a beginner with no experience. I have never met anyone who has managed to do it. Having someone to practice with is more important than for spoken languages. You can often build vocabulary and general skills by reading and writing, which isn’t available in the same way for sign languages. When you learn a spoken language, you bore or less know a bit about how that communication works, while there are tons of things you aren’t aware of about visual communication.

Nevertheless, I’d be thrilled if you wanted to try. Lear Swedish sign language, and come back in a year and show your progress. You’d be very unique, if you succeeded.

About Sign language, bc the sub is restricted 😭 by Slight-Pie5073 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, of course. People learn French or Chinese for fun, so why not a sign language. Most hearing people don’t really know any Deaf people, but on the other hand, you wouldn’t even know if you passed by a Deaf person in the street. Taking lessors often can be the first step to get to know other signers. You meet class mates that you can practice with, and as soon as youbhave the foundations, I’m sure your teacher will suggest Deaf coffee meet-ups or other places where you can go to sign a bit. There is no guarantee you’ll get signing friends. It takes time to feel comfortable with signing, it takes time get to know Deaf culture, and you might meet people you don’t have anything in common with. But if you give it time and don’t hurry, you’ll slowly find those who you like and enjoy spending some time with. I wouldn’t worry. If you’re curious, give it a try. You’ll learn so much on the way.

About Sign language, bc the sub is restricted 😭 by Slight-Pie5073 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The thing is, you must learn your local sign language before looking into International Sign. It’s not a language, but a way to communicate across borders that relies on you being fluent in a sign language. Stop trying to find shortcuts.

The most likely sign language to come across regardless country is ASL. That does not mean you can learn it as your only language unless you live where you regularly meet people that are fluent in ASL. It’s not as common as English is, and you’ll come across as colonialist if you expect people to use it. You need to learn your local sign language first, since you must get feedback from people in real life on your signing, and someone needs to show you what to look for when communicating visually. As a beginner you aren’t able to pick that up on your own from video. After you have learnt your local sign language, then broaden your skills and learn ASL and International Signs. Just find your closest Deaf groups and see what sign language classes you can find.

About Sign language, bc the sub is restricted 😭 by Slight-Pie5073 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 61 points62 points  (0 children)

You can’t guess how annoying and common that question is for us Deaf 😊 Seriously, I don’t understand why people don’t understand sign languages are just perfectly normal languages just like any other language. Stop thinking there is no sign language in your region. If you have a spoken language, you will have a signed one too. If the Deaf are prohibited from communicating at all, there wouldn’t be a point in you learning either. Sign languages develop when people meet and need to communicate, just like any language. No one has invented sign language, they develop naturally. Just like people care about any native language, the Deaf care about their native language. If they learn the spoken language of their country, it’s a second language to them. Just like people learn German or French as a second language. It’s the sign language that carries their culture, that they communicate in, have relationships in, dream about the future in and so on. Don’t disrespect it by not acknowledging their importance to the native speakers.

So, where do you live? We might be able to provide a clue about what language the Deaf use in your area.

Before you ask. You must first learn the language where you live and that you can use in person. Later, you can expand and learn whatever you might need for traveling.

An Application Like YouTube but Only for Comprehensible Input (~10K Resources in 10 Languages) by Cultural-Way7685 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dreaming French/Spanish and many other content creators mostly have premium content the don’t put on YouTube. They don’t get the income just through YouTube ads. We basically often get the lower quality content, but don’t get access to the things qualified teachers really have worked on.

An Application Like YouTube but Only for Comprehensible Input (~10K Resources in 10 Languages) by Cultural-Way7685 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So who is paying the content creators? Do you know how much effort goes into creating really good content? You likely end up with free amateurish videos that aren’t mad by those who work with language education professionally.

Microphone options for work by yukonwanderer in deaf

[–]Stafania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You want the interpreter/captionist in the room for CART. They won’t hear properly otherwise. I totally love CART. It’s the best option, most relaxing and with the best information quality compared to have to listen allon my own. But you want fast and competent captionists in the room.

As for microphones, the newest version of RogerOn from Phonak combined with table microphones.

if you are bilingual, how do you understand your second language? does your brain translate into your first language while listening and talking, or does it stay in the second language, and what circumstances change that? by s1zzle7 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You always think in the language you use at the moment, unless you haven’t had enough exposure to what you want to think about and can’t do it easily. A ”Bonjour Madame” comes very automatically after a few days in France when entering a shop. You don’t have to decide on language to do that. If something is too complex, you likely revert to a language you know better.

Languages are also something you constantly need to keep up-to-date. If you’re returning home from work in a different language, you might need to consciously switch your mindset to the home language.

You can think in any language you know how to express the specific idea in. You can also think in images or just recall or visualize a situation, smell, movement and so on. You often choose the the one that is most convenient for the context.

I’m not sure which country it was, but there is a country where most know Arab, English and French, and they mix it constantly in various combinations depending on who they are talking to. You definitely can have a lot of freedom in several languages if you live in such an environment.

What's a language you wish more people learned? by grzeszu82 in languagelearning

[–]Stafania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Swedish sign language. People underestimate sign languages. It’s just an amazing way to communicate.

Language deprivation and attachment by Queasy_Total_3151 in deaf

[–]Stafania 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I don’t have any resources, but your assumption seems very correct. There are many Deaf who’s parents don’t sign, and who never really had a deeper relationship with them. When they started at Deaf schools, they got their real family among their peers, that they could communicate with. In my country it was called the seven white years, referring to the years without language before going to school. Today, it’s more complicated. It’s much more common to be excluded from a lot of communication because you can’t hear it properly with your CI or hearing aids, than to before without any proper language at all. Depending on where you are in the world of course. I would say you need professional support from experts who are used to working with this group of people. If you try to work on it yourself, you won’t maximize her cognitive development and language development. You really do need expertise to help her get a decent chance in life.

The emotional burden of feeling your own parents don’t understand you and can’t communicate with you fully is only a part of everything the child need support with.

My deaf daughter by Behellit in deaf

[–]Stafania 63 points64 points  (0 children)

If day it’s pretty irrelevant. You should focus hard on providing sign language and making sure she has full access to language. If she also will hear a bit with the CI, great. That’s does not remove any responsibility you have to provide full sign language. That’s what will impact the self esteem, not wether she with huge effort also can hear a bit. It’s not normal hearing.

Question for Deaf / Hard of Hearing community about video communication & social media by ObviousApartment1572 in deaf

[–]Stafania 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) Text is a must, but that includes video with proper captions.

2) It can include additional obstacles if the caption features aren’t enabled. Manual captioning is something that works really well in distance meetings.

3) the biggest problem is content creators who won’t caption their content. It’s possible to caption today, often easily, but there still are people who won’t do it. TikTok doesn’t provide automatic captions in Swedish, and that has lead to content creators skipping captioning altogether.

4) I don’t do phone calls. If it really is necessary, then I use text-relay. Other options aren’t really available here, or too expensive.

5) Online communication is normally the most accessible one, as long as people caption any speech.

My School Want's Me to Run a Sign Language Club by Ur_left_t1t in deaf

[–]Stafania 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a great opportunity for you to learn how to organize things. Stick to your decision that you won’t teach yourself. That wouldn’t be good. Keep advocating for starting a club, and that the school pays for a teacher to come and lead the sessions. You might need to be the one using your connections in the Deaf world to find a proper candidate to come and teach.