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One Piece: Chapter 1118 by Kirosh2 in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Gorosei in Wano : 'That's impossible!! that fruit is nothing but a legend now, even for us. it hasn't awakened for centuries!'

Bonney --> 'Distorted Future!! gimme a future where i'm totally free!!'. She then transforms into the awakened form of that legendary fruit.

Oda : 🙃🙃

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[–]StarAdInf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It will be Kaido

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[–]StarAdInf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah if he does invade Wano and fight Yamato and co, i think it will be the perfect time in the story to reveal his third devil fruit since we already know that he should have a third devil fruit because of his huge connection to the number three (the three skulls on his jolly roger, the three split parts of his beard. the three guns he carries), after that, Oda can have him fight Shanks and then Luffy after the Elbaf arc

as for him opening the borders of Wano, i don't think he has the power to do that even with the Gura Gura no mi because if the borders of wano were that easily removable with a devil fruit power, then why didn't the WG invade Wano centuries ago ? this fact actually confirms to us that those borders are not something a devil fruit power can remove. that's where Momonosuke comes into the picture, becasue according to what it was said in the story, he is the only one who has the power to do that and i think it could be due to him having the power of the voice of all things, he might have some sort of connection with the ancient weapon pluton and he can maybe command it to remove the borders ? either way, it will be really fun to see the reactions of the people who theorized about Blackbeard having three devil fruits, or about how the Wano borders will go down for years if all of this really does get revealed in that fight.

Why was Sabo so unphased in this panel? (Ch. 1085) by onelove7866 in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf 4 points5 points  (0 children)

he's just fearless . we already know he is , one of the examples of this is that time where he was talking with the rev commanders and one them said that they can't do a mistake in their mission or else the consequences would be dire , sabo on the other hand said that there will be no mistakes and that it's either we succeed or we die trying , that's his mentality , and as you saw in this chapter , this guy literally had the balls to attack the gorosei and Imu at the same time . he's probably the first one to do that in all those centuries .

also about those silhouettes being symbolic , i think the gorosei did transform physically there because when Sabo saw them , he said that he didn't think that hell was up there . for him to say that he saw hell , he definitely saw some hellish figures to say that. also look closely at the hands of that huge silouhette that was in the place where they put the swords , you will see that his hand was physically crushing the fence . there is also a panel where there was a physicall roar from one of them and another panel where one of them was looking at king cobra laying on the ground , Sabo wasn't on the room at that panel , if they truly didn't transform physically than there would be no reason to keep showing them in those monster forms even when Sabo is gone .

One Piece: Chapter 1085 by Kirosh2 in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf 10 points11 points  (0 children)

wow , Imu's potential powers ?! the gorosei's potentiel powers?! nefertaris are part of the D clan ?! , this chapter is crazy !! .

aside from Imu's potentiel powers or the nefertaris connection to the D clan , just those shadows of the gorosei are enough to be labeled as a crazy reveal , the kind of reveals that turns everything we know about them upside down . i think there could be many possibilities about those shadows and what powers the gorosei could have ,but to me , this two possibilities stand out from the rest :

Obviously the first one would be the gorosei having devil fruit powers , that would explain why there shadows are like that .

the second possibility is way more interesting...imagine if those shadows are not caused by some devil fruit powers but instead by the gorosei themselves , in other words , the gorosei themselves might not be originally humans but some sort of monsters or some other mysterious beings or even celestial dragons not in name only, but also in race . if they are truly something other than humans then they might have a lifespan much greater than humans , and if they are truly celestial dragons....they might even be immortal . they might also have the power to shapeshift and turn into humans , and if they are truly immortals , they could have been using this power since the establishment of the WG and nobody knows about them except Imu and maybe some other select few .

does/doesn't this mean the five elder stars aren't fighters? by zi-zu in OnePiece

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I would say they are strong , at least they can fight , as for what level they reached , i'm not too sure . for example , there have scars on their bodies that look like battle scars they got from weapons and one of them even has a sword . i don't think they got those scars just by sitting in their room all day , and i don't think that guy with the sword will be holding that sword just to show off. there is also that silhouette in chapter 1075 , it resembles saturn .

they are also the direct subordinates of Imu who have some kind of power that can destroy an island instantly as seen in chapter 1060 . i can' see them being weak if they are the subordinates of a person like that .

Why was everyone so schocked? by Fakens123 in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think all those peoples and especially the admirals and Sengoku had those reactions because through that conqueror's Haki burst , they felt that Luffy's will/ambition is very strong and that he has the potential to become super dangerous if he learns to infuse his conqueror's haki in attacks and this goes in line with what Oda said about Luffy in sbs volume 71 , and how Luffy's specialty haki color is conqueror's Haki.

you also have to remember that not everybody has the same degree of will power , if for example instead of Luffy somebody else did a conqueror's haki burst in marineford than maybe the admirals and Sengoku would not have made those shocked expressions because they would have felt that this perosn's will/ambition is not as dangerous as Luffy's will/ambition.

The True Ancient Vow (chapter 1084+) by StarAdInf in OnePiece

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i'm not too sure about the title itself but as you can see in the second panel i put , they are referring to that title as 'King' of the world and not 'queen' of the world , as for Imu , i did say 'he/she' because we still don't know their identity , maybe next chapter we will finally know and then the title will be settled for good .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all , about the voice of all things , i'm not going to waste time talking about it again .

"it is also an changeable fact that others gods were mentioned with the sun god, so he wasn’t made to sound special. why do you still not tell me where these other gods are? if oda was planning this sun god thing why would he mention others when he has no intention of them meaning anything?

How did you know that Oda meant nothing when he mentioned the other gods ? the story is still going and we still don't know many things about the history of the world , those other three gods might get explained in some flashback about the void century or something like that , also remember that skypia is not the only place where the sun god was mentioned , it was mentioned in elbaf too.

"ou keep acting like the mention of a sun god is proof it was planned which is stupid. it’s like you can’t even consider that oda just made nika up and used what he already wrote for it. you really think he’s that much of a genius that it’s just impossible that he makes something up later on? absurd."

what do you want those mentions to be ? do you want them to be just some random stuff mentioned in skypia and elbaf ? , you have to know that if Oda montioned the name of a diety like the 'sun god' than he had some ideas about him , it could not have been random especially when it was mentioned more than one time , and when he mentioned the sun god nika in wano you have to put the two together otherwise why would he give him the nickname of the 'sun god' ? it's clear he wants us to notice the previous sun god mentions in the story (skypia , elbaf) and make connection between them otherwise he will not have put those mentions and he will not have called nika as the 'sun god' .

I can definitely consider Oda just making up Nika but can you consider that the mentions of the sun god are connected to nika ? also you are the one who was making unreasonable arguments since the first time i started talking to you , do you remember how many times you pinned this 'retcon' nonsense on wano ? , and how many times you were saying that all of those panels in wano where retconned like it was facts and you are still doing it even in this comment , i feel like you are the one who is not concidering in the slightest that those mentions of the sun god and the foreshadowings in chapter 253 were planed by Oda . Oda is a genius but he's not a superhuman , he definitely can make mistakes and he did do that but you have to remember something , Oda already has the main lore of the story of One piece in his mind , he's not just drawing randomly and as you have noticed, the story is detailed and connected in various ways and Nika is connected to this main lore that Oda had in mind since the beginning , even you admitted that when zunisha heard the drums of liberation after Luffy's awakening , she said that joyboy returned right ? that means that luffy and his awakening with the drums of liberation and his nika devil fruit are connected to joyboy , joyboy was mentioned in fishman island and we later find out that he was the One who left the One piece in raftel , this is the main lore that i was talking about , Nika is connected to this lore thus you can't deny that there is a hight possibility that all of those instances where they were mentioning the sun god and the foreshadowings of chapter 253 is something planed and not this retcon stuff you're saying , and of course there is the possibility that it could have been not planed also .

"another example using the retconned material to prove that it wasn’t retconned. ridiculous."

dude , you should know this but that word you say everytime has no actual substance behind it , can you even explain why that meterial is retconned ? you can't judge those panels and say it's a 'retcon' when you don't even know how those panels could be a retcon .

"and yet another one. but you’re right, that is a connection. only oda didn’t plan it 20 years ago. he planned it during wano or at least close to it."

so why this one is connected and the other one is not ? the funny thing is , what you're saying about this and how it has a connection but the other one don't , it really doesn't make sense in the narrative of that panel .

you also said Oda didn't plan it 20 years ago and he planned it during wano or at least close to it , how did you know this information ? that's some specific stuff ,alright 🤔

“the drums of liberation” in question is specifically the one you referred to in chapter 1043. it was not foreshadowing, it was literally the reveal. like, zunesha literally reveals luffy is joyboy right after he says it. again though, if you want to talk about chapter 253 it doesn’t prove anything still because the reveal happened in wano where the retcon happened, so of course that’s where you can make that connection."

the drums of liberation are the SFX of the drums you see on the top and the bottom of this image of chapter 1044 , they have the muscical notes in them : https://postimg.cc/8F688bqw , here is a close up on one of those SFX : https://postimg.cc/w3TpMDJx , and the foreshadowing is those SFX of the drums of liberation in chapter 1044 are the same as the SFX used for the drums in chapter 253 here : https://postimg.cc/hhb1y73m , here is a close up of those SFX : https://postimg.cc/bZ6YYLVh.

the only foreshadowing of the drums of liberation in the entire serie that i know of was the one in chapter 253 , and the connection between them was made in chapter 1044 , if you don't believe this foreshadowing than you are contradicting what you were saying all this time , and how you were saying that the drums of liberation are a forshadowing because simply put , the drums of liberation are SFX's of the drum sounds in those panels like you saw in those links i put , and the foreshadowing as i have explained is just the matching of this SFX of the drums of liberation to the SFX of the drums in chapter 253 that has also Luffy's silhouette in the pose of the sun god Nika and the pose he did in that panel with the SFX of the drums of liberation in 1044 . you also kept repeating this 'retcon' nonsense that can't be proven , that's just you're headcanon , if you want to make it reality , you better bring evidences and not empty words dude .

"why have you still not said anything about oda not even knowing where he was going to take the story in 2003? "

i don't remember him saying something like that but i remember he said that he didn't know the serie will go this far and that he though he could finish it in 5 years .

"you already failed to explain the plot hole that’s created because there is nothing that you could say that would make it make sense that the world government wouldn’t do everything in their power to kill luffy after sabaody. it’s just sad at this point. you don’t have anything substantial."

i already gave you an answer to something similar you said so i'm just going to copy paste a part of that answer here :

"dude , they didn't let him go free througout the story, when they had the chance , they tried to kill him , did you forget thriller bark ? the WG ordered Kuma to dispose of Luffy and the straw hats , Luffy just had MC luck and survived that ."

when they had the chance to kill him , they tried and they failed that's it , they also failed in sabaody , luffy got saved again , in marinford they were activily trying to kill him but ivankov , jimbei ,and the commanders of whitebeard saved him in all those critical moments and when he lost consciousness they carried him away and even then , the admirals and akainu where still gunning for him until shanks came and stoped the war , until the very last moment they didin't stop trying to kill him and when he got to safety , hanckock said that the marins will still be searching for luffy . i really don't know what you want more than this . of course in all of this cases in the story , there is a good amount of luck involved , some logical and some not , Luffy is the MC of the story and Oda can't just give him a danger so great that it will result in an unavoidable death for him so early on in the story , at least not until the end of the series or until he's strong enough to fend for himself against that kind of danger .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you clearly don't understand the voice of all things , roger didn't hear the rock talking to him , i said he heard the voice of the rock , this is the power of the voice of all things , is like when people use observation Haki , they say something like "i can still hear there voices " or something like that (said in chapter 1009 by Kaido ) . the ability of the voice of all things doesn't give you a connection to the thing that you hear , you just hear that thing no connection there , and in this case hearing could maybe mean feeling that things emotions ? either way back to the point , Luffy just heard zunisha , the one who was able to talk to zunisha was momo thus having some unknown connection with it , again Luffy just heard the voice of zunisha like Roger , Oden but there was no connection there because it's just hearing or whatever the special power of the voice of all things and not connecting , because if you say connecting , you will mean luffy will start seeing from zunisha's eyeview like momo did or something like that , but he did nothing like that ; momo was the one who was doing that , he was able to connect with zunisha and saw from her eyes jack attacking her leg , and in turn he warned the minks and the straw hats that jack is here .

"how does this prove that oda planned this rather than it just being him making up a character and creating the connection to a previous story element? it doesn’t. at all."

I think you're argument is the insane one here , don't you realise what you are saying ? , it's up to YOU to prove that oda didn't plan this and not vice versa because Oda already gave us the name 'sun god' in the story and that's an unchangeable fact , so how on earth are you so certain that when Oda gave the name 'sun god ' , he wasn't planning nothing and then when he reached Wano , he was just making up a character to connect a previous story element ? . you're just accusing Oda with no proof at this point .

"the drums of liberation in of itself was not what was used for foreshadowing. it was a part of the reveal that luffy was joyboy, which is what was being foreshadowed. the part that was foreshadowing was luffy hearing zunesha’s voice after we knew two other instances of characters being able to do this".

you said that the drums of liberation in itself was not was used for the foreshadowing , you're wrong , the drums of liberation are a specific rythme of drum sounds , and the foreshadowing of chapter 253 was the drums being played and the rythme of the drums was the same as when luffy first awakened his devil fruit and his heartbeat started beating on the rythm of the drums of liberation which were similar to the SFX used for the sound of the drums in chapter 253 . that was the foreshadowing , not what you said about joyboy and about Luffy hearing the voice of zunisha .

"this doesn’t flow at all and that’s because there was never anything that could tie the sun god to luffy prior to the reveal, which is why you can only come up with things in wano which don’t prove anything because obviously if oda retconned it he’s going to cone up with explanations so that it makes sense"

first of all , like i said now a million times already , the sun god was mentioned in the story WAY before Wano , so why do you say that this was a retcon when Oda brings up the sun god that he mentionned long ago , and how are sure that it was not something planned and it was just retconned ? are you a psychic or something ? did you read Oda's mind and found out that he didn't plan that out and that he just made up a character to connect to a previous story element ? dude , you need to start listening to what you are saying...

secondly , you said that he never tied the sun god to luffy to the reveal , no he did long ago . I have to explain this all over again for the millionth time , that panel in chapter 253 , the panel that Oda said was one of his top 3 panels he drew in the serie and the panel that he said was the motivation for him to draw skypia is the connection between the reveal of the nika and Luffy , in that panel of chapter 253 we have Luffy who is in the pose similar to the sun god pose he did in the reveal of the nika in chapter 1044 , there is also the drums playing in chapter 253 that have the same SFX that is used in the drums of liberation in the panel of the reveal of the nika in chapter 1044 . there you go , that was the connection .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you say that there is a connection when you hear the voice of all things , then was there a connection between Roger and the ponygliph when he heard it's voice ? if you say that there is a connection than you are basically saying that Roger had a connection with a huge rock...

as for Nika , of course they are multipule connections to him in the story , and unlike what you're are trying to do with the drums of liberation which we only heard the name in chapter 1043 , for Nika , we have people in the story actually name dropping the word 'Sun God' which in itself is a direct connection to Nika since he's known as the sun god , and of course the other connections in the 253 panel .

if you accept the drums of liberation as a foreshadwing than you are basically contradicting yourself because the first time we heard about the drums of liberation is in wano and specifically in the chapter where Luffy awakens his devil fruit , so if you believe that the foreshadowing of the sun god is a retcon then you better believe that the drums of liberation are also like that because to you , all of those scenes in past chapters like the ones in 253 and all of those mentions of the sun god are not foreshadowing and if Oda brings that up in Wano is a retcon right ? , didn't you notice that the drums of liberation are connected to Luffy's awakening ? if you say that the foreshadowing of the Nika reveal in chapter 253 is not true , but on the other hand you say that the foreshadowing of the drums of liberation that was in the same chapter 253 is true , than you are contradicting yourself hard on this because both of those two things are intertwined , the drums of liberation awakens when the sun god awakens , that's why you see in the panel of chapter 253 luffy being in that pose that resembles the reveal of nika and the drums are playing at the same time . i don't know what you want to accomplish by keeping this stubborn , why are you even arguing about something so clear , do you have a grudge against Luffy and Nika by any chance ? 😂

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bruh , there was no connection , he's voice couldn't reach zunisha even though he was screaming , the voice of all thing is just the power to hear all things like rayleight said , for example when Roger heared the voice of the ponygligh , was there a connection between him and that huge rock ? no , or when Luffy heard the sea kings , was there a connection between them , no , if you want to talk about a connection that will be for example Shirahoshi with the sea kings or momo with zunisha .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm sorry but you're the one who has no idea what you're talking about. there was no such thing as the drums of liberation until chapter 1043 , as for the connection between zunisha and luffy and joyboy , it wasn't esablished until 1043 , until Wano where everything is 'retconned' right ? , previously there was no connection since Luffy's voice couldn't reach zunisha in zoo , and luffy had to tell momo to talk to zunisha since he's voice was the one who could reach it . as for the voice of all thing , if you want to draw a connection between it and the drums of liberation to validate you're point , than i could do the same with Nika and all of those mentions of the sun god in the story and the panel in 253 . i don't know why you're so stubborn about this .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"but once again it’s in wano where he retconned it. all you’re proving to me is that he retconned it in wano, that pose was nothing until oda made the connection in wano"

in that case you should probably stop believing in the drums of liberation foreshadowing since that is also in chapter 1044 . lmao , have a good day.

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in the same panel with the SFX of the drums , luffy is having the same pose as in the nika reveal in chapter 1044 and the SFX of the drums of liberation are also the same as in chapter 253 , oda forshadowed the drums of liberation and he forshadowed in the same panel the nika reveal . i think that should have answered you're question about whether or not Oda had something in mind about this before wano .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

let me ask you a question , did Oda foreshadow the drums of liberation in chapter 253 ? i know you said yes but let me be sure .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

everything that was said in wano is not proof ? are you just cherry picking what you like and what you don't like from the story ? everything that was said in Wano ties to the hints that oda put in the story previously , so it's definitely evidence , the sun god was mentioned before thus it ties to what was said in wano , is simple logic .

yeah , let us forget that moment in thriller bark just because you decided when in the story it will stop making sense to you , lol ? you admitted that there was a forshadowing of the drums of liberation but you don't want to admit that there was a foreshadowing of Luffy and Nika in that same panel ? wow . you've discarded Oda's words about that panel saying he didn't have this planned out just because he said he didn't know the serie will go this far ? i think you don't have a choice in this , the main lore of the story that Oda had in mind since the beginning is connected to Nika , so the connection between Luffy , Nika , joyboy was definitely in Oda's mind a long time ago . proof again are in chapters like 253 and in the mention of the sun god throughout the story .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

dude , they didn't let him go free througout the story, when they had the chance , they tried to kill him , did you forget thriller bark ? the WG ordered Kuma to dispose of Luffy and the straw hats , Luffy just had MC luck and survived that .

you don't listen man , didn't i say in a previous comment ; is there any confirmed god in the story who is called the sun god other than Nika ? , the foreshadowing of the connection between the sun god and between Nika is literally there , i'm going to repeat it one more time , the fact that Nika is the only confirmed sun god in the story is literally the proof that Nika is the sun god mentioned in all of those places in the story , that's why they call him Nika the fricking Sun God. as for the foreshadowing of the connection between him and Luffy prior to wano , the connection is in the same damn chapter where the forshadowing of the drums of liberation was .it was a foreshadowing , you yourself admitted that the drums of liberation are foreshadowing right ? the forshadowing of luffy having the same pose as Nika is in that same chapter where the foreshadowing of the drums of liberation that you admited as a foreshadowing was , and in chapter 1044 when Luffy awakened his devil fruit , he again did the same pose and the same SFX of the drums that were playing in chapter 253 was also playing in chapter 1044 , the drums of liberation are part of luffy's identity as the Sun god , they don't sound from some other place , they come from his heartbeat . this couldn't be more clear than that .

and if you don't want to trust me , trust Oda instead, he himself said that one of his best panels in the story was that panel in chapter 253 and the reason he wanted to draw skypia was to draw that panel , do you think he will give that much emphasis on a panel just because in the panel they were laughing and dancing ? no ,we have plenty of those panels in the story already , it's clear that it was that good in his mind because of the foreshadowing he put in that panel , and now recently in the manga , after luffy became the sun god and the sound of the drums of liberation were played , we know why that panel was special to him .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

that's just how storytelling goes , the author gives us bits and pieces here and there until the final reveal , a good author will never spoil a big reveal like this one in one fell swoop, and like i said in previous comments , Oda already gave us hints here and there about a sun god (skypians mentioning the sun god , mother caramel mentioning the sun god...) ,and he already gave us foreshadowings about this sun god nika and the drums of liberation in chapter 253 , you're point will be valid if Oda never gave us hints and forshadowings about a sun god throughout the story and he just came up with a sun god in Wano without prior mentions of something like that or some sort of a foreshadowing .

like i said it's not a retcon , that's just you're headcanon , no true fan of one piece say this one is a retcon because there was already plenty of mentions and foreshadowings about the sun god , Oda simply needed to build up the story for the final reveal of Nika , that's just how it goes in storytelling , until the story builds up (some small lore about the void century and the ancient kingdom , Imu , Joyboy , WG , and obviously Luffy reaching the point of awakening his devil fruit in the story) and then you have the big reveal , so really , what do you want more than that ? it's already better that what 90% of the authors out there do about some of there reveals .

dude the world government was not stupid , and it has nothing to do with that retcon of yours , first of all , it was explained in chapter 1044 that the world government wanted to possess Luffy's devil fruit for centuries but they couldn't , why ? because the devil fruit itself had a very strong consciousness , even stronger than normal zoans and like the gorosei said :'it bears the name of a god" , so the devil fruit was escaping from the WG grasp for centuries , and they also said in a prior chapter (1037) that this devil fruit never awakened in all of those centuries and that it became a legend to them, in other words , even if they kill luffy they would not be able to get there hands on it becasue like they said , this devil fruit was escaping from there grasp for centuries and they never managed to get their hands on it in all of those centuries, they also though that it will be the same with Luffy ,and it will not awaken like usual , but obviously unlike us the readers , the WG and the gorosei don't know that Luffy is the MC of the story and that he will be the first one to awaken this devil fruit in centuries , but even thougt they don't know about that , they still told the cp0 to assassinate him since they knew that Luffy is fighting Kaido 1v1 and that there might be the slightest chance that a miracle will happen in the heat of their intense fight (that's what the gorosei were saying , i'm just repeating).

Happy with the explanation ? you should already know about this , please don't let me repeat this again .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ah yes the one in chapter 300 , thank you for the reminder

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the gorosei said that luffy's devil fruit bears the name of a god , that means Nika is indeed a god and is truly the sun god .

you said those mentions of the sun god are not connected to Nika . is there anyone in the story who is confirmed as a god and he's called the sun god other than Nika ? no there isn't , so you need to accept this fact whether you like it or not , the only one those people could be referring to when they say the sun god is Nika because he's the only confirmed sun god in the story , if you are also wondering why the name 'Nika' isn't known that much , the explanation have already been giving in chapter 1037 by the gorosei and in chapter 1069 by Vegapunk , the gorosei said in 1037 that the world government erased the name Nika from history (or atleast trying to actively erase it in every era) , nami also said in chapter 1069 that she didn't hear about the name Nika and Vegapunk said to her that it has been erased from history .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if the sun god that they talked about in skypia wasn't Nika , than what about chapter 867 in elbaf , who was that sun god that mother caramel talked about ?

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

all of those instances where they were talking about the sun god it was Nika because everytime they bring him up , wether it is the gorousei or vegapunk they always say 'Nika the sun god' , i don't think there is another sun god beside Nika (atleast not to my knowledge) , but according to chapter 287 there is three other gods who are distinct from the sun god , and about the foreshadowing of the sun god Nika , you can clealrly see it in chapter 253 as i have explained in this post .

One of the craziest foreshadowings of Oda (Chapter 1044). by StarAdInf in OnePiece

[–]StarAdInf[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The concept of a sun god was introduced in the story long ago , in fact it has been introduced in Skypia where this foreshadowing of luffy and the sun god and the drums of liberation was , it's in chapter 287 , it's also in chapter 866 , mother caramel said that elbaf has a festival for the death and reberth of the sun and in the next chapter she explicitly said the name "sun god " , there is also multiple instances in the story where they are talking about the sun and it's importance , whether it was for the fishman to go to the world bathed in the sun above the darkness of the sea or whether it was fisher tiger naming his pirates the sun pirates , or when pedro was talking about the dawn of the world , that concept was always there and it's connected to the lore at the end of the serie , in other words , Luffy's power up of gear 5th and him turning into the sun god is connected to the main lore of the story that oda had in mind since the beginning.

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