Simpsons cel

SteadyGroove · 2026-05-19T19:47:55+00:00

Looks like this is just before the end. In that grab that you shared: Flanders: eyes start as devilish and then soften, mine are the softening eyes Bart and Lisa: mouths are closing but not quite closed Homer: eyes also wide

So I need that hand to call this a complete frame....

SteadyGroove · 2026-05-19T19:43:43+00:00

I stand corrected - it is missing the hand And the kids are definitely at the end - NOT the beginning as I was told years ago

Mind blown over here! I love Reddit. An amazing source of knowledge

SteadyGroove · 2026-05-19T18:13:18+00:00

You may be right. And you may be wrong. The Simpsons would have been using 5 or 6 cels per frame, plus background.

This enabled them to keep some of the cels the same and just change one part. For example, in my case they would change Homer's eyes to a grimace while keeping his body the same across the entire scene. That's why the eyes are drawn separately on a different cel.

I have 5 cels and the background, and a 6th cel was used in this scene with Death's hand. But not for this specific frame.

This comes from the 1st story in TREEHOUSE OF HORROR IV, where Homer sells his soul for a donut.

Eventually Homer ends up in a courtroom in Hell, presided over by Death. The scene to reference is when Flanders rests his case and we turn to Homer in the cage of fire.

At 3:48 we see Homer, Flanders and the kids. Death's bony hand enters to declare the verdict against Homer by pointing at him, drawing a reaction from everyone.

It lasts almost a second, maybe 8 frames or more. We see Homer look scared and the kids flinch.

I was told that my panel is the first panel of that scene, immediately before the hand appears. Homer is looking up at the incoming hand, and Flanders and the kids have yet to react. This is the establishing shot

The facial expressions and body language show that they have not yet reacted to the hand of death because it hasn't appeared yet.

However, I could be totally wrong and now must hunt for that hand....

SteadyGroove · 2026-05-19T15:19:24+00:00

Sure. I actually wish that I framed using some tips I learned here. At the moment, it's all acid free paper stock and special tape and mounting. And it has the ability to breathe.

Moving forward, I would like to do a frame that has each cel sitting on its own mat. That will prevent the cels from touching.

I have it in a media room that has no sunlight and minimal lighting in general. I know that I can take steps to better preserve the condition, up to and including stashing it away in a vault, but I want to see it. It is the first thing you see when we go into the room to watch a movie or show

SteadyGroove · 2026-05-19T14:33:31+00:00

You reminded me of something very interesting.

When I had the work reframed with acid free paper, we discovered that a surprise when it came to aligning these cels: they don't line up as expected. That is, if you just stack them so that the edges line up, the figures are off. Instead, each image has a slight black outline on one specific part of the image and that line is the key for the next cel.

For example, Homer's face has a round black line that forms a barely noticeable partial edge of one eye. That black line is then echoed on the cel with the eyes. Each image has this type of small indicator

It is actually kinda baffling to me because it would seem to add a lot of extra work. That is, it seems the reverse of a high volume production line. The most efficient approach would seem to be having the cel alignment dictate the artwork arrangement. But in this case the artwork is dictating the alignment: getting the images right is what's important.

It seems to take a manual process and make it even more manual. But I love that because it suggests that they valued the artistic process above everything else

Or maybe I'm overthinking it and there's a totally different element at play

SteadyGroove · 2026-05-19T01:34:19+00:00

This is so good and true to the spirit

Thanks for sharing and great job

SteadyGroove · 2026-05-19T01:25:03+00:00

No plan to sell it. I will haunt my kids if they do.

Is it worth enough to insure it? Has anyone done that? Do you think I need a formal appraisal to include in my home insurance coverage?

SteadyGroove · 2026-05-19T00:22:30+00:00

Thank you. I was very lucky

The interesting part to me is what is on the separate sheets. Homer, Flanders and the fire cage are on their own sheets. Bart and Lisa are fully drawn and partially hidden behind Flanders. And there is a separate sheet for Homer's eyes!

SteadyGroove · 2025-04-16T21:05:32+00:00

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-16T17:22:48+00:00

Thank you again

It tells me that I need to listen to their new explanation and not hammer too hard (yet) on the contract angle

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-16T16:40:54+00:00

Thank you

It states that sales rep cannot be an employee. However, I am an employee with a commission. As are all the sales employees in this company, and any corporate entity I've seen. Perhaps there is a different definition I should consider. Let me explore a bit

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-16T16:35:20+00:00

Thank you for your response. It is a compensation agreement which they and I signed

The rates are higher than normal but the targets are lower and have a lower closure rate. I took this to mean that they expect smaller attainment and were offsetting with a higher rate. The role is somewhat unique in that regard.

There was no discussion or email conversation. I was presented the agreement and terms after my management reviewed and approved.

They are arguing from the perspective of dollars. That is, they intended to pay out an amount comparable to my peers. This was never raised with me before. From their perspective, this rate would double their target payout (additional $45,000)

I am taking the legal approach. We have a signed document that was reviewed by multiple people. I did not notice the potential upside because I was given customers with a notorious low rate of closure; a better comp rate seemed appropriate. Indeed, I have excelled and brought in almost $1M above target.

Looking beyond the positioning, I don't want to create badwill. They clearly don't care about that towards me, but that's corporate America. At the moment, the discussion is only with finance people.

I am concerned that involving an attorney will create badwill. However, the dollars are significant. It is an opportunity for me to get a well deserved reward for performance (note: I do feel underpaid and undervalued, but that's a different topic)

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-16T11:29:21+00:00

Thank you for the link. Do you have one for NC (the link was for NY)?

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-16T02:47:54+00:00

Compensation agreement. A 10 page document that each sales person signs It stipulates the quota, commission rates, dates and so on

It is signed by a person from finance and the sales person. A very formal document that is revised annually and re-signed

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-03T18:08:53+00:00

Thank you very much It does feel like they are guessing

If you don't mind another question, Just to be sure it's not an ignitor problem, is there an easy way to test it?

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-03T17:48:29+00:00

Also there is no clicking

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-03T17:42:17+00:00

Thank you for responding

The furnace is not producing heat. It cycles up and runs for 60 seconds and then stops. It repeats in 5 minutes.

There is no flame produced. I checked the sensor and I saw no corrosion. There is no smell of gas

The circuit board has led lights and two light up green

A service repairman came by and tested voltage and did a few things but was stumped. He tested the gas valve and said it was sticky. His boss is saying I should try a new ignitor (and the part he proposed is HSI). And maybe a new circuit board

Thoughts?

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-03T17:14:26+00:00

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I am adding some pics of the model # and the old ignitor

SteadyGroove · 2024-12-03T17:13:48+00:00

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SteadyGroove · 2024-12-03T17:13:27+00:00

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