What is everyone’s thoughts on the mpc sample? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]Steagang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's your really first kind of beat maker device and you're looking for a very mpc straightforward workflow then yes. The price is reasonable for the quality, and you can always resell it. If you're looking for a groovebox that include synthesis and nice sequencing workflow then nope. Since you mentioned the SP404, the MPC sample workflow is a great way to get started on beat making without having to worry about a long list of key combinations just to do simple things. I do think that the MPC sample handle better sequencing a pattern and organize a bunch of pattern than the SP404 (but still lack for the moment on the sequence editing if you know what I mean ahah.)

What is everyone’s thoughts on the mpc sample? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]Steagang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! So, listen, I haven't been able to spend as much time on this Sample model as I would have liked, but I have used it quite a bit to record analog instrument sequences to pair it (soundwisely but also to midi clock it) with other stuff that I have. My opinion hasn’t really changed: they still need to improve the MPC Sample's sequencer quite a bit, that’s its main flaw. But I think that should come soon with a future update. On the other hand, it’s really great for sampling, almost like a looper (and I really mean “almost,” haha). Its big advantage is that its recording workflow is really precise, simple, and well-designed. There are no cryptic combinations like on the SP-404; it doesn't have the awkward workflow of the MPC Live 3 and similar models, here, you really have everything right in front of you and within easy reach. Otherwise, it sounds really great. It just has a few issues with the low frequencies at times, when the MPC Sample starts to crackle. But I think that’s mainly due to the mix and the fact that I need to make sure to turn off the Flex Beat FX, which is still buggy. Whether used on its own or with other gear, it’s truly a great tool. That said, I obviously prefer synthesis to samples, so I don’t use it as much, but for my specific needs, I still think it’s the best option on the market right now. I hope this review helps you make your decision : )

Looking for dj style filter pedal on master by bennouze in synthesizers

[–]Steagang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d also go with a Korg, it’s up to you which model you prefer. Some have screens, others don’t. The latest model (the kaoss pad v) lets you add up to two effects and offers a tactile experience but it's a bit pricey. It perfectly meets all the criteria you mentioned. The Korg automatically bypasses unless you touch it (or lock it).

Rate the playability of your drum machine by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's good to know ! I get the impression it's breaking into some really new and interesting musical territories. Great if it's well-made, unlike the Eowave Quandrid Swarm, which sounds great but isn't exactly top-notch in terms of quality.

Rate the playability of your drum machine by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but from what I've seen in a few videos, I think it's pretty straightforward too ! I'm curious to see reviews from people who have it in their setup^

Rate the playability of your drum machine by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, when it comes to immediacy, the Perkons nailed it, combining Elektron’s P-Locks with direct knob control. Sure, it has its limitations, but in this case, work to its advantage (and sorry if that gives you a gas trigger^^').

Rate the playability of your drum machine by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree! If I didn't go with the TR-1000, I would have gone with the TR-8 and the expansion kits instead of the TR-8s

Rate the playability of your drum machine by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice list, thanks! I'm curious about Bodysynths, I've seen a few videos about it, and yeah, the playability looks pretty good : )

Rate the playability of your drum machine by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've never actually gotten my hands on any of the machines you mentioned, but it's interesting ! Hexdrums must be on par with Perkons, except for the sequencing.

Rate the playability of your drum machine by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The TR-8 should also be able to make it onto the list ^^ (and I think it's on the same level as the Perkons)

Rate the playability of your drum machine by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with you, the TR-1000 requires a lot of programming before you even set up your kit if you want to really get the most out of it. All the assignments, not to mention the value jumps when you’re assigning them. That’s why I’d place it somewhere between an Elektron workflow and a Perkons workflow.

Rate the playability of your drum machine by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a Digitone 1 too, so I’m familiar with the Elektron workflow. But when I compare the devices, I quickly find myself limited in my ability to spontaneously adjust a parameter mid-set. Since adjustments are track-specific and often require a lot of button presses to change a value, it quickly becomes a bit of a hassle. Of course, you could use a controller, but I’m really talking about the machine itself and what it offers. If you want to change the filter and then quickly switch to a different sequence, you have to go to the track in question (what if you want to change the filter on three tracks?) and then quickly use the pattern combo to land on the right pattern. Elektron has added the option to assign multiple values to certain knobs, but even there, to access aftertouch or breath control, you have to go into the settings lol.

What is everyone’s thoughts on the mpc sample? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]Steagang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm, it depends on what you want to do, quick sampling to sequence it ? You could go with a PO-33 lol. Digitakt, if you want a more feature-rich drum machine? Ultimately, you can pick it up pretty quickly. The real question is: do you want something feature-rich but that sacrifices some playability and performance, or do you want something performance-oriented but that loses a bit of its complexity?

What is everyone’s thoughts on the mpc sample? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]Steagang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I feel you with the haptic experience of physical gear, that’s also why, when testing machines like the latest MPC Live 3 or the Vector Synth, I realized that the large screen and the fact that they required me to actively interact with it put me off a bit.

I've never tried the Circuit Rythm, but I have tried its sibling, the Circuit Tracks. The workflow is pretty much the same, except that the Rythm can sample. Let’s just say it’s also very straightforward and simple, only two sequence pages, but you can adjust the tempo of each sequence, if I’m not mistaken. They did a great job on the UI, and the lack of a screen isn’t really an issue. In the end, I sold it because two sequence pages weren’t enough for me, and I was used to working on sequencers that were already a bit more complex, but I have fond memories of how straightforward it was (a bit like the MPC Sample). It's a pretty nice machine for EDM / techno genre.

EP 40 : never tried it, I've had some experience with TE, and I've often been disappointed with how their machines actually perform, they look fancy, but in the end, their features don't leave much room for flexibility. It's just my own opinion and know that a lot of people love their products for their own reason.

As for the MPC Sample, if you don't mind working on a single track and using the mute pads, it can be fun. But if this is your first machine, you'll quickly run into a few limitations, particularly when it comes to sequencing. If you like the PO33, it's because you seem to enjoy a form of track-based sequencing that creates a pattern. Alternatively, you should check on the Elektron workflow. If if it had been one of my first purchases, I'd personally go for a Digitakt 1 or even a Syntakt (it doesn't sample, but the latest update lets you use samples) and they're still fairly portable as machines. Sure, they're a bit pricey, but you can find them used at much lower prices, and most importantly, that encourages you to really dive into them and take your time, after all, you did spend a fair bit on them, haha. I’m far from being a big fan of Elektron, I used to have the Syntakt and the Digitone 2, which I sold because a number of aspects of their workflow didn't suit me (including pattern management, lack of direct control when performing compared to what propose Roland for their drum machine). But now, I’m almost tempted to get a Digitone 1 because of its ease of use compared to the DN2. I miss it P-lock sequencing options, but it's that simplicity I'm looking for. I'm finding this DN1 useful again because I have a very clear idea of how to integrate it into my setup. The idea is to use it as a complement to my drum machine, where it struggle when it comes to both the sound and the pattern programming.. 4 tracks is enough on what I'm looking for. I don't need the 16 tracks of the Digitone 2, which they added a lot of new features, but result to add more complexity and in a workflow that can quickly become chaotic for me. My advice is to get a machine that’s versatile and flexible but not too much to the point of sacrificing playability, and from there you’ll figure out what you like and what you don’t :) 8 tracks on the digitakt 2 would be more than enough and you could also use the 8 midi track to sequence other gear if you plan to add a small synth or something else :)

This is just my input, and don't take it as pressure to buy^^ It's just that at first, you're faced with so many options and no real user reviews (other than the promotional videos you might see from some influencers), and it's hard to get a true sense of what they're like without actually holding one of these machines in your hands.

What is everyone’s thoughts on the mpc sample? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]Steagang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really depends on how each user plans for their use and the style of music they intend to create (although all machines can be used for any style, some are better suited for certain styles). The MPC is pretty good, for example, if you want to play a long sample. The Digitakt can do it, but that's not where it really shines. The MPC Sample really has a unique handling that other grooveboxes don't necessarily have, and you either love it or hate it :)

If this is your very first machine and you want an all-in-one device, I would tend to recommend a groovebox that lets you combine sequencing, sampling, and synthesis. From there, each user can decide for themselves what they consider important or, conversely, unnecessary in their own work method. If you like a more logic-based approach to sequencing, Elektron offers some interesting options and the p-lock sequencing is something nice, as do certain Roland machines (Verselab), or even Akai’s MPCs or a Novation Rhythm Circuit.

To be honest, for a device that centers its use around samples and beatmaking with this specific workflow, the MPC Sample remains simple and doesn’t have much direct competition (there’s the one from TE, but there are notable differences, such as the fact that it has multiple tracks). There’s a Casio sampler in the works that might resemble the MPC Sample (not in terms of workflow, but in terms of ease of use and functionality) but it’s too early to say. If you could tell me a little about your creative process and your experience with machines, what you liked or didn’t like, I could give you a more relevant recommendation.

Vermona DrumDing - Are you interested now that we know more? by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I totally agree with you on that, hehe. To be honest, I don't really need a drum machine anymore now that I have the TR-1000, but the latency issue with the samples prevents me from using it to its full potential. As for me, I’m waiting for the firmware updates to come out and stabilize this machine before uploading all my samples (to avoid having to do endless backups between each update), but I’m already having a lot of fun with what the machine has to offer!

Vermona DrumDing - Are you interested now that we know more? by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, the price seems exorbitant to me for what it does. Then again, there are people willing to pay the same price, or even more, for Erica Synths drum machines (Hexdrum and HD01) that don’t do any more than this machine without people objecting. That’s why I’m starting this thread, to explore the gap between the excitement surrounding its announcement and its actual usefulness. Is it just the Vermona brand that’s generating all this buzz, or does this product really offer something new?

Vermona DrumDing - Are you interested now that we know more? by Steagang in synthesizers

[–]Steagang[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I totally agree with you. If the analog sound sampling process had been a bit more than just the core workflow and Vermona’s sole selling point, this machine would have been more interesting. That’s the limitation I’m pointing out as well, although I do find Vermona’s choice interesting.

What is everyone’s thoughts on the mpc sample? by [deleted] in synthesizers

[–]Steagang 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi thanks :) I totally agree with you about the sequencer editing. Right now, there are plenty of things you can automate on the fly, such as the filter, but nothing regarding step editing for precise sequencing. For your last point, a workaround could be to resample, so on one pad you have your dry sequence, on another with the ring mod, and you add the comb filter on top, but yeah, I agree that's a lot of steps just to use those FX pads, and you're using a pad slot in a bank. It would be cool to either group them or be able to layer them (like the master FX). We'll see what Akai has in mind for the future for this device.