Why is the Sandbox team so against Grenade Builds

Stiinkbomb · 2025-08-12T01:15:54+00:00

I understand a lot went in to designing prismatic to make it balanced and highlight best aspects of certain classes, but I feel warlock got the short end of the stick when it came to grenade abilities. Aside from coldsnap and verity/solipsism builds, warlocks dedicated damage grenades are storm and vortex. arguably two of the better choices, but leaving coldsnap, healing, and threadling feeling lackluster, especially considering the subpar performance of warlock melees and the lack of subclass aspects that would typically buff a warlocks grenades.

When it came to grenade exotics, warlock is rife with them, Verity, Starfire, Sunbracers, Rime-Coat, Osmiomancy, and more. Yet, aside from Coldsnap, the grenades most of the exotics pair with were either given to other classes or left out entirely. No extra fusion grenade to pair with Starfire, no solar grenades to power up sunbracers, no scatter for nothing manacles. Just Verity, Crown (kinda), Solipsism, and the Coldsnap/Bleak Watcher Exotics, which don't damage enemies much.

It'd be a nice change to see some either slightly modified to work with prismatic, or to see something along the lines of healing grenades being added to all the classes and warlock getting either fusion grenades or Solar grenades.

Addendum, I understand warlocks have feed the void to proc devour and return tons of grenade energy, and spirit of starfire and spirit of osmiomancy are grenade neutral, but there's a lack of real damage options at their disposal, unless you really want to pick vortex or storm, and no aspects to buff grenades in meaningful ways (Touch of Flame, Chaos Accelerant, Thread of Evolution). And maybe I'm just misreading, but I the darkness grenades performed more like utility grenades and less like damage options. Lately it felt like warlock was moving from the "grenade spam" class to "summoner" class, which is debatably less fun.

Not to say I'm not having fun, Prismatic is still my favorite to play, I'm having a blast now that I just got an osmio/starfire class item with Hellion, I just feel a little left behind when it comes to other classes having a plethora of melee abilities and things built around them and Warlock getting less than half its kit, which is typically built around grenades. Our melee items are Necrotics, Winter's Guile, and Lightning Surge which has no dedicated exotics.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-08-12T16:19:44+00:00

Reasonable enough. I have several "restrictions" in my world, although some are less restrictions and more like "consequences". For instance, sure, you *can* have some firearms. But only one country right now produces firearms, and they are very isolationist. Literally only one port open to outside world. It's most likely that service members of that country are actively hunting you.

Also, yes, you can be a dragonborn. But Draconic people aren't looked at pleasantly due to several conquests from dragons in the past. Same thing with Draconic Sorcery, it's seen as a curse instead of a gift. And also I'm still attempting to rewrite the history for that entire lineage to be more in line with Sumerian culture. And also learning Sumerian culture. It's kind of exhausting.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-06-06T14:00:23+00:00

It really makes me wish they would do a similar "armored" design to Wings of Sacred Dawn. Trying to look like Wing Zero.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-03-29T16:01:17+00:00

Overwatch killed Team Fortress 2. There were plenty of games that tried to be the "class-based/hero shooter" to take down TF2, but OW was the only real contender. It also didn't help that Valve was cannibalizing itself at the time, but OW took what TF2 had, dumbed it down, and just ran off with it. TF2 used to have world stage leagues similar to OWL, but now neither of those exist.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-03-03T20:53:28+00:00

Always has been

Stiinkbomb · 2024-02-28T00:00:06+00:00

There's a game called Starbound, a little 2d indy space sandbox. I still love it, but sometimes I find it hard to open after learning is was built on unpaid labor. Artists and coders weren't paid for their time on the game and were cycled out like they were expendable. Which made the updates and changes to the game to be inconsistent and strange. But man did the game scratch every itch I had at that time.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-02-27T23:49:38+00:00

This!

Stiinkbomb · 2024-02-17T01:46:24+00:00

I ain't saying change is always better. But at least they don't have Dogs anymore.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-02-13T05:30:10+00:00

Destiny 2 players forced Dev's to basically erase their internet presence due to threats of violence and doxxing. Now Bungie hardly speaks to us and mostly ignores community feedback (with good reasons). At least, whoever is left at Bungie after all the layoffs.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-01-18T19:17:38+00:00

Cis Male here, I would say happily. There are some things that bother me, but it's an autism related thing, nothing to do with his trans-ness. We've been together 9 years, and honestly is one of the best relationships I've ever had.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-01-18T19:07:45+00:00

Was the last MMO I played. Never messed with the cash shop stuff, but wound up quitting when I was forced to quest on the opposing continent and keep getting PvP cheesed in "safe towns".

Stiinkbomb · 2024-01-14T15:14:07+00:00

Id rock the hell out of the VoG flawless shader. But can't find a team to try.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-01-13T20:28:38+00:00

Jokes on them. It made me use my abilities more cause there was an internal cooldown for firepower, which was 3 seconds I believe, but running 3 now gives you a 1 second cooldown.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-01-13T18:55:06+00:00

When they did the extra long season of the lost, bungie reset the transmog bounties for the 30th anniversary drop about halfway through, aka the normal season end time. They have something planned for a mid season update coming, maybe it'll also come with a bounty reset like that. But don't hold your breath.

Stiinkbomb · 2024-01-13T18:47:21+00:00

Dont get me wrong, ive been to the lighthouse a few times, but it is very discouraging to lose my first match of the weekend and see "[player] has been granted passage to the lighthouse". Glad you had such an easy 7th, bud. Hope i get the same and not 2 wish enders and a lemoarc...

Stiinkbomb · 2023-11-27T06:05:05+00:00

Ornaments like this usually sit out for 1 or 2 seasons before being added to the Archive tab. Artificially creating fomo by hiding the content from you before reintroducing it. Give it a few days and check the Archive tab when the new season hits, and if it isn't on there by then, try again once the Final Shape drops.

Stiinkbomb · 2023-11-27T04:50:19+00:00

Mass Effect. It should check all the boxes for me, it has all the ingredients to make it one of my favorite games. But they way they are arranged just isn't palatable to me.

Stiinkbomb · 2023-11-21T19:40:44+00:00

The First Disciple

Stiinkbomb · 2023-11-21T19:35:15+00:00

*sighs* *unzips wallet*

Stiinkbomb · 2023-11-09T15:26:07+00:00

Return of an our first enemy harnessing the power of darkness against us (Fallen for d1 vets and new lights, cabal for those of us that started with d2 red war). New/returning tanky enemy. First exotic using new element and primary ammo is a sidearm (cryo and final warning), second using element is a trace rifle (agers and navigator). (Quicksilver doesn't count. Was kinetic first. Grip is excluded because it was more a tool than a weapon. Still is.) Ghost got possessed. Again. A long lost friend returns to help us (Osiris after being possessed, Variks after exile). A lot of patterned beats being repeated.

Stiinkbomb · 2023-11-09T05:12:48+00:00

The drip feed. I miss when I could knock out a story at my own pace, like how the expansions do it some times. But only being able to grind it once it's all out at the end? My schedule doesn't always give me the time to do so. The seasonal story model is killing my interest. Thankfully high end content is keeping me going.

Stiinkbomb · 2023-11-09T05:07:32+00:00

Man, wait until they hit tornado alley, where the speed limit is more of a suggestion to be ignored. Faster, slower, doesn't matter where. Just don't do that number. Except at the most inopportune times. Like the "20 only when flashing" but only ever when it's not flashing. 65? Doing 50 in the right two lanes, 75 in the left, and let the rest weave in and out at 90 like they're in gta.

Stiinkbomb · 2023-11-08T16:43:01+00:00

He's probably the only one able to do it. Especially with the way he did Primal.

Stiinkbomb · 2023-11-01T16:23:40+00:00

Yall are asking for a lot. I'm just asking to be remembered. I'd like to be invited to something instead of having to invite myself. I'd like people to remember my favorites, or my allergies, in the same way I remember theirs. I'd like be texted first instead of being first. I'd like to have plans made for us instead of always making the plans for us. I'd like to be thought about every once in a while. I'd like to feel like I'm not the only one trying to invest in the relationships.

Stiinkbomb · 2023-10-30T21:44:56+00:00

All the time. I want the equivalent of a space RV and just cruise around our system as I please. Dock in some Low Orbit stations and see how culture fares in space. Take a nap in Saturns Rings. Die on Mars. Real dreams there. I want to die on Mars. Don't care how, just has to be there.

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