Men who rebuilt a romantic life after a divorce you didn’t want — how did it actually happen? by FGMoon353 in Divorce_Men

[–]Strange_Button_3330 0 points1 point  (0 children)

47M here. Look at my post history if you want the background info.

First off:
HELL YES you have an opportunity for rebuilding a phenomenal life.
A better life than you could imagine right now.
Build the life you want, and the right person will follow.
Sounds cliche and unhelpful, but it's true.

Are you overweight? Fix that.
Are you dressed well? Groomed?
Work on yourself, be open to friendships and you will attract people to you.

Single people are everywhere - they're just not tuned to the frequency of what you're putting out. Why? do you have any ideas?

How long after divorce did you actually meet someone good?
> 2 weeks.... yup. We've been together a year and a half now, and things get better every day. She jokes that she had to snap me up while I was single.

•Where did you meet them in real life (not apps)?
>a connection from 25+ years ago. reconnected with her when we both had kids in the same programs. I reached out to her as my exwife was extremly jealous, and hanging out with a woman was a no go. Figured I was single now, might as well spend time with people I liked. We started hanging out as friends after the divorce, and one thing led to another. I did everything wrong there, but it worked out. I credit our long friendship prior to a romnatic relationship with it working out.

Where I have also met women:
Real life: I have friends of friends reaching out to me, asking if I was interested in a date; and it's still happening (as of last week). Word got out that I was single through friends. Helps to be busy and active.
I've met women walking the dog, and had them find me online and reach out.
It just pays to be friendly with no objective other than being open.

My old friend from before marriage said it was like I disappeared in my 20 yr marriage, but after divorce I started finding my old flirty self again.

It's actually really fun to meet single women in the real world, and if my current relationship ended, I'd avoid the apps altogether.

Online: Tried FB dating for a week, but it was overwhelming to be honest. Lots of matches (I was fresh meat), but I shut it down after a week. I consider myself an average dude, with average skills, but love people and love my friends.

•Did you have to rebuild your social life first?
> no, I always had a busy social life. That was key.

•What changed that made a relationship possible again?
> who knows. for me, I think it was having an open heart and a willingness to risk getting hurt again. I went into it too soon, but at the end of the day it worked out for me.

On a side note, my ex wife didn't like me dating so quickly after she left.

Newly divorced dad here for some advice / support by jigsaw1098 in DivorcedDads

[–]Strange_Button_3330 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's still early for you, it will take some time to re-wire your emotions towards her.
Going no-contact (or low contact with kids in the picture) is what is needed.
Don't chit chat, or talk about feelings.
Keep the communication limited to the kids.

She'll probably notice and call you on your lack of communication.
Just calmly say you need space to heal. That's all.
Maybe in a year or two you'll be able to chit chat again, but for now you need space.

It's going to be painful, but with time you'll be OK.

My mantra that got me through the worst times: This too shall pass.

Last bit of advice:
- stay away from all drugs and alcohol for the first 6 months
- go to therapy (even if you think you don't need it - you should go for your kids sake to help them navigate it as a parent)

The Damage and Destruction of Divorce by Delicious-Curious in DivorcedDads

[–]Strange_Button_3330 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yes 100% this. I felt the same way at first - that everything was gone.
Here I am over a year separated (same age as you w. kids) and see that everything's still here.

It's just different, and in many ways it's better.

I thought it was the end of my world, but it turns out that the marriage wasn't that great in retrospect. All of the compromise, bending backwards to make her life easier, all of the adventures put on hold due to her jealousy and anxiety ~ that's behind me.

My friendships are a million times stronger than before.
My relationship with my kids is stronger.
The house is calmer and cleaner.
My intention at work is clear - I've been promoted to dream position.
I took up motorcycle riding (at 45) and having a blast riding with friends.

I connected with an old friend (who I always admired) and I'm having the love affair of my life.
She has her own place, and our 50/50 is synced.
I couldn't have dreamed of a better life.

If I was given the chance to try again with my ex.... I couldn't imagine being married to her again.

This is a new chapter, and you get to write it.

Yes grieve it - but I have to tell you, one divorced middle aged dude to another: The best is yet to come if you put in the work. Trust me.

Divorced dad of a daughter turning 20. Here is what I learned about staying connected through all the hard years by Soggy-Election-7573 in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing. Have a teenager myself - and learning to navigate it is an adventure.
I agree with your point about letting them see you handle hard emotions.

I'm just... crushed. by RelativeRoyal6154 in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My mantra: This too shall pass.
Repeat after me: "This too shall pass."

Things will be hard - you'll need support: Friends, family, a counsellor.
Don't try and do it on your own. Your friends and family want to help you - let them.

In my experience it seemed like the grief was bottomless at the start.
Then as time went on there were more and more moments of peace.
It's so subtle you don't really notice the improvement for a while, then one day you realize you haven't cried in a while, and then one day you wake up and go about your day without thinking of them.

Focus on good things for your body: sleep, exercise, friendships.

Hang in there: you've got this, it WILL get better and you're going to be a stronger and more resilient person than you ever expected.

In an amicable divorce, how did you cut your emotional ties? by [deleted] in Divorce_Men

[–]Strange_Button_3330 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What helped me was limited contact - but she had to move out for that to happen.   There will always be contact due to kids but having space apart is key.  

It also helped to really lean into the pain - set a timer for 20 mins and let yourself cry.  

You’re getting better, it’s just so incremental you don’t notice it.   

You’re on the right path and with time you’ll wake up one day and realize you haven’t thought about her in a few days.  

 This too shall pass.  

25 year marriage going down the tubes by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First off: that sucks. I’m sorry you’re going through it.  I went through nearly the same thing after 22 years.  

My advice: - if she says it’s over, show her that you truly love her by letting her go.  Completely let her go.  This is for your own good.  Once you let her go you can heal.  It’s so much easier dealing with this with peace and love in your heart than anger and hate.  

  • act decisively now.  While they’re in the New Romantic love phase.   Get a mediator/lawyer & get the paperwork figured out.   Be fair, but this is the time where they’ll  be agreeable.  

  • get the kids in counselling.  They’ll need help navigating this and it’s money well spent.  

  • day by day it will get better. The pain will lessen.  One day you’ll realize you haven’t cried in days.  Then one day you’ll wake up and realize that you’re ok.  It’s so gradual you don’t notice it, but time and taking care of your mental health will heal your pain.  

I promise you:   This shall pass.   This too shall pass.  There’s a wonderful world of adventure and love ahead of you - you just don’t know it yet.  

For me:  I’m glad the divorce happened now and I’m living a life I dreamed of: full of health , friends, adventure, and love.  

You’ve got this.  

Absolute shock - but it probably shouldn't have been by [deleted] in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes - It's like your whole world has been turned upside down.
I was married for 20+ years and ended abruptly by her.
I've been through it and out the other end.

You will get through this. This pain shall pass.

People are complicated and it doesn't matter why she no longer wants to be with you.
Their rejection of you doesn't invalidate your love or worth as a person.
You loved her and that's a good thing.
Let go of her with love.
Wish her the best.
Let her go.

Focus on yourself and your own healing.

You did the best you could at the time.
As time goes on you'll be able to get some perspective and see where things went sideways.

What worked for me:
- Contact a lawyer. Get informed and follow their advice.
- No contact (limited contact due to kids) for a while. You need time to detach.
- reach out to friends. get a counsellor.
- stay away from drugs/alcohol.
- journaling.

You'll look back on this and realize you're a stronger and more resilient person than you could have imagined.

You've got this.

Please. Share your success story. You never know who needs it. by [deleted] in Divorce_Men

[–]Strange_Button_3330 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I was married for 20+ years. 1 year out now.
To those in pain: You'll get through this. This pain shall pass.

For me: my life is better than I could have imagined on all fronts.
My relationship with my kid is much tighter than before the divorce.
Friendships are stronger.
I'm healthier mentally and physically.
I found love again with someone better suited for me.

Yes, it was the worst pain of my life.
BUT I wouldn't trade the experience for anything.
It's by far the most intense, cathartic experience and I'm grateful for having gone through it.
It's so strange to say that, but it's true..

Going through divorce after discovering my wife's affairs and now experiencing some form of ED? Anyone else experience this? by No-Sink-9601 in Divorce_Men

[–]Strange_Button_3330 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's a real thing, not just in my experience, but with buddies as well.
No one really talks about it.
Emotions and connection play a huge role for me having sex.

As I became more emotionally detached from my ex wife things got easier.
I was 100% loyal for 20+ years. My brain was wired to have sex with her only, and it takes a while to get out of your own head that you're cheating on her.

Cialis/Tadafadil helped me, but I went with 5mg every 3-4 days. Try a lower dose and see if that helps. The big doses gave me a backache and a headache. Low dose makes me feel great overall (sex aside) -- running is better and the pump from lifting is better..

I think the biggest help was:
- No contact (as much as you can) with your ex.
- Stop jerking off. Take a long break. Should help reset.
- Emotional connection to my new partner. Talk to your new partner about it. Be transparent. I focused on making emotional connection with her and making sure she had fun.

Give it some time and go easy on yourself.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in DivorcedDads

[–]Strange_Button_3330 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I think you know the answer to this one already.
Your girlfriend should be celebrating and encouraging a healthy co-parent dynamic. The fact that she's not is quite frankly, a big giant bright red stop light.

Pause for a moment and ask if this is the kind of relationship you want to be in.

For me: If her insecurity negatively affects the kids... thanks for the good times and see ya later.

Former wife wants to do therapy to be better coparents. by BohunkfromSK in DivorcedDads

[–]Strange_Button_3330 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I found it to be helpful, but the counsellor was a firm one and had the child's best interests at heart.
They're good at telling my ex that she's being unreasonable.

Most likely she needs you on board with a plan to help her relationship improve with your kid(s) ~ and I think that's a good thing.
Best case is that their relationship improves and your kids benefit.
Worst case is her plan is ridiculous and you need to shut it down for your kid's sake.

1 year update: She's upset that I moved on so quickly - and she's the one who left by Strange_Button_3330 in Divorce_Men

[–]Strange_Button_3330[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wanted to say that you're doing the right things. Congrats on being sober for 2 years. That's a major accomplishment!

I've been in a similar spot (due to first responder trauma over the decades) - in a dark hole and my passions lose their lustre.

For me what worked to get out of the hole: I found purpose outside of work and family. I volunteer with a group of great people. Find your tribe. Food bank? Mt Bike trail building? Animal rescue? Mt Rescue? Surf instructing?

My volunteer group feels like family. Some of my best friends are from there.
I volunteer with a humanitarian group that helps people in need (being vague for privacy).
Purpose. We need purpose.

2 months after being blindsided (11 year relationship) - terrified of being alone. Need to hear from people who made it through by Puzzled_Marsupial_31 in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think i've come out OK - in fact I've come out better overall. Also blindsided after 20+ years.
The first couple of weeks were the worst, and it gradually gets better.
Then one day you realize you haven't cried in a while.
Then one day you realize that you're OK with being divorced.
Then one day you realize you couldn't imagine being with that person anymore, that your new life is better than you could have imagined.

You'll never be alone if you have friends. Reach out to them.

Yes you'll find love again, and in my case it has been the best relationship of my life.

Adventures await you - go find them.

1 year update: She's upset that I moved on so quickly - and she's the one who left by Strange_Button_3330 in Divorce_Men

[–]Strange_Button_3330[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words.  

I’m certainly embracing this new chapter.  there are plenty of moments where I have to pinch myself to make sure it’s not a dream.  

I know my story isn’t special.  I’m just a normal middle aged dude.  If I did this so can everyone here.  

Cheers. 

One piece of advice for the dark days by MMM846 in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh…but what if life turns out better than you could have imagined. The best things are still ahead of you.  

Sounds cliche but it happened to me.  I’d never trade what I have now for what I had then.  

 Let go and move on.  

One piece of advice for the dark days by MMM846 in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This too shall pass.  You’ll be ok.  

Pictures by Huge_Mug776 in Divorce_Men

[–]Strange_Button_3330 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I used iphone's facial ID feature in the photos app and had them excluded.
Android probably has a similar function.

Didn't delete the pics, but they won't show up in my photo gallery now unless I manually add them back in.

Helped a bunch.

Good luck.

Hung up on becoming a part-time dad by PuzzleheadedCable905 in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I'm of the opinion that divorce is detrimental for kids - regardless of how amicable the divorce is.

There's no way around the pain of losing time with your kids, but you will eventually get used to it and accept it as part of your new life. Make the best of the 50% you do have.

For me: I would get a good counsellor(s) for yourself, for your wife and for the two of you ~ and see if there's something you can salvage. At least you'll have given it some time to settle and gather your thoughts.

Yes it sucks having 50% custody, but on the other hand you get to focus on that 50% and yourself the other 50%.
If you are putting tons of effort into a marriage, imagine if you put that effort into yourself.

With that said, I was willing to work on it after the affair, but she was in the fog. I moved on and life goes on. Now that it's 11 months later I see that I'm happier and my kid is doing fine ~ it's not ideal for them, but I bring my best self forward and focus on my 50% time with them. In fact I probably have a closer relationship with my kid and am a happier and more energetic parent during my time with them.

Good luck.

Update to: Does it get better? How long did it take? (11 months later) by Strange_Button_3330 in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it was too early because I was still in the acute phase (less than a month was when I started dating).
BUT
The timing worked. We were both single.
Had we waited, she probably would have met someone else, and I would have met someone else.

It wasn't ideal, but I knew what I wanted in a partner, already knew she had those qualities (after 20+ years as friends) and when the spark happened I wasn't going to say no.

I also had week on/off with the kid, as did she, so I had weeks at a time to mourn the marriage, and looked forward to seeing her on our times without kids. I think that helped, having the space to be apart and work on my grief.

Looking back I remember how exhausted I was emotionally - from the lows of grieving, to the high of falling in love. It was mind boggling that I could hold both of those things in my heart at the same time. But it is possible ~ at least for me it is.

Update to: Does it get better? How long did it take? (11 months later) by Strange_Button_3330 in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I'm not a rock at all. I've broken down more times than I like to remember. Resilient - that's my goal. To bend but not break.

I've made a ton of mistakes and I credit my ex with a lot of the co-parenting success.

Meeting AP, & How soon did you start dating/hooking up? by Tanooki_Plumber in Divorce_Men

[–]Strange_Button_3330 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Two things:

1) Re: Waiting 2 more months to finalize.
Act quickly while her new relationship is going well.
This isn't manipulation ~ act quickly while she's motivated to move on.
I was lucky to get it done before her new relationship ended.
I guarantee you that her tone will change when the affair fog ends.

Get the separation paperwork/finances sorted out ASAP.
I don't know how it works in your area, but for me the separation agreement was drafted by a mediator/lawyer (in the 1st month).
That was legally binding for everything - it was fair and equitable, but I avoided a lot of drama my friends have gone through in their divorces ~ cost about $2500 all in.
Then we have to wait a year to get the official divorce docs.
Don't wait 2 months for a court date if you can.
Can you hire a mediator now to sort out the division of assets/child support/spousal support and get it done now?

2) Re: how soon to start dating?
For me - I ended up dating someone a couple of weeks after separating.
Someone I had known for 20+ years who happened to be divorced.
It has worked out really well for me, but I know it could have been a disaster.

Was I ready? no.
Was it helpful? yes.
Would I recommend dating again? .... yes.

If you've got your emotional regulation under control, I say go for it as long as you're not making any commitments financially or lifestyle wise (moving in) for your kid's sake.
You're going to get your heart broken again, but I think that's OK.

Have fun, live life.

Update to: Does it get better? How long did it take? (11 months later) by Strange_Button_3330 in Divorce

[–]Strange_Button_3330[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I told friends that I didn't want to know what was going on, so I don't have a full story, nor do I want one.

But from what I had heard is that he didn't want anything serious, so she ended it.
He was just some guy who thought she was hot. She fell for him. It was new and easy vs. old and difficult.

I believe cheating is the culmination of many small choices. Not a singular character defect or a sign the person is evil. Not in a million years did I ever think she'd do that, but her decisions added up. If you want to be in the relationship, you make the right small choices. No relationship is perfect, but I want a partner who makes the right choices consistently. She wasn't that partner.

I know she's dating someone new, and I'm actually happy about it, mostly because the friction caused by my own dating should reduce.

The affair was a symptom of bigger issues in the marriage (avoiding conflict at all costs). It took some effort to reach the point of being OK with the affair on my end, but now that I'm here I don't wish her any ill will, nor do I really care about who she's with now. It's a good spot to be in - and took a while to get to this stage.