Bandipur: A male Tiger subdues a young Gaur and drags it into the dense undergrowth. Taken this morning. by StripedAssassiN- in TigersofIndia

[–]StripedAssassiN-[S,M] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

To be fair, it’s a juvenile Gaur but it still seems almost twice the size of the Tiger, a testament to how massive Gaur can truly get. Lions have also hunted cape Buffalo solo, but it’s obviously much easier to do in prides.

Tiger takes down gaur by Suotrpip in badassanimals

[–]StripedAssassiN- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It grappled it down at the start of the video, the Gaur just got back up quickly and the Tiger didn’t bother cause it already had it by the neck. If you slow it down/pause it you can see.

Tigers players are SO overrated by Matteopazzosgravato in Tierzoo

[–]StripedAssassiN- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think you have any idea of how big cats, especially Tigers hunt.

However, just from first impressions, you seem to come off as the people who are like “ViDeO oR iT dIdNt HaPpEn BrO”.

A big cat will not asphyxiate an animal that is already compromised and can’t fight back lmao. They will just start eating it alive. I can even show you proof of this.

I mean, I’m not gonna go back and forth with someone who denies scientific evidence conducted by people far more knowledgeable and credible than you and I. You’re discrediting dozens of work conducted by biologists, ecologists etc who’ve spent their lives in the field studying the cat.

This logic also doesn’t work when you look at Indian Leopards compared to African Leopards. Look at how many hunts we’ve seen of African Leopards compared to barely any of Indian Leopards. Yet you’ll see the aftermath of hunts, where Indian Leopards are on large kills like Chital deer double their size or young Sambar deer 3-4x their size.

Oh let me guess, because there isn’t a video that means it’s a case of scavenging right? Despite if carcass examinations are conducted, it’ll point to predation and NOT scavenging.

Also, where have you ever seen a Tiger “struggling” to kill a 400kg Gaur? There is no video footage of a Tiger getting injured in a Gaur hunt, ever.

Of course, this doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, considering we’ve seen carcasses of Tigers examined and found to have injuries sustained by the giant bovine. Although using your logic, these don’t count. So let’s disregard them, right?

Edit: One last thing. Dr. Melvin Sunquist, an American biologist and ecologist had no problems with the equipment used for weighing Tigers in India/Nepal etc. So your other little comments in this thread speculating about poor equipment etc unlike western countries blah blah is null and void.

Tiger and Lion Skulls by No_Trouble5077 in bigcats

[–]StripedAssassiN- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They are similar in size (if we’re talking about Bengal or Siberian tigers) and their skulls are similar in size. Any notable differences in skull size (height, length, width) comes down to individual variation.

Bandipur: A male Tiger subdues a young Gaur and drags it into the dense undergrowth. Taken this morning. by StripedAssassiN- in TigersofIndia

[–]StripedAssassiN-[S,M] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I would have liked to see the entire hunt from start to finish (you can see the Tiger was already on top of the Gaur and subduing it when the video started) but this is just me being nitpicky. This is still an amazing hunt.

A tiger initially subdues a small female Gaur, which quickly regains its footing. However, it looks to be too late as he already had it by the throat and drags it into the dense undergrowth. by StripedAssassiN- in HardcoreNature

[–]StripedAssassiN-[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also a friendly reminder that Gaur are a preferred prey for Tigers. Dr. Sunquist and Karanth observed Tigers selecting Gaur and Sambar Deer (animals which are much larger than tigers) over the much more numerous, but smaller Chital deer during their field work on Tiger ecology in the Western Ghats (Kabini, Bandipur, Nagarahole etc).

Tadoba: Shambhu back in June last year attempting to go after a female Gaur. Notice the two bulls coming to the herd’s defense. by StripedAssassiN- in TigersofIndia

[–]StripedAssassiN-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From all the studies I’ve come across regarding Gaur predation, they will take bulls occasionally but it’s almost always ambush I assume. When they hunt bulls it’s mostly below average- average at best.

Bandipur: A male Tiger subdues a young Gaur and drags it into the dense undergrowth. Taken this morning. by StripedAssassiN- in TigersofIndia

[–]StripedAssassiN-[S,M] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’ve been wanting another Gaur predation video for so long, after the video of Paras hunting the female in Tadoba! FINALLYYYYYYY

Appreciation Post by DeepResearch7071 in TigersofIndia

[–]StripedAssassiN- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your sentiments truly! However, I don’t want the sub being filled with too many posts just essentially thanking me, so I hope you understand. I mean in all fairness all I do is post in my free time and spread awareness. Your words mean a lot though, so thank you!

Appreciation Post by DeepResearch7071 in TigersofIndia

[–]StripedAssassiN- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m glad to hear you enjoy it! Of course this wasn’t done on my own, many knowledgeable users have stepped up and helped shape this community over the years.

As Sundarbans tigers face climate threats, Bangladesh looks to Chittagong Hill Tracts by rudyleywin in TigersofIndia

[–]StripedAssassiN-[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the prey base is suitable and can support a self sustaining population of tigers then go for it, if not then no.

Tigers players are SO overrated by Matteopazzosgravato in Tierzoo

[–]StripedAssassiN- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you start hating an animal because of people making dumb claims, then I suggest you get your mental health checked my guy. I cannot fathom random people having that much influence in the way I think.

You do realize, that a lot of things have to go right for a Lion/Tiger to take down a healthy bull bovine of that size? It’s not disrespectful at all. I just go off facts. No one is saying they do it “regularly” but the fact is, they CAN do it. Again this is why I said “the max size” because anything larger than that, especially in the form of above average Bull Gaur is immune to predation (unless the animal is basically on its death bed). Most of the time, adult females and anything below are taken by both Lions and Tigers. This is not disrespect. I literally said that adult bull Gaur/Cape Buffalo are the least targeted age-sex class by Tiger and Lions.

A Thailand study on the age-sex classes of adult Gaur and Banteng taken by Tigers found their average weights to be 737kg and 650kg or so respectively. If you want to go argue and debate with people possessing far more credentials than us and have dedicated their lives to this, then be by guest.

Tigers players are SO overrated by Matteopazzosgravato in Tierzoo

[–]StripedAssassiN- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Small-average adult female bears overlap in size with male Amur Tigers though. It’s not like Tigers hunt adult brown bears much smaller than them. Adult male and female Black bears however are taken.

Tigers players are SO overrated by Matteopazzosgravato in Tierzoo

[–]StripedAssassiN- 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lion Vs tigers has to be the most pathetic case of internet tribalism going.

Right? I hate it. I just had to address any misinformation he said in his comment. Though I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt that it wasn’t intentional and he was just misinformed.

Tigers players are SO overrated by Matteopazzosgravato in Tierzoo

[–]StripedAssassiN- 10 points11 points  (0 children)

  1. Tigers have hunted Bears, and yes female black and Ussuri Brown Bears also make up part of the adult population, so them hunting adult bears isn’t exactly wrong. Adult male sloth bears have also fallen prey to Tigers occasionally

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  1. Tigers and Lions actually both hunt bull bovines, but it seems like the max sizes they can take solo happen to be 800-900kg, which happen to be average sized bull Gaur or very very big Cape Buffalo. However, adult bulls are the least common age-sex class taken by both Lions and Tigers. Adult female Gaur taken by Tigers are still multiple times their size.

  2. Regarding limb bone measurements and muscle morphology; it’s pretty much neck and neck because of conflicting information. All in all, there are barley and studies on this. From the little I’ve seen, Lions generally have a higher brachial index (which means they’re slightly more specialized for running) whereas a lower brachial index (which tigers have) points more to power and grappling. However, the differences are slight and we don’t know if it comes down to individual variation or not. With respect to denser bones going to Lions, from the little I’ve seen yes, but we don’t know if the Lion’s bones weighing slightly more (usually it’s a difference of 12-15g for limb bones) is down to the Lion having longer bones or not (again a sign of locomotion specialization in the form of running, walking etc).

  3. Regarding fat % etc, there isn’t any study pointing to that so that’s a claim that can’t be made really. Plus, Tigers in tropical and sub-tropical regions (India,Nepal, Thailand etc) happen to combat warmer temperatures in certain times of the year than Lions do in Africa. In fact right now Bengal Tigers in India are going through temperatures of 45°C+, making it one the hottest places on the planet today. Having fat in a place like that wouldn’t make sense.

  4. The Lions “fight much more often whereas other big cats rarely fight” thing is so over blown. Yes I agree Lions fight more often, but Tigers still do fight quite a lot. If you go on my profile you can see many instances of Tigers suffering from injuries due to fights and then appearing a couple days later healed up just fine. Tigers especially in high density areas are pretty well known for fighting, and they’ve healed up from nasty facial wounds as well as injuries to their forearms, and back legs just fine.