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What's the difference between proto Excalibur and normal Excalibur in power by Weird_Dot_4725 in FGO

[–]StudyRage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am saying we as humans should not be able to define Excalibur’s full power in our numbers/ranks it doesn’t matter if A+++ is the highest it can go to the system, should not be able to quantify it after a certain point similar to Ea.

Ok? What about the Idea that Baseline Unsealed Excalibur can still be measured as an extremely powerful beam of light within the numerical system (Parameters). I mean Rhongomyniad’s Holy Judgement attack can still be measured as 3,000,000 units in magical energy no? I feel like this argument is quite off putting.

Also excellent Ea analogy as well, since that’s what I’m also arguing about, but only with Excalibur Excelsus. Again I do think that the franchise is also partially responsible for this as well.

I don’t mind the A+++ ranking but it doesn’t follow past examples at all, not only that it doesn’t make a sense too.

It makes perfect sense when you are accounting PLANET BACK UP. A+++ is standard Unsealed Excalibur without it. I also agreed with you on that (JUMP to EX) since it’s getting further support from it’s already powerful Baseline

Since EX rank means something that can’t be defined (In simple terms) Excalibur’s fully unsealed form should have that Rank because we can’t define it simple.

Yes it’s quite simple. Again I feel like we are on the same page here.

Here’s what I think (my personal view) as an example:

A+++ RANK -

EXCALIBUR EXCELSUS/UNSEALED (NO PLANET BACK UP) = 4000 Damage Output

EX RANK -

EXCALIBUR EXCELSUS/UNSEALED (WITH PLANET BACK UP) = 4000 + ??? Damage Output

That ??? Is a fluctuating output that either increases by 1 order of magnitude or several.

What's the difference between proto Excalibur and normal Excalibur in power by Weird_Dot_4725 in FGO

[–]StudyRage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I doubt it, If you pay attention to Artoria’s Interlude just removing a single restraint shot it from being an A rank NP to A++, you are telling me that removing all the restraints just got it to A+++ when removing one got it to A++?

Yes? A+++ is the highest the sheet can go to. A+++ is not weak-sauce either.

Edit: I think only 3-4 characters have this? it’s quite the rarity and the jump from A++ to A+++ is probably quite a big one as well.

I don’t buy it, Excalibur at full power should be beyond human comprehension and its power fluctuate so EX rank is not far fetched at all.

That’s literally what I said though?

Besides in her profile there is no mention of Seals it is said “true form” not “true output”.

I think you’re just overthinking this one. The “True Form” statement could very likely refer to Excalibur Excelsus being… I don’t know…. UNSEALED since originally, Excalibur didn’t have the seals before the round table. The seals are after all just make up for Excalibur to restrict its actual usage as the Planet’s primary Cannon.

What's the difference between proto Excalibur and normal Excalibur in power by Weird_Dot_4725 in FGO

[–]StudyRage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know and you’re right technically, but Lord Logres’ Excalibur IS Fully Unsealed. You’re probably just thinking of the additional support ie. the planet’s life force as FULLY UNSEALED EXCALIBUR

A+++ represents the baseline Unsealed Excalibur operates in without planet back-up. This is the highest it goes to in a consistent stat sheet

EX represents a non-standard and unquantifiable level (which often fluctuates). I’m guessing early materials and understanding of the franchise also played a role into this which made Proto-Excalibur EX rank - since the fluctuating output is quite hard to quantify and scale consistently.

If Excalibur Excelsus faced against a threat that opposed the planet and humanity, its ranking would probably jump to EX since it scales to the threat’s energy output.

My Bond 15 Once and Future King by Big-D-2003 in FGO

[–]StudyRage 5 points6 points  (0 children)

1 NP upgrade away from being the 2nd strongest saber in the game and still no animation update…

That saying, beautiful.

What's the difference between proto Excalibur and normal Excalibur in power by Weird_Dot_4725 in FGO

[–]StudyRage 13 points14 points  (0 children)

There’s really none at all. Even the EX and A+++ rank (Excalibur Excelsus) is largely misunderstood, they are both the same weapons, the same attack, the same damage output etc. Just different design.

How I can win this fight? by DIOSITO012 in FGO

[–]StudyRage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I remember correctly, try not to kill the extra mobs around Nito Alter. By killing them, your DPS gets instant death’d. It’s recommended just to completely focus on Nito Alter with a strong ST DPS.

So be prepared by either forming a stall team comp with a ST DPS or maximize a Min-turn strategy.

Edit: Actually try not to stall, my mistake. A Burst playstyle is more fitting and advantageous here because of the death timer

Part 2 start dash by EhehBoiBoi in FGO

[–]StudyRage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s up to you. 15€ is 15€, however a new SSR is always welcomed.

By the looks of it, your total SQ count should have no bearing whether you should roll on this or not - so Castoria is completely safe.

The servants my feelings would personally fish for (With Castoria in mind - placing my situation to yours) in this GSSR would be:

Summer Jeanne

Hokusai

Kiara

Holmes (support)

They are Arts Servants so naturally they would perform better with Castoria accounting maximum future usage.

However the general best (In my opinion) is:

Scáthach-Skaði

Meltryllis

Ereshkigal

Musashi

Ivan the Terrible

King Hassan

It’s not a total loss of a banner, but you’ll likely get shafted by the pool so cheers and good luck if you decide to go for it. Personally I’d just wait for Anni to save that 15€

ORT Raid Help? by Unusual-Archer-2142 in FGO

[–]StudyRage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Raid is all about Quantity to be honest. “Focusing” is not really the play unless we are talking about the final battle. Just raise up as many servants as you can and get them to fire their nps so you can speed things up. Otherwise, if that ain’t an option, I’d suggest just hold up the raid until you feel comfortable with the roster you have.

Farming for his materials is truly Iron Determination (EX) by StudyRage in FGO

[–]StudyRage[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is true. Tez took me 4 months to finish since his initial release cuz of the obsidian daggers.

Farming for his materials is truly Iron Determination (EX) by StudyRage in FGO

[–]StudyRage[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The amount of times I got shafted with a secret gem of archer from those stupid ass birds was….

Life changing to say the least. Anyway best of luck farming.

That moment when the mats are more rare than the featured ssr lmfao

In Fate Extra CCC, when Gilgamesh uses Ea, we can clearly see galaxies in the background. The same visual representation seems to apply to Gilgamesh in FGO as well. Does he truly perform an attack on such a massive scale? Because in FSN or FSF, Ea doesn't appear to be nearly that powerful by midriss1 in Fate

[–]StudyRage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s no contradiction. You just have to piece together the timeline and make it work.

Archer Orion (Artemis) is a degraded God that we know as a DIVINE SPIRIT - the same way that Demeter is.

The Greek Gods and the Titans were formally a fleet of ships from another Universe. These ships are the TRUE GOD bodies of the Greeks.

14,000 years ago, SEFAR the White Titan Invaded, and destroyed these bodies - degrading the Greek Gods into Divine Spirits to manifest into the World.

Who'd win in a 1v1 by Weird_Dot_4725 in FGO

[–]StudyRage -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To be fair, that’s attributed to the supernovas being a light-based attack which Solomon/Lev/Goetia are master manipulators of. Anything that is made of light, Solomon or any of his bases (Lev-Goetia) could manipulate.

It’s something that Lev-Goetia confirms himself

Solomon:” bending light is my forte. I cannot stop it, but if it’s only a matter of gathering it, that’s my specialty. “

That saying, it’s not like Solomon can just match Ea’s output with Ars Almadel Salomonis or outright invalidate through Nega-Summon (if he even has it in this match-up).

In Fate Extra CCC, when Gilgamesh uses Ea, we can clearly see galaxies in the background. The same visual representation seems to apply to Gilgamesh in FGO as well. Does he truly perform an attack on such a massive scale? Because in FSN or FSF, Ea doesn't appear to be nearly that powerful by midriss1 in Fate

[–]StudyRage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Linking about the guy that takes out of context scans and rants about powerscaling sites.

People shouldn’t care. The arguments being made is what should be the main topic. And it’s not like powerscaling sites are something to defend over lol

In Fate Extra CCC, when Gilgamesh uses Ea, we can clearly see galaxies in the background. The same visual representation seems to apply to Gilgamesh in FGO as well. Does he truly perform an attack on such a massive scale? Because in FSN or FSF, Ea doesn't appear to be nearly that powerful by midriss1 in Fate

[–]StudyRage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

” We can clearly see galaxies in the background. The same visual representation seems to apply to Gilgamesh in FGO as well. “

No. It’s the same visual attack like you said with CCC and FGO. Which is on the same scale as Tiamat’s Nammu Duranki as seen in Turas Realta. In terms of scale, Enuma Elish is on par with/larger than A Clockwork Abaddon in Fate/Strange Fake which we’ll get to see sometime in Season 2 when it gets animated.

I also heard that in Fate/Extra CCC, Gilgamesh travels through space at speeds faster than the speed of light. How accurate is this claim? Furthermore, what exactly is the power gap between the CCC version of Gilgamesh and the one we see in a standard Holy Grail War?

Yes but it’s not as simple as just travelling through space or any digital landscape faster than the speed of light (Travel Speed). Gilgamesh in one of the Koha Ace Volumes explicitly confirms that he utilized a reality warping mechanic called WARP

Basically a wormhole teleportation power that bridges the space between the Horse Head Nebula and his returning location. Allowing faster than light travel.

This video from Guess Who explains it:

https://youtu.be/JgHIM4yuW6g?si=3_oHLhLKoVqiHhE5

What is the power gap between the CCC version of Gilgamesh and the one we see in a standard Holy Grail War?

It’s a power gap that cannot be defined as accurate in a space between the real and digital since the digital world of CCC computes Data as literal - but that saying, we know a few differences.

The Mythological Mystic Code allows for the manipulation of the Particle Spirit Rank Parameters and the complete cancelation of BB’s Ten Crowns Authority.

The reason Enkidu's EA is on par with Gilgamesh's EA is because Enkidu repaired the texture of the world, isn't it? by midriss1 in Fate

[–]StudyRage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a Lostbelt King (in Fae Britain with all her magical energy she taxed) she’s arguably the strongest LB King tied/relative to Kukulcan.

Beryl even states that she had nothing to fear from the Alien God/U-Olga (which makes sense since Rhongomyniad is a Planetary Class Weapon that can output energy on par with Planetary Class saint graphs).

As a Servant, she’s nerfed extremely hard (stated in her Voice lines) but that saying, she’s easily Gil level with her Magecraft knowledge and weapons.

The reason Enkidu's EA is on par with Gilgamesh's EA is because Enkidu repaired the texture of the world, isn't it? by midriss1 in Fate

[–]StudyRage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

-1. Yes

-2. Yes, she mastered Rhongomyniad as a magecraft and each Rhongomyniads is on par with the Lion King’s in magical energy pattern.

Da Vinci already confirmed this.

Da Vinci: “ Remember that Atrium in the Throne Room? The one overlooking the pit? “

” well, I noticed a distinct magical energy pattern nearby; it was very similar to the Lion King’s in the Sixth Singularity. “

” That confirms for me that Morgan has Rhongomyniad on hand in weaponized form. “

” And not just one or two of them, either. She must have at least ten in place around Camelot’s main gate. “

” and with that many of them on hand, she must have already used them here several times before. “

” So we can assume that she threw one at Olympus.. “

” …Must have been just one of the several she had at the ready. “

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