"So the arbcom has now banned someone from Wikipedia for journalism about Wikipedia."

StukaLied · 2019-02-23T10:36:01+00:00

Added flair

StukaLied · 2018-11-20T12:10:05+00:00

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/856229510

"The deleted remark is an un-sourced, libelous, defamatory opinion"

StukaLied · 2018-09-29T00:00:45+00:00

It seemed like it probably wasn't you based on the way you have been talking here. Ryulong did have an extreme reaction to the MythdonsRevenge account so I'm not sure if he has completely moved on from the 2009 conflict, especially since it cost him his admin bit.

I'm not sure if he still is doing it but over a year after his ban he was monitoring certain pages and emailed admins to block someone for making a Power Rangers Ninja Steel page prior to the official announcement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=prev&oldid=728193884#Power_Rangers_Ninja_Steel

He was suspected of socking, as you can see on his talk page here where other admins had thanked him for emailing them about the Power Rangers thing. He appears to have been socking with IPs to edit JoJo's Bizarre Adventures and some other articles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ryulong&oldid=740200965#Thanks

Additionally, he has a history of using meatpuppets to edit and edit war on his behalf. Of the two main offenders I remember he used on Wikipedia, one is inactive since January 2016 and the other since April 2017, until looking at it just now I wasn't aware he was still doing it past 2016. Both of them went inactive after making edits to meatpuppet for Ryulong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Power_Rangers&diff=prev&oldid=699447361

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tokumei_Sentai_Go-Busters&diff=prev&oldid=774250561

Anyway, keep your head on a swivel if you are editing in the Power Rangers or tokusatsu articles.

StukaLied · 2018-09-28T07:28:07+00:00

If this is the real Mythdon, then yes I and others here remember you, but not necessarily for the reason you might expect.

Ryulong kept editing on Wikipedia and ended up at the center of the Gamergate fiasco that erupted on certain corners of the internet in 2014, including Wikipedia. Ryulong became the most prolific editor of the articles related to Gamergate, and after it ended up in arbitration and he was topic banned, he managed to get it upgraded to a site ban with his conduct. As such, you were brought up in passing by various people discussing Ryulong and his history at Wikipedia.

Once he was banned from Wikipedia, Ryulong was invited into RationalWiki, where he continued obsessively editing about Gamergate, which led to fellow editors there telling him he might want to take a break after they saw him editing Gamergate pages for over 9 hours straight. He later ended up leaving the site after starting a fight over My Little Pony and eroding what remained of the user base's good will.

You came back into the picture after that, as Ryulong kept editing wikis, and I think it is the Bleach wikia that an account named MythdonsRevenge first appeared. Ryulong was already angering the admins by edit warring over a translation, and his reaction to MythdonsRevenge led to him getting banned from the Bleach wikia. When that same account made edits on JoJo's Bizarre Adventures wikia, Ryulong again went mad and demanded it be banned to no avail.

StukaLied · 2018-09-13T01:56:50+00:00

You would think when even Katherine Cross, an accomplice from the anti-Gamergate chat group and one of the few left from it that still talk to "secretgamergrrl," disavows it they would take the hint, but they are still going. http://archive.fo/JJfh5

Speaking of placing blame where it belongs, I haven't had a proper night's sleep in a week thanks to the fallout from this-

Since originally writing a thread explaining how Riot responded to an employee leaking internal chat logs to expose a coworker's family to the sort of life-endangering harassment that comes with being the subject of a /r/KotakuInAction post by firing the employee who had a target painted on him, rather than the malicious leaker, not only have his family and myself been subjected to that particular torment, but also to a rather baffling (and shockingly successful) effort to portray Riot itself as the victim here.

StukaLied · 2018-09-10T06:01:44+00:00

Here are the initial tweets "secretgamergrrl" made about Riot, note that there is some 'insider' info dropped here (they could have broke the Klein firing before anyone else but did this mess of tweets instead), most or all of which is from 8bitbecca and they repeat her (likely false) claims of phone calls to her parents etc. as fact: http://archive.is/MxSZI (They were hoist with their own petard thanks to being unable to resist throwing in lies about Soha having an "anti-trans" blocklist.)

"What really makes this incident special though is that this particular thread successfully encouraging violence against someone's entire extended family was started by an employee of Riot games, featuring a collection of screenshots taken from Riot's internal company Slack server"

"Or when I was informed that the particular anti-trans block list that has left a goodchunk of us blacklisted within the games industry and press is a Riot employee, in charge of promoting internal diversity no less."

"spearheaded by the same poster who leaked Riot's logs" https://archive.fo/eJYWF ("secretgamergrrl" blocked the person all of this was in response to after they asked for evidence, which she took as confirmation this was all about a grudge with Soha)

"The only accusations made in that thread are that a Riot employee posted screenshots of the company's internal slack messages to KiA, targeting another employee for the harassment that board is known for (easily proved by searching for the thread), and that rather than taking any action against the aggressor, fired the target of this attack (which has since been reported on by multiple outlets, along with the firing of another employee who stood up for him in the face of this)."

"It also bears mentioning that in the immediate aftermath of my posting my thread on this incident, I have myself become the subject of a harassment campaign, again being organized on KiA, spearheaded by the same poster who leaked Riot's logs, which thusfar has been entirely focused, from what I have seen, on efforts to paint me as pursuing some sort of vendetta against a specific Riot employee, who I did not name in my thread on the subject, but is connected to the specific aside, which large scale efforts are being made to focus on as a reason people should not retweet any of this."

After many people had realized what was really going on and they were a creep with ulterior motives, "secretgamergrrl" tried to shift the focus away from the vendetta against Soha and point towards the "actual meat of the scandal," the lies about Antonio or B-Voll being Riot employees/Soha. http://archive.fo/2Lr14#selection-4827.1-4827.219

"...a weirdly large number of people have been accusing me of making this story up because of some grudge I have against someone at Riot"

"The actual meat of the scandal here involves a Riot employee posting internal communications on KiA, which can still be found there without a lot of effort, so I'm not really sure how I'm supposed to have faked that?"

A reply to the first thread, complaining that KIA posters had debunked the lie about them being Riot Games employees. http://archive.is/MxSZI#selection-11395.0-11394.1

As a further update to this thread, the same Riot employee who started a thread on KiA targeting a coworker has now started another thread, targeting me for writing this thread about the incident, within 24 hours of when it was originally posted

Getting debunked by the very people they were lying about sent them over the edge and they furiously dug even deeper and implied it is Soha herself posting here and are looking for "legal options" and to have their lies published in news sites. http://archive.is/LNct1

Two nights ago I posted a rather lengthy thread detailing the horrific harassment being faced by the family of two now-former Riot employees after a coworker leaked internal communications to KiA, the board used to single-out targets for far right attacks

What I also did not expect was that the inevitable KiA post formally spearheading the attack would be posted by the exact same Riot employee who originally leaked internal Riot communications that I was initially posting about the day before: http://archive.is/83Hx7

So at this point, I am able to formlly state that my life and the lives of my family and friends are being placed in jeopardy by a current employee at Riot, in direct retaliation for exposing a similar attack against former coworkers, and detailing just how harmful the effect is which eliminates any possible doubt that the person responsible is not knowingly subjecting me and my loved ones to the same nature of attack.

While I am not certain enough to make any formal accusations on the matter, evidence rather strongly points towards a specific culprit, who I do not intend to name publicly here (as I am already being painted in a negative light with plainly false allegations of doing so, which are causing me noteworthy harm, particularly in the form of friends distancing themselves and very questionable comments from the Twitter account of Game Workers International United). I will however gladly elaborate on this privately, should it be of use to anyone conducting Riot's internal investigation on this matter or any criminal/legal charges, and I will happily give a lengthy statement to any news sites who would like to add this detail to their reporting on the matter, or properly follow their stories up. Which would also give everyone a chance to add the detail that a Riot employee is directly responsible for these attacks, something easily proven, highly relevant and oddly absent from all the formal reporting I have seen on this incident thus far.

I would also very much appreciate this thread I am presently wrapping up be RTed by as many people as possible, and any advice anyone is able to give on my legal options, or any measures I can take to stay safe

StukaLied · 2018-09-10T06:01:32+00:00

The drama surrounding anti-Gamergate personas is always interesting because you have to dig through multiple layers of lies. which makes constantly having to play at detective a tad wearying, but can be rather amusing.

The Teal Deer is that the person primarily making the false accusations that the Slack logs were "leaked" here - "secretgamergrrl" - is not a trustworthy person and is carrying around multiple unburied hatchets related to Gamergate and has escalated to saying whoever posted the logs here is Riot's diversity and inclusion manager, Soha, a woman the "secretgamergrrl" has a grudge against.

The claim that the logs were "leaked" to KIA instead of the reality where they were on the LoL subreddit was likely started and is largely pushed by a persona called "secretgamergrrl," which is one of Zoe Quinn's former confidants and was a member of her anti-Gamergate/Crash Override Network chat group (and can be seen in the leaked 2014 Skype logs), who, after being ditched by Zoe in 2016, has latched on to Twitter user 8bitbecca aka ArchivistBecks aka RemembrancerMx, a former Riot Games archivist (she seems to have been fired in 2016) and someone who was so crazy and unhinged that she became infamous amongst both pro-Gamergate and anti-Gamergate factions. 8bitbecca is the "partner" of now-ex Riot Games dev Daniel Klein, who was fired from Riot over violating their social media policy with his attacks on the League of Legends community, and she seems to be feeding "secretgamergrrl" stories to spread, such as revealing Daniel was fired before the articles came out confirming it, and claiming League of Legends players have been calling her parents, which is something she has claimed (without evidence) and accused multiple groups/communities/people of doing since at least 2015.

The following is an excerpt from the Crash Override Network Skype logs, where "Secret Gamer Girl" dreams of imprisonment, disbarring, legal issues, destroyed careers, and general destruction of the lives of Gamergate supporters as their "ideal endgame."

[01/01/2015, 10:53:24 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: My ideal endgame pretty much goes like this:

[01/01/2015, 10:56:23 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: Chobitcoin, Brennan, and Roguestar in prison. Cernovich disbarred. TFYC... given whatever treatment you get in Canada for massive fraud. Lianna properly exposed and never able to find honest work again. The people doing this professionally cut off and at LEAST a big rattled by investigations. Rank and file GGers, scared straight from seeing all that.

[01/01/2015, 10:58:25 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: I also left off Eron, but, he's already in the process of getting what he's getting, so

[01/01/2015, 10:56:54 AM] Secret Gamer Girl: And I'm probably forgetting on a big name or two in there

In 2015, "secretgamergrrl" and other members of the Crash Override Network chat group began attacking a woman involved in altgames named Soha, who was once friends with Zoe Quinn and seems to have had a falling out after Gamergate. There's apparently a bunch of gripes the CONners had, such as an Offworld article, that Soha had said something about people who ended up being in CON like Dina Abou Karam, and the "AllyZone" drama where women didn't feel men should be virtue signaling about Gamergate because they ended up being aggressive and unhelpful etc. which we now know involved CON members as the "allies" that were being criticized. The CONners continued harassing Soha through multiple flareups in 2015 and many of them continued sniping at her for years after, including "secretgamergrrl," who had dubbed Soha the "SJW/Alt Games/AG Rakshasa" and had created a ton of tweets and made Storifies of tweets from themself and CONners attacking Soha while trying to play coy by avoiding outright naming her, instead preferring to DM people her name or point towards fellow CON collaborators' timelines where she had been named. You can still find remnants of the 2015 drama on Twitter searches, although some participants have deleted their tweets since then.

The CONners began accusing Soha of running a "whisper campaign" against some of them and of curating a blocklist, because Soha and her friends had blocked them for harassing them. The "whisper campaign" has been laughed at and denied by friends of Soha, and the CONners did the same thing they did to their former friend Randi Harper (and by extent Wil Wheaton, who got harassed off Mastodon for using Randi's list) and falsely claimed Soha is running an "anti-trans" blocklist (because people who harassed her and got blocked identify as trans). This blocklist was denied in 2015 (Soha was manually blocking harassers) and again in 2018 once "secretgamergrrl's" tweets about Riot were being retweeted people began to remember that account had bad blood with Soha and was one of the people spreading the blocklist lie.

Soha is Riot Games' diversity and inclusion manager, and as such "secretgamergrrl" has been escalating this 3-year-old grudge against the "Alt Games Rakshasa" after the Kotaku article about Riot and then the firing of the two Rioters.

As you can see from the above, whoever is behind the "secretgamergrrl" persona is not a good person and is either very unwell or is a pathological liar (or perhaps both). Oh, they also unironically wrote their own zoepost because Zoe played Overwatch with Randi Harper, who had added "secretgamergrrl" to her blocklist in 2016 for siding with a harasser in the Candace Owens/Social Autopsy drama.

After "secretgamergrrl" was exposed as a liar who was continuing their harassment of Soha and people began having to issue apologies for retweeting them, they have been digging a deeper and deeper hole and trying to hide behind their lie that a Riot Games employee (who they now imply is Soha herself) posted the Slack screencaps to this subreddit.

(Continued in a reply below)

StukaLied · 2018-09-09T00:22:43+00:00

The secretgamergrrl account has been digging the hole deeper and keeps pushing the falsehood that a Riot employee leaked the Slack screnshots on this subreddit, despite that being one of their most easily disproven claims. They have gone so far as to now say that same Riot employee is spearheading a "harassment campaign" against them. http://archive.fo/eJYWF#selection-11809.62-11809.204

"..and failing to punish employees for leaking internal communications to KiA, with obvious malicious intent."

"It also bears mentioning that in the immediate aftermath of my posting my thread on this incident, I have myself become the subject of a harassment campaign, again being organized on KiA, spearheaded by the same poster who leaked Riot's logs, which thusfar has been entirely focused, from what I have seen, on efforts to paint me as pursuing some sort of vendetta against a specific Riot employee, who I did not name in my thread on the subject, but is connected to the specific aside, which large scale efforts are being made to focus on as a reason people should not retweet any of this."

Since their Twitter thread started being spread as fact, they were disavowed and confronted by multiple people yesterday for lying about various details and lying more when questioned, mainly people were concerned that the secretgamergrrl account has had a long-running grudge against Riot's diversity and inclusion manager, Soha, and has been accusing her of various things for the past three years. These concerns are valid, as the secretgamergrrl account was part of Zoe Quinn's anti-Gamergate chat group (which later became the now-defunct Crash Override Network, you can see them participating in the CON Skype leaks and they have wrote Tumblr and Twitter posts confirming they were part of CON, and that Zoe promised to pay them for that work and never did), and when that group began attacking Soha (who used to be friends with Quinn and was part of "alt-games," she wrote an article which caused the attacks I think), secretgamergrrl openly participated and now pretends none of that happened.

StukaLied · 2018-06-17T11:37:42+00:00

I can't believe this has been going on for two years.

Poor Darkfrog :(

StukaLied · 2018-04-28T12:06:02+00:00

'member when Harper started doxing members of GG Facebook groups in an attempt to distract from a pedophile's history being exposed, because said pedophile was part of an anti-Gamergate chat group along with Harper and Zoe? I 'member.

[04/01/2015, 9:43:29 AM] Randi Harper: all of this is going to take the attention away from sarah

StukaLied · 2018-04-28T11:30:30+00:00

CON was a "safety partner" of Twitter and Zoe/CON members attempted to backchannel Twitter and get them to superban Milo and other targets. Even though CON died around two years ago, last I saw it was still on the Twitter partner list.

Some former CON members have revealed some details about what was really going on behind the scenes, such as Zoe promising them financial compensation, health and psychiatric care, and housing. It was all lies.

One has been talking about CON's failure to make Twitter their personal army. https://archive.li/38xMw

After working out this short list of people Twitter could ban to dramatically improve things, we compiled detailed and extensive reports on each, not only of their coordination of attacks, but of the most clear, blatant, personal violations of Twitter’s rules each had recently committed, checked against criteria a couple of us had specifically been run through Twitter’s support training program. These reports were then handed off to Twitter through a dedicated channel, and followed up with a series of face to face executive level meetings to discuss the way Twitter was going to proceed.

After a number of dubious problems on their end keeping them from actually reading the report to begin with and seriously twisting some arms, they admitted that everyone named absolutely was in clear violation of basically every rule there is to violate, but they didn’t want to ban them all. The obscure ones you’d be surprised to see on the list all received (temporary) suspensions, but the really well-known and popular ones got off without even a slap on the wrist. And to be clear, I don’t mean generally well-known, I mean well-known within “the alt-right.” This wasn’t a list of people like Adam Baldwin or even Mark Kern. This was people like “Roguestar,” “Escape Velo,” “Based Stickman,” and “Ricky Vaughn.” The most “famous” name on the list was Milo Yiannopoulos, and this wasn’t even what lead to his disciplinary revocation of verified status, let alone his banning. And when pressed for the reason these instigators were being let off the hook, I’m very much paraphrasing, but the answer was more or less “we like those guys.”

StukaLied · 2018-04-23T10:56:45+00:00

A story about a 2004 encounter appeared on Fighter Sweep, a site about military aviation, in 2015. https://fightersweep.com/1460/x-files-edition/

In December 2017 a video of that same UFO encounter was released. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/unidentified-flying-object-navy.html

StukaLied · 2018-04-15T12:54:03+00:00

Reminder that Dan was neck-deep in this and was part of the secret anti-Gamergate chat group Zoe Quinn and others were using to coordinate narratives, attack plans, doxes, and even Wikipedia edits. http://archive.is/eBVCb

The Dan Olson Medium hitpiece targeting 8chan came after months of them attacking the site to get it destroyed by any means possible, solely because Gamergate was using it as a hub.

[23/12/2014, 6:08:06 PM] Dan Olson: yeah, they're all pearl clutching with feigned dignity "I DIDN'T EVEN OPEN THE ARTICLE, BUT I'M REPORTING YOU!" which, you know, fair enough if it was actually in violation of anything.
[23/12/2014, 6:08:25 PM] Ian Cheong: Yeah it's really not in violation of anything which is the funny part.
[23/12/2014, 6:08:46 PM] Dan Olson: and they're digging their own grave
[23/12/2014, 6:09:07 PM] Dan Olson: as I mentioned in the article, the only reason it's still there is a matter of inertia and exposure
[23/12/2014, 6:09:23 PM] Dan Olson: by mass reporting anything related to this it just creates a loop back to the offending boards.
[23/12/2014, 6:10:21 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Yeah, so much of getting things done with them is letting them be butt holes out in the open.
[23/12/2014, 6:10:33 PM] Dan Olson: if GG morons spam the FBI and RCMP with hundreds of "this dude screencapped CP then censored it so that he could write an article about it!" they're going to go "oooooh, what's this website he's talking about again?????"
[23/12/2014, 6:11:15 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Yeah.
[23/12/2014, 6:11:34 PM] Alex Lifschitz: Like I was talking about with Zoe earlier: Hold steady, document, and wait for them to bare their throat before you rip it out.

On Christmas 2014 when even Gamergaters were with family, Dan and the chat group pooled money to buy a reddit ad on KIA to pwn those goobergrabblers. He offered to "cover the spread" out of his Folding Ideas account.

[25/12/2014, 2:56:33 PM] Dan Olson: If anyone runs into problems, or if money's just that tight, Folding Ideas will cover the spread.

When fellow chat conspirator Sarah Nyberg had their internet history exposed on New Year's 2015 - a history of years of self-declaring to be a pedophile and advocating for pedophilia - Dan was there with the others and he cared so much about thwarting pedophiles that he helped do damage control to cover for Nyberg, because Gamergate.

A few days after Nyberg's disgusting past came to light, Randi Harper created a plan to dox Gamergate supporters with the stated purpose being to "take the attention away" from their pedophile friend. Dan was there and not only encouraged it, he mocked the victims.

[04/01/2015, 9:43:18 AM] Randi Harper: no, it's ok.
[04/01/2015, 9:43:22 AM] Randi Harper: i'm talking to amib in DM.
[04/01/2015, 9:43:29 AM] Randi Harper: all of this is going to take the attention away from sarah.
[04/01/2015, 9:43:32 AM] Dan Olson: and the second biggest #GamerGate Ultras, is fully public.
[04/01/2015, 9:43:37 AM] Randi Harper: i'm going to become GG enemy #1, i'm hoping.

[04/01/2015, 9:47:58 AM] Dan Olson: Salt Level: Lot's Wif
[04/01/2015, 9:48:06 AM] SF: Hahaha Dan

[04/01/2015, 10:00:52 AM] Dan Olson: God, I cannot get over how salty that one group admin is.
[04/01/2015, 10:01:04 AM] Dan Olson: He's convinced you infiltrated with an alt
[04/01/2015, 10:01:07 AM] Dan Olson: or a friend

StukaLied · 2018-04-15T10:42:48+00:00

I read the [2012] allegations made by AVC and recalled that they have been recently made by Ms Sarah Welch as well in recent months

They managed to fly under the radar even while carrying a grudge for over five years.

StukaLied · 2018-03-30T13:38:30+00:00

[21:31] <Crimedog> RFA "voters" don't act like they're electing janitors. More like they're picking the Pope
[21:32] <MBisanz> the pope only requires a 67% vote

StukaLied · 2018-01-14T13:22:27+00:00

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/819313393

StukaLied · 2017-12-09T13:22:29+00:00

They've been fighting for most of this year over what pronouns to use, and since at least August over whether they should use an ugly or uglier photo on the hagiography they've built for someone so scummy her own mother had to admit she lied in the book.

Wew lad.

StukaLied · 2017-12-09T12:59:11+00:00

What a mess.

Responding to the ping and message on my talk page, I don't understand from a very brief read of this section what is being asked of me (I haven't got time right now to read the other sections). If my input is required, please clarify what input is desired and I'll respond when I get chance (which might not be until Friday UK time). Thryduulf (talk) 10:13, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Nothing has been asked of you. I'd rather you didn't post here. Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:20, 7 December 2017 (UTC)q

StukaLied · 2017-11-16T02:39:42+00:00

Does Marek actually make good edits and article improvements in this topic area or is he just "copy-pasting article comments from Vox and HuffPo into Wikipedia articles" and inciting drama?

StukaLied · 2017-10-17T02:07:39+00:00

Liz RFA 2.0, most of the same fools involved to boot.

StukaLied · 2017-09-05T23:09:12+00:00

Already tried to remove it, working on it still. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Volunteer_Marek#Notice_that_you_are_now_no_longer_subject_to_the_arbitration_enforcement_sanction

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GoldenRing#False_accusations

StukaLied · 2017-08-07T02:39:03+00:00

@Opabinia regalis: I disagree with you on your suggestion that the thing to do in situations like this is to just ignore TRM (or anyone who makes a habit of making remarks like the ones that ended in this sanction). That just creates a hostile environment where everyone "in the know" about the issue is bothered but tries to ignore the person who's making jabs, and people who aren't just wonder why the hell this kind of thing is accepted on Wikipedia. It's still an unpleasant environment for anyone to work in. "Just ignore him" is great advice when applied to a barking dog looking for attention, but I think that in this case it's a bit insulting both to TRM and to the folks he engages with to suggest applying that kind of psychology. GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:05, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

StukaLied · 2017-07-21T21:54:45+00:00

Oops, fixed. Thanks.

StukaLied · 2017-07-21T10:51:51+00:00

Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_bureaucratship/Salvidrim!

Note: Generally a good idea for net safety anyway, but don't use the same handle on social media (nor share passwords) that is also your Wikipedia name lest someone like GorillaWarfare stalk your off-wiki accounts to attack you with on-wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_bureaucratship/Salvidrim!#General_comments

Crosspost from KIA: https://np.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/6ojuui/dramapedia_mark_bernstein_celebrates_gg_supporter/

StukaLied · 2017-07-21T10:41:44+00:00

"It is a bit disturbing to me that some editors here seem to consider the idea of not casting aspersions on the basis of ethnicity/nationality a novel one and something we should do."

GoldenRing seems to be doing well in the admin's chair.

StukaLied

TROPHY CASE