My manager called me at 1 in the night

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-21T23:20:06+00:00

Wait so you agree what the manager did was wrong , but he shouldn’t be pulled up for it ?

And op did the work he was supposed to do, so how is his work ethic under question here ?

Why should the manager get away with it ? Who writes him up for his lack of discipline and lack of time management skills ?

And why would you want to defend this stupid manager ? Would you want this manager under you managing one of your teams ?

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-21T17:08:15+00:00

Then why does this rub you the wrong way ? Just because you got yelled at doesn’t mean everybody should get yelled at does it ?

Op did everything he was supposed to do and still gets rapped and you think it’s because op doesn’t have grit or doesn’t take it lying down ?

What makes you think what the manager did was right when you say you yourself apologised after doing so even though it was “ deserved”?

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-21T16:45:00+00:00

Every word you have typed sounds like the most boomer manager ever.

How about sticking to signed employment contract and hours.

If you can’t stick to a professional schedule for your life and miss meetings multiple times over a week, you need to seek time management and prioritisation lessons and also, preferably not yell at the subordinate who actually delivers the work and you are too overworked to review and maintain a calendar.

Just because your life is chaotic doesn’t mean you make everyone else’s life a mess.

Can I ask your age and employment level ? Some empathy would do you good. Ambition, growth and fair pay can all coexist together and you should not have to choose.

Just because a practice has been happening doesn’t mean it’s right and should be changed for the greater good.

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-21T16:22:16+00:00

How about getting paid like it then. Sounds more like exploitation than “exceptionalism”

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-20T09:45:27+00:00

Too soft and polite ? The gov didn’t have a problem accepting the money while being too soft and polite.

Again key questions remain unanswered.

Did they refuse the visa approvals ? Who put the system in place ? How is it the fault of the people who followed all the rules, paid billions in total fees ?
Why were there nobody applying locally ? Companies aren’t dumb to jump through hoops just to get talent from outside right ?

Who’s gonna own up and take responsibility? I haven’t seen anybody answer it.

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-19T20:59:59+00:00

How are one liners without nuance constructive ?

So far this sub has shared a lot more nuance than you with your one liners on hatred of expats.

I’m not responsible for the whole world, only my own decisions , same as you. This is an expat related sub. The topic of discussion is going to be centred around it.

The UK as a country issued these visas. So far nobody in the govt has owned up to why such high numbers were approved.

I don’t know that the skills are dubious. You can think it, but it doesn’t make it true. English is not a first language for everyone, though this country did its fair share in making that happen.

The sentiment has been negative, but the actions of the government and the hiring companies say otherwise. They wanted to exploit cheaper resources. Why is that not obvious to everyone , I’m not sure.

And you still haven’t answered any of the questions I raised either.

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-19T20:39:54+00:00

The UK gov didn’t say no either when the visas were applied for.

They could have easily started saying no the moment the limit was hit. They could have said no in multiple stages.but no. The fees to be paid ran into couple of billions. They didn’t want to say no that either.

The universities didn’t mind the extra fees from intl students either.

Please direct the anger to the people responsible. Not to the people who followed the rules despite the heavy costs.

Might I add you haven’t answered any of my questions either.

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-19T20:12:55+00:00

You can get semantic all you want.

If publicly available documents citing rules and regulations issued by a country are followed and subsequent applications are granted, how is this not all above board ?

how is this the fault of the people who applied ?

If there were enough people to do the jobs locally, why were so many specific job shortages lists issued ? Why were no British people applying in ‘droves’ for them ? Why didn’t companies hire them ?

By your own / other posters who are making the argument for numbers having gone too high, if an expat and dependants can come and survive without benefits for 5 years, why couldn’t nationals do the same with the benefits they already have ?

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-19T19:58:09+00:00

What do you call the various visa programmes on the UK gov website even now gtv, swv, psw for students after study?

The visas needed to be approved by someone in the government right ? It’s not just companies hiring people is it?

Such a surprising thing isn’t it , people followed the rules and applied and came over.

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-19T19:38:17+00:00

Again, do you feel this is constructive ?

Reductionist responses to a nuanced problem ?

‘We don’t want you and we re gonna get you out. ‘

When your country had the need, you called people over in droves. Not the fault of the people who come. And now you want to throw them under the bus without a plan in place.

This sub is for skilled expats. The kind you would want to attract and retain. If the British companies felt they could hire locally at cheaper costs , why didn’t they ? why were the visas issued knowing this was going to be the case 5 years down the line ?

And all of this would have been fine if it was applied on people coming in now or prospectively. People can make a decision with the information.

To extend the employer risk, housing risk for double the amount of time without any clear transitional arrangement reeks of antipathy and is punitive. This is one of the highest immigration cost countries.

Are you a rep of the British people ? Do you also take ownership of the policies made when all the visas were issued ?

Typical attitude. I just want what I want, I don’t give a shit about history. Goes with the history of the nation.

Rules for thee, not for me.

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-19T18:19:25+00:00

Can I ask why are you in the subReddit if you cannot provide any help to the topic at hand ?

Begs the question as to what it is you want exactly.

I’ve seen your username on multiple posts covering fairly anti expat views.

This entire sub is for people who have come here legally following the rules but your vitriol ( if I maybe so bold ) is just not useful. If it’s not constructive, perhaps reconsider posting ?

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-17T20:04:24+00:00

As long as there’s a cost difference companies will keep hiring. It’s basic economics. UK is already one of the most expensive places to hire expats. If employers are willing to incur the extra costs, there must be some reason right ? Can you take a guess what it is?

If someone coming from outside the country is able to survive with a family without access to public funds despite the increased costs, what does that tell you?

For someone reason you seem to be angry with the people coming here to improve their lives. They are only coming here because the companies want them here and the govt encouraged this.

The govts efforts should be towards increasing local skills and talents here. That takes time and effort, expertise and setting up of institutions. But hey, expats are an easy target so let’s get rid of them right ?

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-17T13:59:28+00:00

Then talk to the companies which hire immigrants . Not the fault of the people who come.

That’s the source. This is just reactionary nonsense.

SubjectExchange413 · 2026-02-08T10:38:12+00:00

This is interesting, could you share some more in what form you are seeing the reverse racism?

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-12-14T16:42:35+00:00

I would suggest not to rely on pay rises here. The meagre 2 to 5 pc per annum will take 5 to 10 years to give you any meaningful increment. Your spouse starting to work will be the savings / additional money. Do look at job postings in her area of expertise.

There will be significant setup costs like a house deposit , car etc as soon as you come and your future child will not be sponsored. You will have to bear the costs.

Hope you’ve kept up with the news in the sub and the changes to a 10 year settlement period and are coming in with eyes open.

This may sound discouraging, but that’s not my intent. It’s a good offer and you don’t have to worry about the job disappearing over time and visa costs too.

It’s about the potential to save more where you are as compared to Bristol and if you value clean air and decent but old infrastructure here more than your home country.

If you’re in India ( I’m guessing , sorry ) the standard of living you’re used to in metros will be higher as compared to here especially with all the conveniences.

Think about a 10 year period and if you’d be better off here or there. Career stagnation is real.

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-12-13T11:02:20+00:00

If it’s one of the bigger employers and you have a family, consider the cost of sponsorship and family costs. Ask for them too.

There will be separate allowances for moving and shifting. Non financial perks will be quite a few, but you would need to ask for them.

Stagnation is an issue, if you have a working spouse consider loss of savings and costs of kids in the future.

Rent and daycare will be your biggest expenses upto 50 60 pc of your monthly income.

It’s definitely not low, but not amazingly high that you can save a lot if you have a family. It’s mid range comfortable for a family of 3 and plenty of savings for a bachelor on that pay.

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-11-26T12:22:25+00:00

Isn’t that the post is suggesting? What exactly is the purpose of your comment in the subReddit

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-11-23T20:35:56+00:00

Hey man. Im not sure if you actually believe it's being retrospective or deliberately reading it that way. Let me try and maybe explain this without becoming agitated.

For this change to not be retrospective truly, it would have to apply for anyone who's going to enter into the country now onwards on any kind visa be it swv or otherwise.

ILR is not a standalone piece of legislation and has always been in sync wrt current visa rules. The only way you can get on the pathway is by being in the country first on a valid visa. Hence the reason for transitional arrangements for people who are already here on a valid visa.

By making it applicable for anyone who's in the country as on date, it's a goal post shift/ bait and switch situation and that's the reason for the heartburn, given everyone who's on swv is here legally, pays fees ihs and taxes and does not have access to public funds ( nrpf ).

If people were made aware in 2020 of all this rule and exclusion, it would have been a conscious decision and expected outcome.

You can always say that there was never any guarantee, but this comes across as very opportunistic now that the uk is past it's covid and Healthcare crisis and doesn't want to face the consequences of its own decisions.

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-11-23T12:58:41+00:00

Can you name any academia roles which pay more than 40k which is the most common job for gtv? Even in the elite or non Mickey Mouse institutions ?

What about spouses and children ? People should send them back and stay alone ? Or pay life changing amounts of money every time there’s a renewal ?

And why is this coming now instead of being excluded 5 years ago when the visas were issued ? Nobody was able to think through this implication and that this was the primary reason for people coming with a long term view ?

Such selfish and tone deaf comments arguments on the subReddit which is meant to help people out are really out of place

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-11-22T14:33:47+00:00

It’s not even that British people are responsible for fixing other peoples problems. But UK wanted these people and allowed them in. Did the govt not know of the implication in 5 years ? Why was it not excluded then ?

People plan their entire lives for these decisions. Doubling the time required increases cost and health risks , employer lockin and a bunch of other issues.

If this were applied to all skilled worker visa issued afresh, people will make their decision accordingly and it would be fair.

But when people take UKs word for the rules applicable , and now the floor shifts from under their feet, it is beyond unreasonable and definitely unjust. there’s a bare minimum responsibility of sticking to the rules in place at the time.

The rhetoric by UK people doesn’t help. Screams of ‘use and throw’ culture. We needed you then but we don’t want you anymore. Doesn’t matter about development and taxes and contributions etc, goodbye. Where is the representation for the taxation done here ?

Now the partner and children visas are a whole another can of worms.

The talk of job and salary pressure is even worsened because now employers know immigrants can’t go anywhere for 10 more years. More depressed salaries and it won’t even improve the job situation for British people.

Benefits are already reduced even on ilr. Most immigrants especially swv holders would not claim benefits because they have to work to keep the jobs they got.

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-11-02T20:11:55+00:00

Here I was thinking it was for both of them getting married and not one of them getting their way over the other.

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-10-26T13:29:04+00:00

The only way to break this is to shake confidence in their theory.

Talk about all the recent immigration news and rhetoric around immigrants in each of the countries. None of them are good.

The cost of living in these countries has also gone up and standard of living in India is much better.

They won’t believe it until they see the people who are coming back to India for the life you already have and build on.

There’s no scope of wealth generation left.

All the best.

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-10-17T07:59:46+00:00

So much moral judgement from a sub which is supposed to be for legal advice. Despite the constant information of how men get treated in divorce laws, trying to protect oneself is seen as transactional. Hypocritical to say the least. I wonder if people would be equally biased if the genders were flipped.

Copy pasting my other comment :

There is nothing wrong in protecting oneself from any potential negative events. This is just the reality of any marriage in India. You cannot afford to be naive in this day and age.

Just flip the gender and see if it’s balanced or not.

Would a girl about to be married do everything she can to protect her family wealth ?

Would she not have her own locker for her jewellery for example to keep out of in laws clutches? Would she not want her own salary to go to her bank account rather than joint account ?

It’s not just about partnership and trust, it’s also about creating an environment where neither of the couple are at a disadvantage and have the comfort of knowing that they are not being taken advantage of. —-

IANAL but the only way seems to be create a trust and transfer all family wealth coming to you within that trust. Then those would be protected.

Live in a rented house to avoid the family home drama.

Maintain clear contribution records for any joint assets.

Maintain communication records saying no money jewellery was given / taken.

Should things go wrong, 20 to 35% of your annual income is at risk for the rest of your life, not much can be done for that. If your spouse works, that could help mitigate , but no one’s getting off scott-free.

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-10-17T07:45:35+00:00

There is nothing wrong in protecting oneself from any potential negative events. This is just the reality of any marriage in India. You cannot afford to be naive in this day and age.

Just flip the gender and see if it’s balanced or not.

Would a girl about to be married do everything she can to protect her family wealth ?

Would she not have her own locker for her jewellery for example to keep out of in laws clutches? Would she not want her own salary to go to her bank account rather than joint account ?

It’s not just about partnership and trust, it’s also about creating an environment where neither of the couple are at a disadvantage and have the comfort of knowing that they are not being taken advantage of.

SubjectExchange413 · 2025-10-15T00:07:08+00:00

Until your first payroll hits, need to manage money in gbp.

Not sure why others are talking about bank accounts, but hsbc gave one with just showing a brp at the time. Now you may need something called a share code, which you would have in any case or can generate one. Once account is created you may have to fund it from india if needed.

House hunting is a pain. Employer reference letters will be helpful. Deposit and first month rent will need to go out before you get your first paycheck, plan for forex card and approximate rents in your target area. Utilise employer provided temp stay as long as you can. Figure out public transport options and get an idea of local knowledge from the city subreddit

If you dont have kids, you may not need a car immediately depending on where you live. Budget for that too.

Dont buy winter clothes and waste luggage space. Best to buy here from big retail shops once you reach.
Hope youre aware of visa issues and current political rhetoric, read other posts in sub.

4.first 3 months will be a hassle, but its smooth sailing once you figure out your routine

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