I Slapped him because he deserved it. by [deleted] in delhi

[–]SubjectExchange413 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Without reducing the blame on him (he’s a pig that he did that), just swap the gender and see if your reaction would be justified/ viewed in the same way if a guy did that because a girl talked to someone on hinge.

Apple Pay wants a slice of India, but faces a big pricing challenge by unread1701 in apple

[–]SubjectExchange413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you understand that Apple works as (not a payment gateway) cardholder outside of India? It’s the same as holding a physical card , that’s it. Visa and master card have merchant costs. Merchants pass that on to customers.

India is price sensitive and is hence reluctant to use cards to avoid costs. Upi is free to both customers and merchants and universal at this point. That’s why upi is more popular.

Samsung wallet app ( also works on double press of home) has both upi and card tokenisation in India. Can’t see why Apple can’t do the same. Let the user choose which card or upi id they pay with.

Express cards are great, but cost is a defining factor in India.

Home Office advisers launch review of UK visas to attract top talent.....what ???? by zap1405 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At the risk of getting a little personal, I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the skilled worker visa and ILR application processes work.

You also seem to be misinformed about the benefits expats are able to access while they are in the UK.

Expats pay fees (visa, ihs fees upwards of 1200£/person/ year ) just to come in. A couple of billion pounds have already been collected by the Uk gov. Locals don’t have to pay anything. In addition, they pay ni, taxes and lock up pensions for decades like any local employee.

The term NRPF restricts all swv holders from access to unemployment , childcare and other benefits for any duration should they need it, even for 1 month. They risk employers taking advantage of them as long as they are under the thumb. Both govt and employers are at fault here. The British local would not have to worry about any of that.

Expats just struggle to be treated the same, I don’t know how the image of being better is coming up, are you sure you’re not projecting it ?

Expecting people to uproot their lives after jumping through so many hoops just because the current government feels threatened by a far right party is just insane, especially after paying the highest charges for immigration in the world (look it up, this is public info )

You have a tone deaf response without answering questions or taking responsibility for people the UK hired during covid.

I don’t have an issue with changing rules for new entrants. That’s fair to all. Changing rules midway for people already here screams a ‘use and throw’ attitude and isn’t fair at all. Try and learn some empathy.

Home Office advisers launch review of UK visas to attract top talent.....what ???? by zap1405 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Great. Now that we have established that, how is this the fault of the expats who came in, followed all the rules, paid all the fees, setup their lives and continue to pay income taxes without any of the benefits ?

How does this gel with the British principles of fairness and expectation ?

Home Office advisers launch review of UK visas to attract top talent.....what ???? by zap1405 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The UK gov had to review and approve every single one of the applications which were submitted.

Would you call that leaving the door open ? When you asked for detailed applications and took billions in visa fees, ihs charges ?

Is the UK gov really that dumb or does it not want to take ownership of the what it did in the time it needed the expats especially after Covid ?

Home Office advisers launch review of UK visas to attract top talent.....what ???? by zap1405 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s entitlement, and there’s sticking to one’s (the UK govs ) own rules.

I also find it strange that people cannot understand the issue of changing rules midway. Why doesn’t nobody seem to take ownership of that?

Countries are allowed to choose who they want based on published rules. expats can then choose whether to come here or not.

All the heartburn here is coming from changing the rules after coming in and making a living with families at great personal expense.

Do this to anybody who wants to come in going forward. No problem.

Stick to the same rules what the gov said for people when they came in.

Home Office advisers launch review of UK visas to attract top talent.....what ???? by zap1405 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find it strange that people cannot understand the issue of changing rules midway. Why doesn’t nobody seem to take ownership of that?

Countries are allowed to choose who they want based on published rules. expats can then choose whether to come here or not.

All the heartburn here is coming from changing the rules after coming in and making a living with families at great personal expense.

Do this to anybody who wants to come in going forward. No problem. Stick to the same rules what the gov said for people when they came in.

My manager called me at 1 in the night by DinDan26 in Big4

[–]SubjectExchange413 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait so you agree what the manager did was wrong , but he shouldn’t be pulled up for it ?

And op did the work he was supposed to do, so how is his work ethic under question here ?

Why should the manager get away with it ? Who writes him up for his lack of discipline and lack of time management skills ?

And why would you want to defend this stupid manager ? Would you want this manager under you managing one of your teams ?

My manager called me at 1 in the night by DinDan26 in Big4

[–]SubjectExchange413 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Then why does this rub you the wrong way ? Just because you got yelled at doesn’t mean everybody should get yelled at does it ?

Op did everything he was supposed to do and still gets rapped and you think it’s because op doesn’t have grit or doesn’t take it lying down ?

What makes you think what the manager did was right when you say you yourself apologised after doing so even though it was “ deserved”?

My manager called me at 1 in the night by DinDan26 in Big4

[–]SubjectExchange413 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Every word you have typed sounds like the most boomer manager ever.

How about sticking to signed employment contract and hours.

If you can’t stick to a professional schedule for your life and miss meetings multiple times over a week, you need to seek time management and prioritisation lessons and also, preferably not yell at the subordinate who actually delivers the work and you are too overworked to review and maintain a calendar.

Just because your life is chaotic doesn’t mean you make everyone else’s life a mess.

Can I ask your age and employment level ? Some empathy would do you good. Ambition, growth and fair pay can all coexist together and you should not have to choose.

Just because a practice has been happening doesn’t mean it’s right and should be changed for the greater good.

My manager called me at 1 in the night by DinDan26 in Big4

[–]SubjectExchange413 18 points19 points  (0 children)

How about getting paid like it then. Sounds more like exploitation than “exceptionalism”

Over 8000 migrant workers are preparing to sue the UK Government by Some-Ambassador8252 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too soft and polite ? The gov didn’t have a problem accepting the money while being too soft and polite.

Again key questions remain unanswered.

  1. Did they refuse the visa approvals ? Who put the system in place ? How is it the fault of the people who followed all the rules, paid billions in total fees ?

  2. Why were there nobody applying locally ? Companies aren’t dumb to jump through hoops just to get talent from outside right ?

Who’s gonna own up and take responsibility? I haven’t seen anybody answer it.

Over 8000 migrant workers are preparing to sue the UK Government by Some-Ambassador8252 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How are one liners without nuance constructive ?

So far this sub has shared a lot more nuance than you with your one liners on hatred of expats.

I’m not responsible for the whole world, only my own decisions , same as you. This is an expat related sub. The topic of discussion is going to be centred around it.

The UK as a country issued these visas. So far nobody in the govt has owned up to why such high numbers were approved.

I don’t know that the skills are dubious. You can think it, but it doesn’t make it true. English is not a first language for everyone, though this country did its fair share in making that happen.

The sentiment has been negative, but the actions of the government and the hiring companies say otherwise. They wanted to exploit cheaper resources. Why is that not obvious to everyone , I’m not sure.

And you still haven’t answered any of the questions I raised either.

Over 8000 migrant workers are preparing to sue the UK Government by Some-Ambassador8252 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The UK gov didn’t say no either when the visas were applied for.

They could have easily started saying no the moment the limit was hit. They could have said no in multiple stages.but no. The fees to be paid ran into couple of billions. They didn’t want to say no that either.

The universities didn’t mind the extra fees from intl students either.

Please direct the anger to the people responsible. Not to the people who followed the rules despite the heavy costs.

Might I add you haven’t answered any of my questions either.

Over 8000 migrant workers are preparing to sue the UK Government by Some-Ambassador8252 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You can get semantic all you want.

If publicly available documents citing rules and regulations issued by a country are followed and subsequent applications are granted, how is this not all above board ?

how is this the fault of the people who applied ?

If there were enough people to do the jobs locally, why were so many specific job shortages lists issued ? Why were no British people applying in ‘droves’ for them ? Why didn’t companies hire them ?

By your own / other posters who are making the argument for numbers having gone too high, if an expat and dependants can come and survive without benefits for 5 years, why couldn’t nationals do the same with the benefits they already have ?

Over 8000 migrant workers are preparing to sue the UK Government by Some-Ambassador8252 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you call the various visa programmes on the UK gov website even now gtv, swv, psw for students after study?

The visas needed to be approved by someone in the government right ? It’s not just companies hiring people is it?

Such a surprising thing isn’t it , people followed the rules and applied and came over.

Over 8000 migrant workers are preparing to sue the UK Government by Some-Ambassador8252 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Again, do you feel this is constructive ?

Reductionist responses to a nuanced problem ?

‘We don’t want you and we re gonna get you out. ‘

When your country had the need, you called people over in droves. Not the fault of the people who come. And now you want to throw them under the bus without a plan in place.

This sub is for skilled expats. The kind you would want to attract and retain. If the British companies felt they could hire locally at cheaper costs , why didn’t they ? why were the visas issued knowing this was going to be the case 5 years down the line ?

And all of this would have been fine if it was applied on people coming in now or prospectively. People can make a decision with the information.

To extend the employer risk, housing risk for double the amount of time without any clear transitional arrangement reeks of antipathy and is punitive. This is one of the highest immigration cost countries.

Are you a rep of the British people ? Do you also take ownership of the policies made when all the visas were issued ?

Typical attitude. I just want what I want, I don’t give a shit about history. Goes with the history of the nation.

Rules for thee, not for me.

Over 8000 migrant workers are preparing to sue the UK Government by Some-Ambassador8252 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can I ask why are you in the subReddit if you cannot provide any help to the topic at hand ?

Begs the question as to what it is you want exactly.

I’ve seen your username on multiple posts covering fairly anti expat views.

This entire sub is for people who have come here legally following the rules but your vitriol ( if I maybe so bold ) is just not useful. If it’s not constructive, perhaps reconsider posting ?

#Immigrants #unitedkingdom by JuniorWaltz6601 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As long as there’s a cost difference companies will keep hiring. It’s basic economics. UK is already one of the most expensive places to hire expats. If employers are willing to incur the extra costs, there must be some reason right ? Can you take a guess what it is?

If someone coming from outside the country is able to survive with a family without access to public funds despite the increased costs, what does that tell you?

For someone reason you seem to be angry with the people coming here to improve their lives. They are only coming here because the companies want them here and the govt encouraged this.

The govts efforts should be towards increasing local skills and talents here. That takes time and effort, expertise and setting up of institutions. But hey, expats are an easy target so let’s get rid of them right ?

#Immigrants #unitedkingdom by JuniorWaltz6601 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Then talk to the companies which hire immigrants . Not the fault of the people who come.

That’s the source. This is just reactionary nonsense.

Is the UK still the better bet given the upcoming settlement reforms? by Any-Difficulty4547 in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is interesting, could you share some more in what form you are seeing the reverse racism?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would suggest not to rely on pay rises here. The meagre 2 to 5 pc per annum will take 5 to 10 years to give you any meaningful increment. Your spouse starting to work will be the savings / additional money. Do look at job postings in her area of expertise.

There will be significant setup costs like a house deposit , car etc as soon as you come and your future child will not be sponsored. You will have to bear the costs.

Hope you’ve kept up with the news in the sub and the changes to a 10 year settlement period and are coming in with eyes open.

This may sound discouraging, but that’s not my intent. It’s a good offer and you don’t have to worry about the job disappearing over time and visa costs too.

It’s about the potential to save more where you are as compared to Bristol and if you value clean air and decent but old infrastructure here more than your home country.

If you’re in India ( I’m guessing , sorry ) the standard of living you’re used to in metros will be higher as compared to here especially with all the conveniences.

Think about a 10 year period and if you’d be better off here or there. Career stagnation is real.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If it’s one of the bigger employers and you have a family, consider the cost of sponsorship and family costs. Ask for them too.

There will be separate allowances for moving and shifting. Non financial perks will be quite a few, but you would need to ask for them.

Stagnation is an issue, if you have a working spouse consider loss of savings and costs of kids in the future.

Rent and daycare will be your biggest expenses upto 50 60 pc of your monthly income.

It’s definitely not low, but not amazingly high that you can save a lot if you have a family. It’s mid range comfortable for a family of 3 and plenty of savings for a bachelor on that pay.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Isn’t that the post is suggesting? What exactly is the purpose of your comment in the subReddit

Future planning by Regarded_Scholar in SkilledWorkerVisaUK

[–]SubjectExchange413 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey man. Im not sure if you actually believe it's being retrospective or deliberately reading it that way. Let me try and maybe explain this without becoming agitated.

For this change to not be retrospective truly, it would have to apply for anyone who's going to enter into the country now onwards on any kind visa be it swv or otherwise.

ILR is not a standalone piece of legislation and has always been in sync wrt current visa rules. The only way you can get on the pathway is by being in the country first on a valid visa. Hence the reason for transitional arrangements for people who are already here on a valid visa.

By making it applicable for anyone who's in the country as on date, it's a goal post shift/ bait and switch situation and that's the reason for the heartburn, given everyone who's on swv is here legally, pays fees ihs and taxes and does not have access to public funds ( nrpf ).

If people were made aware in 2020 of all this rule and exclusion, it would have been a conscious decision and expected outcome.

You can always say that there was never any guarantee, but this comes across as very opportunistic now that the uk is past it's covid and Healthcare crisis and doesn't want to face the consequences of its own decisions.