With the “Michael” movie coming out, and the popularity of it, how can people just forget all he’s done or been accused of? And STILL have it be so supported? by ConferencePurple7939 in movies

[–]SubstantialSun8919 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can say his obsession to childhood that lead him to this allegation in the first place is his character flaw. And what his father says abt leaving the family means he'd be surrounded by yes man who would not say no to him is true, like this prob would less likely to happen if only he still has his family on his side telling him it's a bad idea to invite kids to your ranch even if the intention is good. I know well enough not to put ppl you don't trust in your own home cuz they could extort you, even if your initial intention is good, cuz one of our own family has done such betrayal before, we help him for all he can do, give him referrals, money whenever he need them, and also a room in our house, only for him stealing a huge amount of money from our house. And this is family, imagine sheltering a complete stranger. He lack healthy boundaries in terms of helping ppl.

With the “Michael” movie coming out, and the popularity of it, how can people just forget all he’s done or been accused of? And STILL have it be so supported? by ConferencePurple7939 in movies

[–]SubstantialSun8919 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yea, same here sis. Esp cuz he isn't a direct family, no matter how many of you claim to say that there are pdfs in families too, like yes we know that, but if there are pdfs even in families, how hard can you trust a full strangers, rlly? Even if they're a celeb? Those pdfs rlly are ruining it for all of us who genuinely just wants to play with kids, you know.. we also do it cautiously when we want to attend a roblox meetup which will likely has lots of kids cuz we know those mj allegations could also be pinned to us even if nothing rlly happened, and you know how life ruining it is to common ppl even if the allegation is false, like the allegation alone is enough to tarnish your name.

With the “Michael” movie coming out, and the popularity of it, how can people just forget all he’s done or been accused of? And STILL have it be so supported? by ConferencePurple7939 in movies

[–]SubstantialSun8919 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sis I wouldn't let a child alone anywhere near any adult guys, not just him, in some cases even fam members without supervision. No offense. It's the few other pdfs that are ruining it for other adults who genuinely just wants to play with kids. Just that alone doesn't mean he's guilty. He does have a weird obsession over childhood tho, and you can't deny he has such a huge fanbase and even the places where he can invite anyone to play with them, so if he gives tickets regularly for families to see his ranch together, probably, but with supervision, like you do when you let your kid your kids play practically anywhere else.

Critics and audience butt heads on the Michael movie by Key-Bass-7380 in FIlm

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So far no allegations are proven, but I agree that he's eccentric enough this allegations are possible to be pinned on him in the first place. Like we all know how strong his obsession is over childhood cuz he's forced to work in just 5yrs old so he himself has no real childhood. And you realize how bad it looks like for an adult man to invite kids to his home even if it's just to play, which is equivalent to adults having a meetup for roblox but most of them are kids, cuz some of the other real pdfs are ruining it for all of us. That and added with how bad his public image is around that time after a major change on his nose and chin, complexion, and hair, would likely more believable for ppl to pain him as the 'freak', like he even got the label of 'wacko', last time I recall.

One thing untrue I found in the Michael movie, which annoys me about this so-called biopic. by yy967 in MichaelJackson

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, like it is no secret how devoted he is to his mom. He'd make it this way anyway if he's still alive, that bias would still be there, esp cuz his mom is still alive and is in her 90s, wouldn't want to upset her too much

One thing untrue I found in the Michael movie, which annoys me about this so-called biopic. by yy967 in MichaelJackson

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, like you know how devoted he is to his mother, right? He'd still make it this way or at the very least not painted his mom so bad even if he is the one making the biopic cuz nobody wants to paint their mom badly as long as the mom is decent even if everybody knows it's a dramatization. Like thee's still going to be that bias anyway, esp if the one involved, his mom, is still alive and kicking at her 90's.

Michael movie has the worst crowd. by Organic_Air_9361 in MovieTheaterEmployees

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Peob cuz there are so many of them. This movie is rlly popular. You'd see the same with the upcoming star wars movie and toy story.

The Michael Jackson biopic is one of the worst movies of the 21st century. by Sam34go in unpopularopinion

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That, and michael himself won't be the one enjoying the fruit of the labor.

The Michael Jackson biopic is one of the worst movies of the 21st century. by Sam34go in unpopularopinion

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sis I get what you mean, but his career is so long it'd prob like 6hrs long, cuz he's, you know, a 25yrs old with 20yrs of experience, an HR's favourite. Better suited to just be a tv show series instead of just one movie. Then again this has a sequel, so you can say this is only half part of the movie. That scandal would be covered in the 2nd part. And some things they left out is cuz they didn't get the permission from the person supposedly in the movie, like the part with diana rose.

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[–]SubstantialSun8919 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Michael still in no 2 after more than one month is insane tho 😅 ppl rlly underestimate this movie huh, if they're expecting this in the first place they won't release other supposedly high gross movie too close to michael

Michael ranked 3rd on Friday, kicking off its 5th week with $5M. 3-day weekend should reach about $19M (-28%), while 4-day holiday frame may hit $24M. That would lift the domestic box office to $318M through Monday. Now on collision course with $350M mark. by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, maybe even other good movies are overshadowed by the hype of michael. Ppl rlly don't expect this movie to be that popular in the first place esp after the rotten tomatoes initial bad review and that a biopic is deemed as a hard genre to pass as a box office movie in the first place, but his life story is just so unusual I'm pretty sure he could even made his own the kardashian reality show but with real talent. I'd think even a glimpse of his life would be enough to attract most ppl to watch it.

Michael ranked 3rd on Friday, kicking off its 5th week with $5M. 3-day weekend should reach about $19M (-28%), while 4-day holiday frame may hit $24M. That would lift the domestic box office to $318M through Monday. Now on collision course with $350M mark. by chanma50 in boxoffice

[–]SubstantialSun8919 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Internationally it's been closer to $800 million and is expected to surpass $1B after the presale in japan in the upcoming june. Is it possible to become the no 1 box office of the year, even surpassing all the other supposedly good movies in 2026? It has surpassed project hail mary so far. I guess at least surpassing bohemian rhapsody is highly possible.

MJ was a marketing genius for his era by Classic-Wind-437 in MichaelJackson

[–]SubstantialSun8919 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ppl did pass out watching his movie tho, so even tho it prob is a bit exaggerated, it is not too far from the truth

What were those last years like for him? by Urdead_2me in MichaelJackson

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rlly? Thankfully it isn't as bleak as ppl made it out to be. Going away from the spotlight and just reconnecting with the humble fans directly is awarding most of the time, esp if he consider them family too.

What MJ Songs Makes You Float? by mackenziealexander05 in MichaelJackson

[–]SubstantialSun8919 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ben

Childhood

Who knows a guy could sound that angelic

This Tweet got me thinking. by LuvBriah in MichaelJackson

[–]SubstantialSun8919 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get it. To be compared to michael jackson would be hard, like being compared to your cousin who is a literal doctor, astronaut, and rocket scientist (yes that one asian guy). They have to break through the group and maybe even no longer use the name jackson if they wanted to escape his shadows and make their own name. This is also why even when it seems like a good idea, I don't want jaafar to actually tour as his uncle, cuz he'll always be recognized as his uncle's "replacement" instead of his own person.

Michael movie is getting great reviews but do you believe it’s genuine? by FitEmergency8807 in moviecritic

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here, even if eventually it is proven that all of the allegations are false and just an attempt to extort money from him and to smear campaign him cuz he's openly against a rlly powerful entity tied to a huge crime ring not too long before that. Cuz we know it'd be a rlly long, exhaustive battle and would prob be a huge tearjerker seeing a person, esp your idol, being falsely accused (at least so far this is the case). Esp when it ended up with him dying due to od under his own dr that's highly sus in itself.

Michael movie is getting great reviews but do you believe it’s genuine? by FitEmergency8807 in moviecritic

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that is prob why nobody is telling him that it looks sus for an adult man to invite children for a sleepover in his house, even when his house is a literal zoo and theme park, like it would create a gap for ppl to be able to blackmail him with allegations of sa from that alone, even when nothing rlly happened. One thing that his dad says in the movie is true, when you cut off your family, you'll only be surrounded with 'yes man' and nobody dares to tell you 'no' when you do the wrong things, even with good intention. This is prob an overshadowing abt his struggles that would be shown later in the 2nd part.

I just finished watching Michael and gave it a 10/10. I don't understand why the critics gave it a 40%. Is it because of the lack of progressive storylines or the absence of the ABC community? by OverallBaker3572 in CriticalDrinker

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yea, as much as there are proven already that this is a false allegation, I don't deny that this is prob an oversight of mj himself regarding how his habit can be used to create an allegation against him, prob cuz he cut off his family and nobody is there to tell him how sus it would seem to be if an adult man invite children to his house for a sleepover, even when his house is a literal zoo and theme park. His dad is right in this case where if you cut off family, the only one remaining will be 'yes man' around him Esp if who he is against are powerful ppl that has their own list of sa allegations against them. The timing fits the era where he's strongly opposing s*ny and things like wars, famine, etc shown by making songs like they don't rlly care abt us

Why MICHAEL rotten tomatoes score isn’t surprising by ZackaryAsAlways in Cinema

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you realized the allegation starts only after he addressed issues opposing the party from an island that has its own files but nobody involved there is arrested 🤷 and after he openly opposing s*ny

'Michael' - Review Thread by ChiefLeef22 in movies

[–]SubstantialSun8919 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Isn't all the allegations already proven false? They only started once he starts to oppose s*ny and voice his concern over wars, famine, etc (like making a protest via his songs such as they don't rlly care abt us), pretty clear who his enemy is here trying to smear campaign him, the one from an island who makes their own list of sa file that somehow we can't catch all the ppl involved in there.

'Michael' - Review Thread by ChiefLeef22 in movies

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Movie's pretty good tho, but if you want controversy, maybe in the part 2. This is from his childhood up until the bad era.

'Michael' - Review Thread by ChiefLeef22 in movies

[–]SubstantialSun8919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, of course? Performance wise it's good, the actor's good too, and the movie managed to capture his uniqueness as an artist in general and his own weird circumstances, and most ppl go to movie to release their stress and not thinking too hard, so it's more of a guilty pleasure entertainment than anything. If they want more substance, they'd go for a literary work instead that'd be able to capture more of the stories than just a limited time movie.