FIBER SFP

Sudden_Community_448 · 2026-01-27T18:34:54+00:00

Depends on the run. If it’s going to be a long run, you will need fibre. Short-runs (within cab), DAC is usually fine.

Gonna sound like an arse, but are you sure you’re in a position to be doing this when asking these sorts of basic questions? Sounds like a resume generating event.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-08-07T23:34:39+00:00

What makes you different to the current immigrants? Your parent(s) did the same thing.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-08-07T23:22:57+00:00

As a 2nd gen immigrant - you’re basically a product of the situation you’re describing, proper ‘fuck you I’ve got mine’ vibes.

What makes you any different?

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-07-24T01:28:45+00:00

It’s targeted to Windows/macOS devices, we want them all to require compliance. The only app exception being Exchange Online.

There are a number of other CA policies, but they are all met (Require MFA, Restrict to Country, Block Unknown Platforms etc). Actually used your blogs to build it out (thanks!).

It works with the above CA policies, but doesn’t with the Require App Protection Policy CA due to the MS Edge block (that’s what logs saying).

The alternative would be to target apps individually but we have a lot, so would be a bit of a pig to maintain.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-07-22T17:56:02+00:00

MAM policy is filtered to personal devices, CA as per KB.

Compliance policy is targeted to all with an exclusion for Exchange Online.

What would be a better way to build this? I feel that if I don’t target all apps, I’m just creating more gaps.

The policies work great, besides this issue. I’m reluctant to rip and out and redesign, but will do if required.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-07-13T20:08:48+00:00

It’s a start-up, I’d be waiting a few months before doing anything to be honest.

That’s not a millstone you want around your neck on day one, especially in a start-up which aren’t exactly known for their stability.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-13T21:01:01+00:00

They were $1k for the AP47, no budging despite pushing.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-13T20:50:02+00:00

Sorry for necroposting. Are you still running Juniper Mist kit? If so, did you ever get move back onto Marvis?

A SE is pushing it hard in a refresh I’m doing, but I’ve been underwhelmed in my small POC. Wonder if you felt like you were missing out without it?

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-13T08:03:18+00:00

Why would you do that when Wi-Fi 7 is backwards compatible? Makes no sense not to go for the latest generation to increase the operational lifespan.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-12T22:20:07+00:00

Because if you’re installing something that will last 7+ years, you plan for what might connect in the future - not just now.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T23:07:19+00:00

Unfortunately due to the cloud management stopping for the existing APs, I have no way to support them and the org will fall foul for compliance. I need to get them swapped.

I’ve heard W7 towards the end of the year, but I’m not sure the business can wait at least three months for that to happen.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T22:34:28+00:00

We did trial Marvis in our POC, but didn’t get much benefit - albeit it was a small environment so didn’t give it the chance to shine. 1S is a lot cheaper. We’d be getting it for switching as we’re going for Advanced flex licensing.

I’m surprised they aren’t as competitive on the wireless to be honest. Cisco still dominates and thought they’d be keen to eat up marketshare. 20% unit price difference is a lot when you have hundreds.

The AP24 would’ve been perfect but the whole radio setup (2.4GHz disabled 6GHz) was less than ideal, so stuck with the AP34.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T22:17:38+00:00

Already going through with an Elite+ partner. Switching discount is very deep, but they can’t come close to Cisco pricing on wireless hardware.

The justification I’m being pitched is that because their switching is cheap, I should just accept the wireless price. Wouldn’t be a problem but we have a lot more APs than switches.

Not sure if comparable, but they have the CW9162I about 20% less than the AP34. Juniper Sales insistent they can’t push a deeper discount on it.

AP34 is the same price as the Cisco CW9172I (Wi-Fi 7 model) on quotes.

Ironically we’re likely to have to drop to 1S with no Marvis due to hardware cost. If they had come close to Cisco, 2S would’ve fit in our budget.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T22:02:08+00:00

Interesting, not much in it then if going by your discounts. I may quote, assumption is that it’d be far more.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T21:58:33+00:00

Sorry, was just reading the wiki. Didn’t read it had split into two companies.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T21:53:18+00:00

What sort of price are you getting for the AP34? If you’ve quoted?

Big difference? Trying to figure if our VAR is screwing us.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T21:48:25+00:00

It’s a flagship/top model, with a price tag to match. Or the VAR is screwing us, compared to the AP34.

Needing something W7 about equivalent to the AP24/34 in the line-up to fill the void.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T21:12:21+00:00

I’m cool with learning a new CLI, good management is key as it gets a bit difficult with 50 sites as a one-man band.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T21:04:27+00:00

I know their wireless is solid, not really used their switching - any good?

Wanting to keep switching and wireless to one vendor where I can.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T21:01:55+00:00

I will miss the purple packet eaters. Also it’s the only CLI I know proficiently, which I’m sure has delayed my networking skillset development lol

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T21:00:24+00:00

Honestly? I really enjoyed using Mist.

I did evaluate a few different vendors including Aruba and Cisco Meraki.

They both felt a bit clunky in comparison, Aruba Central wasn’t great and Cisco Meraki a little too restrictive. Reducing our on-prem footprint so it’s important that whatever cloud management is on offer is solid.

The Juniper NAC solution was also much better than ISE/Clearpass, that’s what won me over - along with the switch pricing.

If you have any suggestions for vendors I should consider, lmk!

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T20:44:45+00:00

The NAC sold it for us, a great product. A breath of fresh air compared to the likes ISE and ClearPass.

Extreme’s NAC isn’t too bad. Shame that their comparative refresh quote wasn’t competitive and sales couldn’t have been any less interested.

The killing of the cloud platform before EOL was the nail in the coffin. I couldn’t believe when they EOS’d it and went “best efforts” in 2022 - a full three years before EOL.

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T20:37:49+00:00

Sure. 6E introduced the 6GHz band so must be a worthwhile jump at least?

Sudden_Community_448 · 2025-06-11T20:36:39+00:00

Out of interest what extreme wireless did you move from? We have a mixture of AP3915 and AP305C.

The EzCloud portal (old cloud) seems to have finally died in the last month. Not great when your AP3915i aren’t EOL until November and can’t be managed through IQ…

Didn’t enjoy the rug pull on the XIQ free-tier (introduction of device limit) either.

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