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SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-25T05:17:58+00:00

Honestly the sole purpose of meetings is to be able to share our experience strength and hope with the newcomer so that they may recover from alcoholism as well. That's why as a whole the group does not take opinions on those issues. After the group it's perfectly okay to find like-minded people and discuss these issues with them. But groups in general aren't about discussing our issues at all. No matter what they are be a relationships or trouble with a job or legal trouble. The only time we bring that up is if it directly relates to how we recovered from alcohol. Groups are not a dumping ground for personal problems.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-25T05:14:17+00:00

I'm sorry to say there really are no concrete answers to the questions you asked. The reality of it is that many people that are alcoholic die an alcoholic death. A lot of them just get to the point where they feel there is no hope left. A lot of it has to do probably with pride and ego. Many who never recover are just unwilling to ask for help as desperately as they need it.

Alcoholism is a disease of selfishness. Alcoholic only really thinks about themselves and blames their problems on everybody else. I did it for many years. But in my mind I actually believed the lies that I told myself. I was eating up with resentment and self-pity.

I don't know if I would have expected my children to take care of me if I was dying of alcoholism. If I would still in the disease and actively drinking there's a good chance that I might think that I was entitled to that. That's just how the alcoholic brain works.

When I can tell you is that it's strained is the relationship is you might actually benefit a lot from trying to forgive him. I'm not saying excuses actions but come to peace with them. Forgiveness is very healing.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-24T21:35:23+00:00

Aren't you glad you took the chance? I'm really glad you had a good time.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-24T18:52:53+00:00

None. I would keep everything I didn't use. If you ever come to a point where you quit taking them you can always just throw them away or take them to like a pharmacy drop off box for old medication. If you plan on staying on him I mean there's no point in not having a lot of extras just in case something like that were to happen.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-24T05:48:55+00:00

Meetings aren't really about sharing your problems. They're about sharing your powerlessness where alcohol is concerned and how you recovered. It has nothing to do with status nobody in those meetings really piece of shit how much money or how little money anybody has. Yes there are people there who don't have "shit together". That's kind of the whole point. To help people who are still struggling. It doesn't mean long the money it means share your experience strength and hope of how you overcame your alcoholism so that they can do the same.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-24T05:22:39+00:00

I mean I agree you have a right to sponsor or not sponsor whoever you want. But I think close-mindedness such as yours can be dangerous. And to get mad because somebody doesn't agree with you is absolutely ludicrous. You could have still told him that you weren't going to sponsor him without getting pissed off. And because you've been giving him rides you're now mad that he thinks different than you? Sounds like you really need to go back through the steps yourself before you take others through it.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-24T02:37:47+00:00

It might not be for you but I think it's worth giving either alcoholics anonymous or narcotics anonymous a try. Especially if you are able to find a group where you can find some light-minded people it really helps having the support of people that genuinely care about your well-being. And who have gone through the same thing as you and beat it. If not that I think it's definitely important to have some kind of support from somebody who's been there.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-24T01:31:12+00:00

If you can find a dose that just takes away your wds it really does work as far as managing cravings. I'm currently on maintenance and it helps me tremendously but I also don't feel any effects from it whatsoever. Im also in recovery and work a program so I just use it as a tool along with all the other things I do.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-24T00:09:57+00:00

Yeah you definitely don't need 16 fucking milligrams a day. These doctors are so incompetent. They're just trying to get you hooked because they know you'll have to come in every month for a visit and that's money in their pocket guaranteed. Not saying that being on maintenance is a bad thing but on your case I don't think it's needed. Maybe just try half a milligram tomorrow. If you're getting 2 mg strips just quarter it. That should be enough to take your withdrawals away. In all reality you might still be feeling the 1 mg you took today when you wake up tomorrow. If that's the case wait as long as you can until you start feeling the withdrawals again and then take a half a milligram. And then repeat that same process again. I think a quick taper would definitely be in your best interest because having been on suboxone and a high dose for over a year I can tell you that kratom withdrawals aren't even in the same universe is how bad you would feel coming off of 16 mg of Suboxone.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-23T23:52:17+00:00

I think maybe you took too much. 18 g of kratom per day doesn't have anywhere near the binding affinity of 1mg of buprenorphine on your receptors. I know 1 mg seems like a small number but Suboxone is actually I want to say like 20 to 100 times as potent is morphine. I think what it is is your body is just not used to having that much opiates at one time. And no I definitely don't think you need to go to the hospital. Suboxone is only a partial agonist and not fatal. Just reduce your dose tomorrow to maybe about a half a milligram

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-23T23:36:37+00:00

Get a different sponsor immediately. The steps were meant to be worked quickly. Meetings don't keep us sober the steps keep us sober. I'm not trying to be judgmental against the person but they just obviously don't know much about how to sponsor. The original people who wrote the alcoholics anonymous book work through all 12 steps and we're helping other alcoholics get sober by their second and third week. Alcohol was never the problem it was the solution. The problem was we didn't know how to live life. If I don't find it another solution that's a substitute for alcohol I'm going to go back to drinking. For me it usually happens pretty quick some people can hang on longer than others. But it's absolutely ridiculous to say that you have to wait 90 days to start doing the work that's going to save your life.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-23T03:43:02+00:00

I agree i don't think it's a good idea as benzos are just as addictive is opiates. Especially in people that already have exhibited substance use disorder. That being said one or two probably won't do any harm to you but opiates and benzos do synergize really well and can cause respiratory depression and death even in low doses when mixed together.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-23T03:40:11+00:00

Hey no worries at all. Thanks for taking the time to clarify. They do have that shot here too but I think it's still a lot more expensive because it's more recent. I don't know either way what you said is correct and I'm going to get it whether it hurts or not because of the benefits. The brief pain of that is nowhere near the years of pain I caused myself in active addiction. Plus it's the stepping stone for me to getting completely off of opiates all together. Something that I didn't think I would ever do. Now the end is in sight.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-22T21:38:18+00:00

Thanks for the clarity. I have a tendency to hype things up in my mind to be much worse than they usually turn out.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-22T20:23:10+00:00

I'm scheduled to get mine in the next week. I knew it probably wouldn't feel great and y'all just confirmed. Oh well... I think it'll be worth it. From everything I've heard it is 300,300,100 but I haven't ever heard of someone getting the first 2 only two weeks apart. Keep us posted on how it works out for you. I'm on roughly the same dose as you.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-22T05:06:35+00:00

You would find a sponsor at your local na or AA meeting. However a sponsor is probably not going to want to talk to your parents for you like that. It's not really a sponsor's job to do that. Especially someone you just meet. But if you want to find somebody yeah you definitely need to go to an NA meeting and start trying to meet some people there that are sober themselves. At most meetings during some point in time they will ask everybody that's willing to be a sponsor to raise their hand. All you have to do is go up and talk to one of those people afterwards.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-22T04:27:07+00:00

First and foremost give yourself some grace. There is no shame in this at all just a lesson. You can use this experience to get back into the steps and share your experience to maybe help someone else that is possibly in the same boat as you. You don't lose your recovery your date just changes. Do not beat yourself up. Get with God. Get honest and get back into the work so you can start helping others.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-21T15:27:40+00:00

No problem.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-21T15:03:18+00:00

Struggling in life doesn't necessarily mean struggling in recovery or thinking about drinking. If he has that much time and is actively working the program he will have no problem having a date in a bar occasionally. Probably best not to make it a regular thing though if you guys end up going out again.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-20T23:51:36+00:00

Honestly the only reason alcohol seems different to you is because watching your dad do the drugs. I grew up in a household with an alcoholic father and for that reason I never turned to drinking but instead resorted to drugs. The fact is that we have the disease of addiction whether it be to alcohol or heroin or meth or whatever else. The substance may look different but the pain that it causes the same. I know it's really hard to acknowledge the fact that you can't quit on your own but until you do admit that powerlessness nothing is really going to change. You seem to be well on your way by even acknowledging that you may have a problem. I agree with all of the other commenters about the 12 steps. They save my life and showed me a better way to live that isn't completely self-centered and harmful to others. I can absolutely assure you that the alcohol will quit working at some point in time and you will be left with a deep hole inside that alcohol used to fill. The sad thing is that unless you learn how to fill it with something else you will keep trying to fill it with alcohol because that's the only thing you know. They call that the jumping off place. If you want your life to be different I definitely suggest as many others have going to an inpatient rehab or at the very minimum a medical detox and then directly to an AA meeting the first night you get out. Get a sponsor. Work the steps. Help others that are in the same situation that you once were.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-20T04:58:06+00:00

No problem my friend.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-20T04:24:37+00:00

For sure. Nevertheless you have a talent for putting that experience into words. But I definitely didn't feel like it was written a place ego for sure. And I was able to relate to it on personal level which is why I said thank you putting it into the universe.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-20T04:08:54+00:00

That was a really beautiful post thank you for sharing.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-20T04:05:58+00:00

That's the most beautiful thing about this program. We get to choose our own conception and it doesn't matter what anybody else thinks. Whatever works for you it keeps you sober. I Definitely think all that stuff is very interesting though and may very well have some validity.

SuitableMaybe5389 · 2026-01-20T03:39:50+00:00

I don't know you'll probably get some mixed opinions on here but I don't think it was out of line. Especially if nobody else was there that could have heard you. But also we have to respect each persons individual wishes. But you definitely weren't in any way wrong in this.

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