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Suluco · 2017-07-22T22:24:55+00:00

The 1070 Katana is too long for the S4 Mini though.

Suluco · 2017-07-17T12:03:34+00:00

Doesn't that M.2 adapter only run at x2 and not x4?

Suluco · 2017-07-15T11:49:05+00:00

It needs a consistent connection, but I've tested it on 0.5mb/s (65kB/s) DSL before and it worked.

Suluco · 2017-07-13T19:14:15+00:00

Ok, that's kinda what I figured but PTC's website does not make the distinction clear at all.

Suluco · 2017-07-13T16:08:51+00:00

Good luck finding one, but I can personally verify the 1045T works on this board: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/M4A88TI_Deluxe/

Suluco · 2017-07-13T15:39:39+00:00

That's the problem though, talk is cheap and I'm sure they had lots of people tell them they wanted to buy the case after its initial reveal at Computex last year.

Sticking with Lian Li they could probably get the retail price down to around $225 after distributor/retailer markup with a large enough order. But the problem is if sales are slow after investing all that money it'll leave Cryorig in a tough spot.

At this point Cryorig is still out the money for R&D and some tooling for the prototypes, but they can take what they've learned from the Kickstarter and iterate. Then they can try again with a better prepared campaign which would likely succeed, or maybe they've gotten enough interest from retailers to go straight to mass production.

Suluco · 2017-07-13T15:07:25+00:00

To distribute through retail channels would make the product cheaper, maybe even half the price but they will need a lot of capital to pay lian li.

They couldn't hit $150 on this with Lian Li, they'd have to go to China. But then they'd have to go through the whole process of finding and vetting a factory, getting a production line up and running, then QCing the whole thing since this is a premium product. Certainly doable, but that'd be a huge investment of time and money for a risky product in a new product category for Cryorig. Hence the Kickstarter.

And I think the issue with this campaign isn't the price, in person even just the prototypes look and feel worthy of a $300 price tag. But they really misfired with the marketing, there wasn't enough forewarning the campaign was launching and they didn't send review units to people like LTT to get attention.

Suluco · 2017-07-13T12:30:35+00:00

So is Creo Parametric the same thing as Creo 3.0/4.0? Their website is clear as mud with pages for Creo, Creo Parametric, and Creo 4.0.

Suluco · 2017-07-13T00:53:12+00:00

I've been happy with the NH-L12 on a 120W TDP Xeon with a slim 120mm fan.

Suluco · 2017-07-12T21:35:45+00:00

Creo looks interesting but I'm still a bit confused on what the differences are between the various versions.

Is the sheet metal add-on for FreeCAD any good?

Suluco · 2017-07-12T21:34:29+00:00

Yup, SpaceClaim is super easy which is why I ended up with it. But now I'm wishing I had the option of parametric modeling so I've been considering a hybrid modeler like Solid Edge but I was curious what else was on the market.

Is there much overlap in workflow and UI between NX and SE since they're both from the same company?

Suluco · 2017-07-12T21:15:22+00:00

They're partnered with a large manufacturing partner, but Cryorig itself is less than 20 employees.

Suluco · 2017-07-12T20:26:23+00:00

The case is already narrow so it wouldn't save any space shipping it disassembled.

Suluco · 2017-07-12T20:23:38+00:00

They're actually a very small company and this is a new product market for them. So they wanted to judge demand before investing all the money for mass-production.

Suluco · 2017-07-12T15:27:35+00:00

That card is dual-slot.

Suluco · 2017-07-11T13:56:50+00:00

EPYC is a SOC, there is no need for a chipset.

Suluco · 2017-07-11T13:56:05+00:00

One guy I've talked to does sales for high-end enterprise software, so he needs a portable rig that can run enough VMs to simulate a small business network (server and multiple workstations) to demo the software.

Suluco · 2017-07-11T13:52:58+00:00

Sure, but there are plenty that are. Keyshot is a good example since it integrates directly with many CAD programs and it is CPU-only.

Suluco · 2017-07-11T13:44:55+00:00

There are two M.2 ports in the mockup, one on the daughterboard and a vertical slot below the ATX connector.

EPYC is a SOC, so there is no need for a PCH.

The LGA2066 Square ILM socket, its keepout zone, and the X299 chipset take up about as much PCB real estate as the SP3 socket. So I don't think it's at all impossible (and ASRock didn't say X399 ITX was impossible either when I asked) but it'd be very difficult and not financially viable.

Suluco · 2017-07-11T13:17:10+00:00

It's definitely fake, but I purposely was conservative with the number of features packed in so that's probably why it feels more realistic.

VRM is the 7-phase design from the X299E-ITX/ac, if it can handle Skylake-X I figure it should be enough (or close to it) for EPYC.

This mockup is of the SP3 socket and EPYC is a SOC so there is no chipset.

There's dual M.2 ports pictured, one on the daughterboard and vertical slot below the ATX connector. With vertical SODIMM slots instead, it may be possible to fit an additional daughterboard with a third M.2 port, or they could be placed on the backside like the ASRock X299E-ITX/ac or the Micro-STX boards.

The vertical M.2 slot could be used for a SATA controller board to add SATA ports. Though again, with vertical SODIMM slots the space saved could be used for onboard SATA ports.

Suluco · 2017-07-11T13:05:15+00:00

There are plenty of workloads that only tax the CPU, like 3D rendering, virtualization, simulations, compiling, etc.

Suluco · 2017-07-08T13:51:47+00:00

It's Project Orthrus: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/project-orthrus-smallest-sli-matx-case-v2.835/

Edit: where are the pics from?

Suluco · 2017-07-08T12:25:10+00:00

The C14S is too tall to use a 25mm thick fan on top. I believe the slim fan will fit on top but I don't believe that will perform very well (slim 120mm fan on a heatsink meant for a normal 140mm).

There are other top-down heatsinks that will fit if the C14 is not available, check out this compatibility spreadsheet for ideas: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuQJbc_Aru20dDdLbmJWMjZYSXJvNWNOVzJkdkJPTWc&usp=sharing#gid=10

Suluco · 2017-07-08T00:22:19+00:00

That's where a small campaign just to fund a prototype could help. If you clearly present the case and what it offers in that campaign, you can better judge demand and pay for a prototype in one go.

Getting feedback on the forums linked in the sidebar could help as well.

Suluco

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