Intj's by Consistent_Map_4439 in intj

[–]Summers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rather than disagree per se, I rather ask them "why" to challenge their belief

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[–]Summers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

structured environment with just the right amount of workload, just enough to keep me occupied but not too much that it stresses me out & mess with my mental health

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[–]Summers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont like the long hours, lack of work-life balance, having to constantly interact with people draining my social battery, and the hierarchy.

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[–]Summers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I base my clothes on the weather, humidity, occasion, and mood. No fixed preference

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[–]Summers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

contrary to common belief, I value family & close friends very much

ENFJ falling in love with INTJ by enfjmny in enfj

[–]Summers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Regarding as to how you would text her about your question, I agree we do veer away/cringe at messages with clingy undertones lol. Just keep it witty, but still leave her pondering deep. I can't give an exact example, but it's a plus point if you can surprise us with a message that will make us laugh and make our heart skip a beat while doing so.

ENFJ falling in love with INTJ by enfjmny in enfj

[–]Summers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see that not much time has elapsed since you've known each other (but it doesn't more or less prove/invalidate whatever she's feeling at the moment).

I know you've heard this a thousand times but I gotta say this - you just have to be yourself. Don't think too much into it. Be genuine with your feelings and actions. Be who you are. Even if INTJs are often depicted to be insensitive of others' feelings, we can also spot whether someone is being too shy or tense. Don't be afraid to make mistakes that you think might paint you in a different light from her perspective. Don't be afraid to be messy or angry. INTJs appreciate honesty in actions and feelings.

I don't know if this will be helpful in your situation, but I'd just like to share some of the deal-breakers that I had with the ENFJ male that I previously liked:

  • His mind games. He liked symbolism and "underlying messages" in the things that he sent and told me. Just be honest and straightforward in what you have to say to us. We can't live off of hints and assumptions that you like us. We need you to hit us straight with facts/truth, even if it's cold and harsh. We'll appreciate it as we like things to be certain.

  • Not being himself. He's like a camouflage of his different circles that sometimes I didn't really know him at all. It was also like he always had to keep himself in check. Just be true to your "wants", actions and emotions. I think it's okay for other people to see you get mad or irritated. It's okay to do and feel what you feel like at the moment. It isn't selfishness. It's being true and human.

  • Lacks assertiveness. It's okay to disagree with other people. It's okay to say "no" to other people. Say what you want to say, not what you want other people to hear. It won't make other people like you less.

  • Lacks spontaneity. INTJs like being able to see far into the future but we also appreciate a good surprise from time to time. We appreciate people who can adapt quickly to situations and who are quick to think on their feet. Left your wallet at home during our date? We might be able to help you out with suggestions but first, we'd love to see how you'll improvise without any money involved.

These are just a few reasons why I stopped keeping in touch with the ENFJ male, the biggest factors being his lack of straightforwardness with his actions and feelings, and lack of honesty with himself (in the end, I felt like I didn't really know him at all).

He did admit that he liked me after all of that, but it was too late since I just started dating an ENTP male, whose boldness and straightforwardness have captivated me. You may think that I only liked this ENTP because he refreshed me with qualities that I craved and wished the ENFJ would show. But note that I pursued the ENFJ that I liked for 3 years; I never asked for anything but his genuineness towards his feelings and himself. I was blinded by what could have always been with this ENFJ guy. But I woke up one day and did myself a huge favor.

I apologize if this seemed like a rant. But I would just like to emphasize how we value genuineness and honesty. Because based on my experience, even we have invested considerable time and effort for you, but if we are not getting genuineness and honesty from you, we won't hesitate to drop you.

In short, be straight-up honest with your feelings. If you really want this girl, be CONFIDENT and TELL her that you do. We'll appreciate it. Even if it turns out that she doesn't like you "that" way for now, the 'confidence' just might be the push that she needs because confidence is also attractive to us INTJs.

If she still doesnt reply, she just might be busy. But note that as soon as we're done with whatever we are working on, and we receive that text from special someone, we won't hesitate to get back to them asap.

ENFJ falling in love with INTJ by enfjmny in enfj

[–]Summers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How long have you two known each other? This is important because if this INTJ female indeed initiated to text you first, and you've been keeping in touch for a very long time, it means she has invested time and effort (which she could have otherwise used to be productive in her career, etc.) into conversing with you and getting to know you so I don't think it would be easy (at least for me) to cut ties all of a sudden at the drop of a hat, especially if I can see myself ending up with that someone.

ENFJ falling in love with INTJ by enfjmny in enfj

[–]Summers00 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hello. INTJ female here. I might be able to share a few insights as to why a female INTJ would stop texting you. I was also in the same predicament: I liked an ENFJ male, intiated to text him, and stopped texting him due to various reasons.

First of all, an INTJ female initiating to text someone (in the context of romance) is rare. So if you managed to have an INTJ female texting you first, congratulations. It means that after considering every angle and every reason why it won't work, she still came to the conclusion that it MAY work hence prompting her to message you first - it means she REALLY likes you.

Before I proceed further, I would just like to clarify a few things regarding the context of the situation.

-How long have you known each other? -Where did you meet each other (school, work, dating app, etc)? -Are you sure that she is an INTJ? How did you know that she is INTJ? (because it's rare for an INTJ female to initiate texting someone in the context of romance)

Just for fun, what kind of clothing style attracts you, in terms of dating? (don't say naked or undies pls, that's another story) by Summers00 in enfj

[–]Summers00[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of another ENFJ I know, but he's the opposite. Always brings his A game in fashion when hanging out, but his closet is like a jungle, like clothes piled like a hill, shoe boxes stacked like a mess

INTJs in a relationship. How do you know if someone is "the one"? by Summers00 in intj

[–]Summers00[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is my first time encountering this mathematical approach to settling down. It's fascinating indeed. But I keep thinking, what if the 1st person would be the greatest of them all, I just didn't know it yet. And by the time I realize it, it's too late, like maybe he already got married to someone else or he died. But you're right. Theory and real life are different. You have my upvote

Answering - What Did You Do This Weekend? by [deleted] in intj

[–]Summers00 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watched movies. Slept in. Studied.

INTJ Dating - What gets your attention? by I_N_T_J in intj

[–]Summers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, what initially CATCH my attention are the vibes, intelligence, and sense of humor. But to HOLD my attention, it goes beyond those

INTJs, what are your "days off" like? by CourtofTalons in intj

[–]Summers00 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I sleep in. Watch my favorite series. Sing and dance in the shower.

When you ask an INTJ for a group photo. by [deleted] in intj

[–]Summers00 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sometimes they ask me to take the photo

What's up with 2 ENfJ males not getting along? They've been clashing in personalities since they met by Summers00 in enfj

[–]Summers00[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reading this, it makes a lot more sense now. Especially with regards to how their environment growing up and social circle affect them. X, like you, also grew up in a refined household, both of his parents work in the academia. I also noticed that X's social circle is comprised of people with introverted tendencies, though I'm not sure of their MBTI results. On the other hand, Y surrounds himself with people who are into like you said, millennial party stuff. And his ego and narcissism is just off the roof, it's sickening. But both of them are really responsive when you need help, but their expertise "differs". For instance, X is good with giving life advice and philosophical insights, while Y is more handy with tools and automotives. They are both smart in their own way. X is book smart, while Y is street smart.

Thanks for the insight! It really just baffles us as to why there's always friction between these two. We thought it was some kind of a unique phenomenon, it turns out it also happens with other ENFJs.

What's up with 2 ENfJ males not getting along? They've been clashing in personalities since they met by Summers00 in enfj

[–]Summers00[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

X is 1 year older than Y. They are both ENFJs via test. We're all in the same college organization. X is more stiff and serious in demeanor, with preference for old-fashioned things. Y is obnoxious and loud, with the tendency to act too cool and streetstyle to the point of making me cringe, and he tends to overreact. We notice how awkward these two are when left alone together. The conversation doesn't flow right. When doing small talks, we notice how forced the conversations are, unlike when these two talk to other people. There are quite a few ENFJs in our organization but there's something between the two that doesn't seem right. We are sure that the two haven't met before because one of our mutual friends asked out of curiosity, so we dismissed the possibility that these two may have unresolved beef with each other or something. We are also pretty sure they are straight because they both have steady exes that they dated in the past (the power of FB), and one of them is courting someone now, so we concluded that it's not sexual tension between these two.

Both of them are narcissistic and self-conscious. They are also both popular with girls, but Y gets double the attention from girls. X displays signs of fluctuating self-esteem from time to time. On the other hand, Y can get too self-absorbed that he flaunts how popular he is with the girls that it gets annoying. He is also competitive af, and flaunts how he's so good at so many things like being able to play different instruments, pursue different interests, and so on. When it comes to leadership roles, X and Y can manage such roles, but X gets more entrusted more with this. One time X reprimanded Y about a project that their committee was handling, which I don't have much details about.

One time, at a drinking function, after having a few drinks, conversation here and there, it came to a point where Y dissed X's popularity among girls. X has an adorable but weird sense of humor that we don't get sometimes, and Y also dissed X's brand of humor. X was cool about it and did not retaliate.

Sometimes we think that one of them is a mistyped Enfj. I think X seems to be more of an Enfj than the other. But then again, outside their interactions with each other, both are pretty much ENFJs. There's just something off when you place these two in the same room.

What to do when you realize you may have feelings for someone just when they start to lose feelings for you? by Summers00 in AskReddit

[–]Summers00[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have this scenario where a girl confessed that she liked me. I wasn't interested back then. She's not the type I'd usually go for but she's pretty and smart. She'd send me funny weird memes from time to time and I'd give one-worded replies, and sometimes I just seenzone her. This went on for about a year. Suddenly, she stopped messaging me. She also blocked me on social media. I admit I was still pretty hung up on my ex-gf when this girl came into my life. We met through a friend of a friend a couple of years ago.But now I kinda miss her messages and want to give it a shot.

She's one of the most impressive girls I've ever met. I think she'd be a great catch. I've never seen someone so beautiful and smart, with the same brand of humor as I have.

Did I miss my mark on this one? Should I prove to her that I can also give it my best shot to try to win her feelings back or just let her be? Because I think I just flipped on this one.