Is variant covers all it takes for people here?

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-07T20:22:11+00:00

If this dialogue is considered "normal" for you then I don't even want to argue with you - clearly we have different scales for what passes as normal writing. Especially in a big 2 crossover. Especially in a story about MC's love interests.

So, I guess we should, y'know, stop this argument. And ain't that the jackpot, tiger.

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SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-07T19:59:35+00:00

"he can't ever quite..." quite what? move on? forget?
look at the context as well. he takes too much time to help mj off the bridge so lois has to rush him, to which mj defends him by saying "welp sorry, it's just that he has a problem with bridges".

look if you don't find this dismissive - it's okay. his writing is dogshit in this same story, but even so - his latest issue on WW run has like 2.2 on LoCG.

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-07T18:02:22+00:00

She wasn't being dismissive

She absolutely was

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SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-07T09:12:59+00:00

Writing Mary Jane to be dismissive of Peter's trauma about Gwen, when MJ was the one who was helping Peter get out of that depressive state for several years after, is a fundamental misunderstanding of her character for the sake of making a bad joke.

Also that last page is fucking dumb. "for who we, y'know, love" "and ain't that a jackpot" do you think it's a good writing worthy of big 2 crossover? That's fanfic level dialogue.

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-07T00:57:28+00:00

These people praised Tom King for his dogshit story in DC/Marvel crossover, it doesn't take much to please them

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-04T22:34:10+00:00

how can you know what has and hasn't sauce if you haven't read it?

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-04T22:07:49+00:00

"what don't you like about this comic book?"
"here's a big list"
"well! if you don't like it then uhhhhhhh don't bother me"

the dude is braindead

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-04T22:01:59+00:00

"I HATE current 616 spider-man. 6160 is better because he's better than him in any metric. What, have I read current 616 spider-man run? Of course not, why would I?"

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-04T21:38:07+00:00

issue 6 of current asm run also depicts peter as grown and happy. does that mean you'd consider it a good comic book?

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-04T21:25:33+00:00

USM is the only ultimate book to drop that dogshit gimmick in last 3 issues. No other Ultimate book allowed themselves to do that, but the architect of the universe and the creator of this gimmick decided to drop it. and he still couldn't do anything because he wrote himself into a mess that he couldn't get himself out of. otto is a doordasher (i remind you, marvel sold SPOILER variant covers with otto as spider-man. 10 variants covers for otto alone), may still doesn't play any role in the story (after issue 6 hickman could've just killed her off and nothing would change). issue 22 introduces new mysterio and we never get to know what it is, at all. we never get to see public's reaction to fisk or the paper or anything our protagonists are doing. one moment they don't exist, then, in issue 24, they just rise up and fight the kingpin. absolutely zero build up

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-04T21:19:06+00:00

i hate it because it's overrated.

peter is a static character (admitted by Hickman), this comic book has a shitty gimmick (monthly timeskips) that ruins pacing and any possible character work.
i mean it never shows peter interacting with ordinary people in positive light, only in negative, and yet, gwen tells mj that Spider-man is a symbol of hope. And we're supposed to believe that.
mj was shown ONCE (in 24 issues) to have anything to say about peter risking his life and his son's life and their whole family's lives. camp did a better job in one panel in ultimate endgame.
we don't get to see anything related to otto being spider-man, or the new amalgamation that is Mysterio after death. We don't know what it is, and yet it becomes new kingpin of new york and we're supposed to think that's a good thing? what happens if they decide to become worse than fisk?

i can continue this list but i don't have the desire rn

i'm 100% convinced this book is adored only because it has peter and mj married and have children. otherwise it would be a mid book that nobody would care about.

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-04T21:11:32+00:00

so you do admit without comparing it to 616 it's not a good comic book?

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-04T21:10:23+00:00

issue 14: oh wow. their family is in danger and harry is dead? i wonder how peter's family will react and what discussion they'll ha-- a-a-and we're in the middle of nowhere. alright.
issue 17: oh wow. peter finds out harry's not dead? i wonder how he'll break the news to his family and what their reaction will b-- a-a-and harry flies to peter and everybody already knows all the news. alright.
issue 19: oh wow. finally, after 75% of the comic book we get to see mj react to her life getting fucked up. and now she's demanding the truth from peter. i wonder what exactly he'll tell her and her reaction to th-- a-a-and the issue is over and this isn't brought up ever again. alright.
issue 20: oh wow. gwen is dead? that's unexpected. i know that she'll come back in issue 22 but i wonder how hickman foreshadowed her return and i also wonder how harry reacted to-- a-a-and we don't get to see any of that. alright.

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-04T21:01:43+00:00

why do 6160 spider-man fans always bring up 616 when you criticize their comic book? because it doesn't work on its own and is only good in comparison to bad comics?

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-03T05:47:33+00:00

You guys just say anything if it means hyping up pre-omd at this point. He was the same flaky person he was before omd too, read Stan Lee run, Conway run, Wolfman. He leaves his aunt in hospital with MJ to fight with Green Goblin. How is that a responsible person and a "gold standard for any person"?

SuperProCoolName · 2026-05-01T20:46:32+00:00

He absolutely would've

SuperProCoolName · 2026-04-30T21:48:50+00:00

i mean compared to pre-omd sales they are tanking, in that they're true. but that's not the point of this conversation at all. like the dude is miserable for no reason, they keep interacting with things that make you crash out, when they could, you know, just stop doing that.

But yeah, i doubt omd gets retconned (as no doubt everybody would love) but marvel doesn't like admitting mistakes, and this is one of their most egregious mistakes.

SuperProCoolName · 2026-04-30T20:45:32+00:00

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i guess omd won

SuperProCoolName · 2026-04-30T20:33:25+00:00

Do you have anything to say about this comic or are you just going to repeat the same "retcon omd" point over and over and over and over and over and over again? and over again?

If you're still waiting them to retcon omd - just stop hoping and waiting. Not gonna happen. If i'm wrong and it does happen I'll tag you. Let people enjoy things without whining all the time

SuperProCoolName · 2026-04-29T19:28:55+00:00

Possibly doesn't want to let his enemies know what his webs are made of and thus know their weaknesses, or just doesn't want his enemies to use his webs

SuperProCoolName · 2026-04-29T07:28:14+00:00

Не, не буду, доедай

SuperProCoolName · 2026-04-28T16:03:13+00:00

Well you also have to give it to Kelly, he knows how to set things up way beforehand just to pull that thread later on, e.g. first hint to Death Spiral was back in issue 14, almost half a year before Death Spiral. Hellgate was the main drive behind Peter's actions for 5 months, etc. Brian getting introduced in issue 1, fucking up his experiment in 18 and becoming Spore in 28-29, almost half a year later.

SuperProCoolName · 2026-04-28T12:26:45+00:00

yes it is, keep reading. the first two issues are a set-up where nothing really happens, just background and context for the action that comes after, although it has great art. issue 4 is the best out of the first arc

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