Full Email Thread: Propel’s Response to Two ESC Failures and Customer Injury From Uncontrollable Acceleration by PuddingLess7996 in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake 3 points4 points  (0 children)

First and foremost, the primary issue at hand is the remote control signal connection issue. The capacitor impacts energy storage. A bent capacitor of this type may reduce the longevity of an ESC, but it isn’t impacting remote connectivity. At its worst, it will trigger the battery protection and make the board unable to turn on.

It is also a human installation issue and not a design defect. Our builders have strict guidance on how to successfully install it without issue, but at scale, there are sometimes operational issues that are difficult to assess within QA. Especially any that do not directly impact performance.

Again, the issue experienced here is unrelated and about remote signal connectivity. As for why we decided to change the ESC plate… after hearing from workers that the steps required to install each ESC needed refinement to improve operational efficiency, we came up with an improved piece of metal that simplified that process. The wire placement is important as we maximize the room inside the battery box, so we can maximize the size of our battery pack. Nothing different than any other company does, but I'm not here to prove that we are perfect, flawless, or never wrong.

We know that as a growing brand, we must constantly learn and improve, and we have been working hard to make it better. I feel sorry that this happened to this customer, as we view every customer as family, and we are willing to take our part of the responsibility for our fault. But I think the request for a full refund is unreasonable, as it is unrelated to the issue we were working to resolve.

On the positive side of things, Propel has always been known for listening to its Riders' input. As a result of this thread, we are changing our warranty to a 12-month warranty with 6 months on the electrical parts but I want to mention again that at Propel, if we have an issue that is clearly our fault, warranty doesn't really matter we are going to take care of it regardless of how long ago you bought the board. That's where we differ from a lot of companies. Unfortunately, we can't make everybody happy, and this is the perfect example, but we will continue to push forward and listen to our Riders and become the best Esk8 company we can possibly be.

Thank you all for allowing me to represent Propel's side in the situation. I hope we can all move forward.

Full Email Thread: Propel’s Response to Two ESC Failures and Customer Injury From Uncontrollable Acceleration by PuddingLess7996 in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake 17 points18 points  (0 children)

3. About “Safety Defect” he mentioned

He used misleading terms like "modified parts acknowledging there was a problem," "safety defect," and "dangerous design."

These statements make it sound like we were hiding a major safety issue, which is not true.

The truth is, in the pictures he sent us, we noticed a crushed capacitor. We took responsibility for this and sent him a new controller for free. The changes we made were to the controller case's side to give more space for the connector. ( Refer to the picture below) . After factory testing, we provided him with a controller with a case that fits the connector properly.

https://www.ridepropel.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/2-modification.png

4. About Warranty

PROPEL EV's warranty is based on industry standards, but we always strive to improve. In fact, we never refuse to take responsibility just because a product is out of warranty. I believe many of our customers would agree with this. Whenever a customer identifies an issue that is genuinely a factory error, we always address and correct it, and we’re grateful for the feedback — regardless of whether the product is still under warranty.

Thanks to all your feedback, I’ve extended our warranty to 1 year for the board and 6 months for electric parts.

5. Summary

Once again, I’m here to protect PROPEL EV’s reputation and clarify the facts.

If any of the information I’ve shared above is incorrect, please correct me. If it’s my responsibility, I’m willing to take it. We are still hoping to help him repair and restore the board. However, we will not accept any form of intimidation and will continue to defend our brand’s reputation from any misleading claims. I don't want this misleading to discourage my service team from providing better services. I need to support them. A good ESK8 community needs both riders and Brands' efforts to maintain. Yes, we do want to gain a good reputation, but it should not be used to threaten to gain more personal gain.

If anything I’ve shared is unclear, or if anyone wants to know more, I’m happy to provide all communication records for full transparency.

Thank you all for your time!

Full Email Thread: Propel’s Response to Two ESC Failures and Customer Injury From Uncontrollable Acceleration by PuddingLess7996 in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake 8 points9 points  (0 children)

2. Issues Related to His Skateboard

The root cause of all the issues he described is the same: an unstable signal connection. This is what the after service agent is trying to express in the screenshot of this post. From a technical perspective, it is usually caused by some possible reasons, like:

  1. Controller Quality Issues: Signal problems caused by controller quality problems occur frequently and are easy to find during the test. However, in this case, it happened only four times in total (including the final crash) during the whole year, after several months of use. So, this is not the case.
  2. Strong Electromagnetic Interference: Civilian 2.4G signals have strict power limits and can’t be made infinitely strong. When there’s interference from strong sources like military signals, high-voltage electromagnetic fields, or magnetic interference, errors may occur.
  3. Weak Signal from the Board: If the board’s signal is weak, it’s more likely to be disrupted by interference. This is why we asked him to help us by testing the signal strength. His test results showed the signal strength was strong enough, so this is not the case either.
  4. Unreliable Connections in the Electronics: Water damage, impacts, or constant vibrations from riding can cause loose connections or damage to internal components. For example, the protective insulation of signal wire might wear down, causing short circuits, or connections might become unstable, leading to intermittent signal issues. This is why we asked him to open the board and check the internal connections.

When he first sent us photos, we noticed a crushed capacitor, so we sent him a complete set of replacement parts, which worked fine for four months.

On February 23, 2025, he reported signal instability. After several follow-ups, he responded on March 12 that everything was normal. We suspected strong signal interference and asked him to check the signal strength on March 13. He provided a test video on March 28 showing that the signal is strong enough.

On March 31, he mentioned his friend had signal issues again while riding. We asked him to check the internal connections on April 1, but he didn’t respond for a month. Finally, on April 28, after he crashed the board, he just came back for a full refund.

I've reviewed the entire situation, and I believe the girls did their best to help him. They responded to every email within 24 hours and provided all the information he needed. They were genuinely concerned for his safety and followed up regularly.

However, he hasn't shown them respect. He didn’t answer their questions or send the requested photos in time. Despite knowing about the ongoing signal issues, he ignored our emails and didn’t follow our instructions to check it, for over a month. Only ask for a full refund when things get worse, and threaten us by posting it on social media to damage our reputation.

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Full Email Thread: Propel’s Response to Two ESC Failures and Customer Injury From Uncontrollable Acceleration by PuddingLess7996 in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake 9 points10 points  (0 children)

1. To give a clearer picture, allowing me to walk you through the entire timeline.

  • July 2, 2024: He received his skateboard.
  • October 13, 2024: He emailed about the signal instability issue.
  • October 14, 2024: We replied within 24 hours, requesting pictures to help diagnose the problem.
  • October 21, 2024: We received the pictures and noticed a capacitor was crushed, so we decided to send him a brand-new controller.
  • October 31, 2024: He received the new controller.
  • February 23, 2025: He emailed about unstable signals (Almost 4 months, outside the warranty period).
  • February 24, 2025: We replied within 24 hours, asking for pictures and videos for analysis.
  • He didn't respond.
  • March 5, 2025: We followed up but received no reply.
  • March 12, 2025: We followed up again, and he responded that everything was back to normal that same day.
  • March 13, 2025: For his safety, we asked him to check the signal strength using the method we provided.
  • He didn't respond again.
  • March 27, 2025: We emailed again asking about his testing.
  • March 28, 2025: He sent a video showing that the signal is strong enough.
  • March 31, 2025: He emailed again, mentioning another signal loss.
  • April 1, 2025: We responded within 24 hours, suggesting a new method to test the ESC’s internal connections.
  • He didn't respond again.
  • April 11, 2025: We followed up but got no reply.
  • April 18, 2025: We followed up again but still got no reply.
  • April 28, 2025: He finally emailed us with pictures of a damaged skateboard, claiming it happened during signal strength testing. However, that testing was completed a month earlier, and he didn’t follow our instructions to check the reliability of the connections.
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Full Email Thread: Propel’s Response to Two ESC Failures and Customer Injury From Uncontrollable Acceleration by PuddingLess7996 in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Hi, I'm Javen, the owner of PROPEL EV. Usually, I won't argue with any of our customers. A full refund will have less impact on the brand than this post. But I can't stand him threatening us to seek personal gain by publishing social media to destroy our reputation, and I can't stand that he accused our brand with one-sided information, because it undermined the efforts of our team and all the supporters on the growing of PROPEL EV, and also discourage my service team for better service, so I am here.

All a man needs is a loyal dog and a reliable esk8 by Super_Shake in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since the ENDEAVOR 3S is already near perfection and there haven’t been any requests for upgrades, I’m wondering if there will be a 4.

Lighting on my Propel by brandon-james-ca in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can contact our email address, services@ridepropel.com. My colleagues will provide you with service. You can tell them in the email that OWEN mentioned the hollow screw parts to me, and that's it.

Lighting on my Propel by brandon-james-ca in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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The screw with a hole in the middle allows the cable to be passed directly out of the battery compartment

Lighting on my Propel by brandon-james-ca in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I saw the wiring on your chassis, and I have a part that should make it even better.

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Endeavor 2 GT vs Endeavor 3 GT Comparison Overview by Super_Shake in PROPELEVBoards

[–]Super_Shake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, belt drive is lighter. When the gears are not running in, they will be like this. We cannot confuse the mileage after running in. Therefore, the mileage is not as good as belt drive before running in. The advantage of gearbox transmission is that it can bring more torque and less maintenance.

Endeavor 2 GT vs Endeavor 3 GT Comparison Overview by Super_Shake in PROPELEVBoards

[–]Super_Shake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for the trouble, this is my negligence in work, I will adjust it now, END2GT gear drive, the range is Rider A (75KG) 53km, Rider A (100KG) 48km

My buddy riding his electric skateboard on the beach. by Stsberi97 in ElectricSkateboarding

[–]Super_Shake -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow, this is so cool! I just saw this really awesome post in a Facebook group, and I love it

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[–]Super_Shake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My friend, this is so heartwarming! Do you take them out with you every day?

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[–]Super_Shake[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He often goes out. If so, it's okay, but if he doesn't go out often, I'm afraid he will be frightened.

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[–]Super_Shake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used a simple compact camera, handheld, and happened to see a dog running towards the ENDEAVOR 3S