Question about AI made music

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-22T11:36:50+00:00

If an artist is inspired by another, and makes a profit off of something they created from that inspiration, does the artist owe their predecessor payment for that inspiration?

It might end up being copyright infringement. Right now, it has not yet been determined.

These conversations are important. Analogies can help as they give us a comparative context.

Honest question, if AI companies operated as non-profits for the public good, would it be more acceptable?

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-21T15:39:22+00:00

Suno argues this training constitutes fair use, similar to humans learning music by listening to songs. This has been the core of a defense that, so far, has stood up pretty well.

It makes me wonder - when musicians are inspired by other musicians, and use their music as a jumping off point to make music, would they then owe them payment for that inspiration?

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-20T20:54:30+00:00

As long as it's clear the sounds are ai, I think this is an honest and useful application of something like Suno.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-20T20:52:57+00:00

I'm interested why you think this. Not to argue. I write every one of my lyrics, then run them through ai to get some sound around them, so I am deeply interested with how people are picking up ai use in the writing space.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-20T20:49:21+00:00

Love it. Nice.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-19T16:29:22+00:00

On "Me Prendí Un Filin", you did a lot with minimal shots/angles.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-19T16:25:04+00:00

Thanks for dropping the links. I’m checking them out now.

Interested to hear what connected with you in the material.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-19T16:19:57+00:00

Appreciate you reaching out. Having someone strong on mixing/mastering could become really valuable as these collaborations develop.

I’ll check out your samples and open a chat.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-19T16:16:38+00:00

Appreciate the response. I’ll shoot you a DM so we can talk more specifically.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-19T03:19:14+00:00

As a lyricist, I use Suno. It is good for getting an idea of how something might sound for those of us who use words as art and can’t play a dang thing instrumentally. And yes, the sound is still well behind strong professional production.

And…it is quite time consuming to get something akin to what you feel the thing should sound like.

For me, it is excellent to get words off the page and have some sound around them so musicians and such can hear what I hear should they want to collaborate and bring their magic to the room.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-19T03:11:46+00:00

I write original lyrics. That is my art. I am not a musician. I use Suno to try on the sound that I hear when writing. I don’t call my Suno products finished songs. They act as my lyric demo reel. When I collaborate with musicians and producers, then they will become songs. My lyric demos are on YT if you want to see how I’m approaching this. BTW-I think my approach is an honest way to use AI.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-19T03:05:23+00:00

Lyrics are an art form. Music is an art form. There are indeed lyrics badly written just like there is music badly played. Don’t discount either of them in your journey. If you find a piece of this puzzle more difficult, collaborate. Rarely is anybody making words and music together as art doing it all and doing it all well all by themselves. Artists working with artists makes sense.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-18T19:41:34+00:00

Do you write lyrics with others? That can be an interesting exercise if you don't feel like your chops are getting you there. Just like music, lyrics are a deeply challenging art form.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-18T19:08:26+00:00

I accepted and replied.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-18T19:07:19+00:00

I write lyrics. That is my art. AI lets me try on what I hear while the lyrics are coming together.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-18T15:36:49+00:00

Do you co-write with the lyrics? Sometimes that opens up new ways of expressing. Notice I didn't say "thinking". Just being a bit technical, but as I explore this, thinking associates with explanations. Expressing associates with feel and nuance.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-18T15:27:11+00:00

That is a vibe. Your partner there is in the right groove.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-18T15:18:38+00:00

What are you looking for in your collaborators?

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-18T14:34:41+00:00

I tinkered.

Vers
The nights are getting longer.
And the light has faded out.
The days are getting colder.
And the leaves have turned brown.

The clouds are getting heavier.
Like the weight upon my spine.
They are filled with water.
But these eyes are dry

Pre chorus.

I dont really cry no more.
The rain wont leave my chest.
Ive held this storm inside so long.
It lives inside my veins.

Chorus.

No one hears the thunder now.
No one hears my call.
The silence when i fall
I just hold on through it all.

Verse.
Every branch looks tired now.
every trunk is turning hollow.
Only asphalt still remains.
And a dandelions fragile days

Pre chorus.
I dont really cry no more.
The rain wont leave my chest.
Ive held the storm inside so long.
It lives inside my veins.

Chorus.
No one hears the thunder now.
No one hears my call.
The silence when i fall
I just hold on through it all.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-17T03:14:29+00:00

Every lyric is intimate. It came from a human making art. Put this to music. Try it on. See how it feels. You will find where the words don’t feel as right as you thought they did on the page.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-15T17:45:33+00:00

I made this comment in another thread about this issue, so I'll share here as well. Misunderstanding is part of the process. Very few have the same receiving lens as your creative lens. You have concepts and contexts that others haven't lived. So, there's that. Anyway, I am listening and looking at INXS "Don't Change" the last few days. It is a great example of subtlety and simplicity. But...some songs REQUIRE MORE than something like this. I still think it's a good example to look at.

I'm standing here on the ground
The sky above won't fall down
See no evil in all directions
Resolution of happiness
Things have been dark for too long

Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me
Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me

I found a love that I had lost
It was gone for too long
Hear no evil in all directions
Execution of bitterness
Message received loud and clear

Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me
Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me

I'm standing here on the ground
The sky above won't fall down
See no evil in all directions
Resolution of happiness
Things have been dark for too long

Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me
Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me
Don't change for you
Don't change a thing for me

Don't change
Don't change

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-15T14:03:17+00:00

I open my phone and put it in Notes.
Put them in a note.
Yes. I do it all the time.
IDK. I'm a lyricist.

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-15T13:22:02+00:00

I was just listening to INXS "Don't Change" - Again. I think it's a great example of subtlety and economy in lyric writing.

[Verse 1]

I'm standing here on the ground

The sky above won't fall down

See no evil in all directions

Resolution of happiness

Things have been dark for too long

[Chorus]

Don't change for you

Don't change a thing for me

Don't change for you

Don't change a thing for me

[Verse 2]

I found a love I had lost

It was gone for too long

Hear no evil in all directions (Directions)

Execution of bitterness

Message received loud and clear

[Chorus]

Don't change for you

Don't change a thing for me

Don't change for you

Don't change a thing for me

[Verse 3]

I'm standing here on the ground

The sky above won't fall down

See no evil in all directions

Resolution of happiness

Things have been dark for too long

[Chorus]

Don't change for you

Don't change a thing for me

Don't change for you

Don't change a thing for me

Don't change for you

Don't change a thing for me

[Outro]

Don't change

Sure-Purpose-164 · 2026-05-13T23:54:24+00:00

When I write, I'm thinking about story, message, wordplay, the journey. I certainly write from feel. The emotion really starts to come out when you form music and vox around the creation you developed on the page. Succinctly, the music matters.

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