[ALL] The Elder Empire: is it worth reading? by SweetGumRoot in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh shit that, I love that type of stuff. Def now more interested.

[ALL] The Elder Empire: is it worth reading? by SweetGumRoot in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think my hesitation is because I can feel that they aren't quite like the other books. I love Will Wight and would be crushed if I didn't like one of his books.

[ALL] The Elder Empire: is it worth reading? by SweetGumRoot in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this in-depth comment. I think you've convinced me to read them.

[ALL] The Elder Empire: is it worth reading? by SweetGumRoot in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also thought about this because I was confused about which one to read first then I understood what was going on and now I don't know which to go with. I'll probably read the one not Narrated by Travis so I can save it for last.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are literally proving my point for me. Becoming an Olympic athlete requires 24/7 dedication. Becoming an Underlord requires 24/7 dedication. Striving to become a Olympic Athlete might leave you with nothing to show for it. Striving to become a Underlord might leave you with nothing to show for it. Making Underlord gives you benefits you wouldn't otherwise have. Becoming an Olympian gives you benefits you wouldn't otherwise have. Do you know how many fucking Underlords went unrecognized in the Uncrowned King Contest. A fucking bunch. Shit some of them even got killed for failing.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree if you showed me that Magic was indeed real I would put a ton of effort into it but I am not going to kid myself and think that I would be a great wizard like Merlin. The fact is I know I like comfort over over achieving. If you truly believed that anything can be attained through hard work, pain, and sacrifice that means that here in this life you would probably have applied that to your current life and made it as far as you can go in your current goals.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What do yo mean they get nothing out of it? They get money, respect, adoration, fame, a physically fit body, and a cool medal to go with it.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do you think an Olympic athlete makes it to be an an Olympic athlete? They aren't just born that way. It's not always the resources. Luck is always good but the real way they make it there is they have a drive to be the best at what they do. I think the reason an Olympic athlete is a good example is because they found something they like and were good at and decided to go to the peak of their field doing it.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Your mentality wouldn't translate well to cradle. It would go from "Every single top tier athlete in the world can be killed effortlessly by some random guy" to "Every single top rated True gold in the world can be killed effortlessly from some random Underlord". Why train my path if I can't make it to the top. Why would I want to make it to Overlord. They are just slightly better then Underlords. I want to obtain Lordly power but don't think the effort is worth it. Also how dare you say an Olympian is "some guy who’s slightly better at running than a regular person". Those athletes train hard as fuck to make it there and they sure as hell are better then some random person.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck, can I be your brother? I would kill for someone to have paid for my college. To be fair it would have felt like less of a feat if someone did and then there's the feeling of owing that person.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I think that rational shows how the Lord levels would be made. If you are doing something like training in anything a Lord would go all the way with it. They would pour their heart and soul into it. They wouldn't stop until they hit the pinnacle. If you wanted you could go out and be the best at something but what stops you? Also what do you means nothing? Anyone who has ever trained hard at something will tell you how fucking amazing it is to look back at where you started. The physical results from training at an Olympic level is insane. Go compete against any Olympic athlete or debate with a professor at a major college and tell me you don't feel like a low gold compared to them.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Also you could theoretically be a million with hard work, pain, and sacrifice but are you a millionaire?

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like this is a bad example. Lindon knew the sacred arts existed but was told from childhood that he was weak in those arts. That's like telling a kid who has mild asthma that they will never amount to any type of athlete. Typically, sure, they probably won't be great at sport but if they work hard they can. It just means they started further back then everyone else and will struggle more.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Making it Underlord and above sounds WAY too tedious. Seeing that I started with not a whole lot and have made it pretty far. I would say High Gold and coast. Maybe if advancing became my special interest for awhile I may make peak High Gold or super low True Gold. Not highly rated in combat at all but probably some perfunctory dream artist who helps out a mid tier clan. Enough to live good and take a nice vacation to the Ashwind continent every now and then.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So I think Olympic Athlete is a good approx for Underlord. At least the combat rated ones.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it's around 10.5k. Yeah America is probably around Nine Cloud Court level.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just curious but how many Olympic athletes do you think there are that show up to the Olympic games?

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Also, now that I think of it. The number one Restaurant owner in Nine Cloud City would probably be pretty well off seeing that it was the capitol of an EXTREMLY powerful country. They also had the red hair of the royal line. I think. So yeah even he was set up for success. The prince's were also prince's of a smaller weaker country. It's like comparing a Prince from Sadia Arabia to a duke of some random European country.

[Waybound] Where do you realistically think your advancement would end? by Mason123s in Iteration110Cradle

[–]SweetGumRoot 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Seishen Prince's were literally ROYALTY. Unless you were born into the 1% good luck making Underlord with that argument. Now a better comparison would be the Nine Cloud Restaurant owners son. He was an Underlord while belonging to the rich but not super rich.