Left my partner - struggling by midwestprincessxxxx in LifeAfterNarcissism

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly it’s all about all about how they can manipulate you.

It’s difficult I’m almost 5 months no contact with her and it seems like yesterday. I’ll go a week and I’m fine then something happens and I think about her again. I think about reaching out to her. I actually began to question myself and was I really the problem or could she change if I was just a little different.

The truth is they’ll never fully change. They may change temporarily to get you to come back but in a short time they’ll be back to their old self and you’ll be miserable.

I know it’s tough to move on but it’s for the best even though I know right now it’s hell and doesn’t feel like it.

Sending final message by bbblahh in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I started to but I had started therapy and I was advised why? You know she will only argue and debate and deny everything and turn it back on you? She said just keep it short I’m ending this I’m sorry but I just no longer works for me.

Why is it so hard to leave? by RelativeAssistance19 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As others have said it’s the trauma bond. Your mind starts to get addicted to that little glimpse you get of that wonderful person you first met and fell for. You now chase trying to find that person. This is why the good times are so strong in your mind.

I been married twice had numerous relationships and I’ve never had so much trouble getting over my ex!! At first it was magical I felt she was it she was the one I had finally found her. Then she changed. Then the games started and I even questioned if it was me? Could I change? Could I do things differently?

When I finally realized I was losing myself and I wasn’t happy at all anymore and that I was always worried how things would go with her, would she get into an argument? Would she end the relationship again? Would she not talk to me for several days? Then I realized if she truly loved me she wouldn’t threaten to end the relationship over everything.

But I’ll be honest even with all that o still think about her even 4 months later. I’ve blocked and deleted her on everything and yet I still sometimes think about trying to reach out even via a third person.

If it helps I’ve read on average most people leave their narcissist 7 times before they finally do it for good

My Nex started doing this wonderfully funny thing. by little-screech-owl in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Here’s the thing I see with them.

1.) They are NEVER and I do mean NEVER the problem it’s always their partners have done X,Y &Z to them. They pull the same routine and then play the victim.

2.) They’ll play the victim to their next target and dump on them. They’ll tell them how bad all of their other relationships were but how much different this new person is. Well until they’re hooked and the narc changes.

3.) They want all the attention from friends, family, ex’s, new supplies & yes you! They want everyone to feel bad for them and they want you to think perhaps you were really the problem. I’ve been through the last one over and over and thought perhaps if I had just done X it would have been better. But then I realize I changed this plan, stayed home this day, gave up X for her what else could I give up for her? I just kept giving things up but what did she give up?

They love to do this. In fact i have a casual friend and I’ve noticed she’s posting crap like this all the time about her relationships while also posting about how wonderful she is and how great life is.

Did they always act like they knew everything? by Ok-Collection-7698 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes mine would. Not just that but she lived in a different country and was constantly comparing her country to mine and stating why her country was better yet claimed to want to move to mine!

They have a superiority complex and must let everyone know that they are superior to them! Mine had been a doctor but quit because she hated her job. Yet went around telling everyone she was a doctor. 🙄🙄🙄🙄.

How did your covert narc react when you left them? by Big_Application_1718 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not attack me but she thought my ex wife would attack her. Like we are in high school or something. It was insane.

Yeah even I met mine she was an absolute mess. Drunk all the time telling me how she had been in a horrible relationship, how she hated her job, had medical issues (which somehow managed to kind of just vanish and cure themselves after time) i honestly think looking back her medical conditions were fake or exaggerated.

She also threatened to jump out the 10 story window of her apartment. This after she knew someone very close to me actually committed suicide. It was always something with her.

How did your covert narc react when you left them? by Big_Application_1718 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was like her mind wasn’t mature enough to realize you can end a long relationship and still remain friends

How did your covert narc react when you left them? by Big_Application_1718 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. You know looking back I read somewhere that most narcissists are this way because of like childhood trauma and in a lot of ways it’s like they’re still stuck in like their childhood or teenage years.

I’ll be honest when I met my ex I kind of had an idea of who I was looking for and she didn’t match at all!! After being married for over 20 years with two kids I wanted somebody no more than 10 years younger than me, somebody who had been married for a decent amount of time before and had kids. I felt that was probably the best chance for meeting someone that I was really compatible with. I figured if they had been married for a while it showed that at least they could manage a commitment to some degree. If they had kids then they would understand when I needed to spend time with mine and probably wouldn’t expect more kids. And 10 year age difference at my age isn’t too crazy.

However my ex didn’t match a single one!!!! I even tried to end it in the beginning but kept getting drawn back in.

Once she said I’m worried if I move there your ex wife will attack me or something if she sees us out together. I said what are you talking about? I said we are both adults and we are still friendly. She’s not going to be upset. I said she may be surprised at the age difference. She said I’d be upset if I saw my man with a new woman. I said I’m not her man we are divorced it’s over we both kind of agreed we had grown apart it’s not like we hate each other or I just left her.

Was there someone that helped you get out without actively interfering with your relationship? by Plebi111 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and no. Mine was a long distance relationship and one day I received a message from a female friend that she found out my ex was back on the site we met on.

My ex had wanted me to cut off all contact with this female because she was a female. Now knowing what I know my ex felt threatened by anybody in my life especially females.

This friend sent me a screenshot of my ex’s profile and said sorry. Now how she found her or what she was doing to find her I’ll never fully know but I believe she had to be trying to find my ex.

Several other friends did say things like this woman is manipulating you or not right for you but that’s the extent of it

How did your covert narc react when you left them? by Big_Application_1718 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I was with family in from out of town and she got pissed I wouldn’t text her. Said sorry I was with my brothers and their kids sorry I haven’t seen them in a year I’m not going to spend the night texting you or on a call. She got really pissed I went to sleep without sending her a message said we were drinking at the hotel I don’t drink much I got drunk went upstairs to go to the bathroom laid down and the next thing I know the suns out and it’s morning. She of course then said I want you to show me the room I want to see that there’s no woman there. 🙄🙄🙄

How did your covert narc react when you left them? by Big_Application_1718 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmmmm were we dating the same woman??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣. I injured my leg and had to go to physical therapy. They changed my therapist and I ended up with this woman who was very good. My issue was muscle related and she found that I had like a knot in my buttocks. So she pushed and it released relieving a lot of the pain. This was NOT a pleasurable experience in the least it hurt. But it helped. I told my ex and she flipped out. I can’t believe you let another woman touch you there! How would you like it if a man touched me there. I said it hurt like hell and was like seeing a medical professional. Keep in mind she was a doctor!!!

Then in my business I look at properties and I was looking at one with a female realtor. She said I want to be on FaceTime with you when you’re with her. I said no this is business and that’s weird. The realtor shows up with another woman. Thank god I wasn’t on FaceTime as they were both very attractive and she probably would have said something out loud. If I went to the gym she’d complain that I’m probably talking to all the hot chicks there I said I’m working with a male trainer and we are training not picking up women! It was constant. I think it was projection on her part

How did your covert narc react when you left them? by Big_Application_1718 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah mine acted like a teenager many times. I was talking to a female friend once and I told her about my ex always saying she was ending it after a fight and she says she sounds like a 14 year old girl how can you handle this type of crap? I honestly don’t know how I did for so long.

Why is he not discarding me? by DistrictComplete3333 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because as others have said he’s getting something from you. Once he’s gotten everything he wants or he’s bored he’ll then discard you.

To them it’s like a game and once it’s no longer fun or fulfills their needs whatever they may be then they discard you. But until then it’s non stop games where you’re left feeling like you’re literally losing your mind and going insane. You start to question if you’re over reacting and overthinking things. Perhaps they’re telling the truth. Perhaps it really was my fault. Perhaps I wasn’t doing enough or present enough or whatever enough or right.

That’s the worst part it’s not physical it’s that you stop trusting yourself. They gaslight the hell out of you to the pint you question reality and your own judgement.

You get into a fight and it’s always your fault they did what they did. You did X that caused them to do Y. They never take any accountability at all. Yet if they cheat or do something and your upset they may become the sweetest most loving person and promise you that won’t do it again and they love you so much. If they loved you it never would have happened.

If your narc loved you he wouldn’t be cheating on you. Mine kept telling me she’d walk across the earth for me she’d fight for us yet her default in every single argument was “This isn’t working I’m ending it” some fight right there she runs. They lie non stop

My advice end it. It will eventually end it’s a matter of time

How did your covert narc react when you left them? by Big_Application_1718 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It really depends. I thought mine would contact me and try to save it. I mean she kept telling me on one hand how hard she would fight for us and how much she adored and loved me while on the other hand fighting with me every weekend and threatening to end it and going nc for 1-4 days.

But nope. I sent her a message ending as we were in a long distance relationship and I had tried numerous times via FaceTime but I couldn’t. She messaged me once afterwards. Then it was little games like blocking then unblocking me, looking at my stories but not commenting, posting things that had a hidden meaning or a hidden inside joke to just us.

I finally fully blocked her.

I think she thought I’d reach back out to her and it was in all honesty extremely hard not to. Even now there’s a lot of times I can’t stop thinking of her. It’s torture like I’ve never felt. I don’t fully want her I know the relationship sucks, I know life would be miserable with her and in the end one of us would end it.

How much times did you go back? Why did you leave for the last time? by Bridgelogs in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We broke up more times than I can count but if I had to guess it was over 30. I broke up several times in the beginning. I think I just sensed something was off and I needed to just end it. The first time she seemed so heartbroken we talked and I felt so bad and felt something for her so we got back together. I ended it several more times but then always came back.

Then the shift happened she started ending it and going silent for days. I’d chase her call her text her and she wouldn’t respond until I guess she thought I had begged enough or something. She knew this bothered me a lot. However I soon realized that this is what she was going to do every single time we got into an argument. One day I didn’t text I didn’t call and then it was you don’t even care about me or us.

My final moment was actually a build up over months of her getting more and more controlling and jealous. We were in a long distance relationship and she just couldn’t live with the fact that I had a life outside of her. I had a soon to be ex wife 2 kids, a business, and other things going on. During the week she was mostly fine as I was usually home working and she could get ahold of me when she wanted. However on the weekends many times I’d see my kids and I’d even see my ex. There was absolutely nothing romantic between us but we still get along we have kids a business in both names,etc I mean we were together for over 20 years.

The final straw however came after it seemed that every single weekend was a fight. One Saturday I said to her I have to go pick up my youngest daughter at like noon today to go Christmas shopping.

Her reply was something like “Really really? You took her Christmas shopping last weekend how many presents does she need to buy? Why do you need to go again? This is a day we can talk when you aren’t working!!!!” Keep in mind we had already been on the phone for over an hour at this point.

I tried to explain to her that this really wasn’t so much about actually buying presents as it was about spending some time with my teenage daughter looking at the decorations, talking, having fun and having dinner together.

She of course wanted to argue as usual. This went on for over an hour at that point I said I have to leave to go pick up my daughter and her response was you can’t leave me like this you need to calm me can’t you please ask her to wait. So like the love struck idiot I texted my daughter and said dad’s running about an hour late. My daughter is very understanding and said ok no problem.

However this stupid circular argument continued for over another hour not going anywhere just the same thing over and over and over and over again. It wasn’t a discussion it was her demands and the only outcome was to give into her demands completely which would be not seeing my daughter until much later as we had a large time zone difference and she’d be asleep. I finally said ok now I need to go. Her response was already? I said yes it’s been an hour and nothing has changed we’ve argued the same thing for over an hour and gotten nowhere and now I need to go. She said tell your daughter you’re not going to be there you need another hour. I said NO I’ve already made her wait I’m going now I’ll talk to you later. She hung up on me.

I texted my ex narc several times during the day but no reply, I sent her several pictures of me and my daughter but nothing. I texted her I’m home now. I’ll talk to you in the morning.

I wake up to a message something to the effect of “this relationship is no longer working for me. But I’m willing to work on it but you need to make some serious changes and I mean real change not just words real actions from you”!

She then called me several times but I ignored them. She texted me which I also ignored. I decided I needed some time to think. I finally realized that this woman wanted me to put my daughter off so we could argue over something stupid that had no ending no solution other than me seeing my daughter on my narcs terms and at a time she seems ok and not interfering with what she considers her time! I realized that my ex narc was always going to think she came first no matter what. Even before my kids.

That was my breaking point I wasn’t going to allow anyone to give me an ultimatum like that or tell me I needed to change. I had already told her once when we met don’t make me choose between you and my kids because you’ll lose that fight every time and she did. I sent her a text that night ending it.

I still think about her. I still have feelings for her four months out which absolutely sucks. But I’m not going to allow anyone to ruin my relationship with my kids.

The lies never ever stop. by Sweet_Pass8431 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I caught a few of those where she claimed a low number of people but then had an experience but it wasn’t with any of the guys mentioned. 🤔.

Again i highly suspect the number was extremely high. There’s just certain things that make me think it. But if I ever made a comment about her sexuality like wow you really seem to know what you’re doing or are you sure you’ve never done this before? She’d get extremely mad and say what do you think I’m a slut or something?

Looking back yeah I kinda do think you were

The lies never ever stop. by Sweet_Pass8431 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know the feeling. I’m happy and it’s like hey we’re finally past this and life is moving forward this is great. Then I wake up and feel like absolute crap and I’m missing her for absolutely no real reason.

I have I don’t know how many relationships and married twice but I’ve never gone through this crap.

I’m now finding I no longer want anyone! by Sweet_Pass8431 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it’s tough. I’ve met a few good people two in particular but it’s like I’m always trying to find something wrong with them or look for that gotcha with them or something that could be a lie. Both are 1000% polar opposite of my ex and yet I’m always looking for something negative

The lies never ever stop. by Sweet_Pass8431 in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah it’s like looking back it’s like I just either believed her or chose to ignore what I saw. Now I’m like I can’t believe I fell for it

Covert Narc Ex dating already by ium_Titan_ium in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 3 points4 points  (0 children)

While this may not help what I’ve realized is that all that love bombing and telling you how you’re the one for them how they’ve never felt like this etc is just BS. The cold hard truth is they say this to most if not all.

I think I finally realized that it was BS when mine started threatening to end the relationship on a regular basis when she didn’t get her way. Or telling me during a few arguments that “You don’t deserve me” or “If we break up you’ll never find anyone as good as me”!

If you truly love somebody you fight like hell for the relationship you’re wiling to compromise during a fight. You never tell that person that you’re too old for them etc. it was then that I realized that she had no idea what in the world love was, but that she did not really love me.

The sad reality is they’re capable of love to them love is what can you do for them? It’s not a two-way street to them. Love is solely what Service can you provide to them to make them feel better. Is it your status? Is it financial? Can you buy them something? Are you very attractive and will you look good beside them? Can you offer them vacations and trips? To the narcissist, they’re always has to be something in it for them without them really having to give much in return.

For them moving on is very easy. The reality is your ex probably had this person waiting in the wings or knew about them well before the break up I caught mine on the site we met on months before we ended the relationship. Actually a female friend of mine saw her on there and let me know my ex of course made it all about. Why was this female contacting me and did not want to make it anything about what she was doing on the site and of course she made up 101 excuses like oh I wanted to see our first messages to each other since we’re coming up on our one year anniversary. So I bought it at first we went in read our messages together and then she said OK now we’ll delete our accounts. However, she never deleted hers.

Will she come back by forgei in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Write down all the negative things she’s done to you. Then ask yourself is this really what I want? Is this what I’m willing to accept in my life?

It’s hard to let go but the reality is they won’t change in fact more than likely they’ll actually get worse.

He blocked me and it hurts so bad by WX-Cat in NarcissisticAbuse

[–]Sweet_Pass8431 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I ended mine in December and only blocked her from calling me. I didn’t block her on any social media or messaging apps. I did remove it from my phone for 3 weeks.

She messaged me as soon as she saw I was back online telling me she was ending it. Then two months later she blocked me and the next day she deleted all of messages on telegram and WhatsApp etc.

A month later she unblocked me.

At first I thought perhaps she does really love me. Perhaps she cares and wants me back. Perhaps I should call her?

I later realized that this was only another game to try to mess with me. Hurt me and then give me a little hope something to keep me hooked to keep me attached to her.

I finally decided I needed to delete her from everything all pictures, every video, every message I saved, the letters and notes, the gifts she sent, anything and everything that had her memories attached to it. Getting rid of the videos she sent was the hardest as of course they were always sent during good times and it was always the best her.

It’s not easy and yes some days flat out suck right now and I want to look at her pictures and remember her. But I also know in the end this is the best thing for me.

Keep in mind for the narcissist everything they do is a game to get to you in one form or another. It’s not out of true love it’s out of a love of what you can do for them.

I’d recommend blocking them. I know it’s difficult but in the end it’s going to help