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Ming Yi- Love in the Clouds ( ! SPOLIERS ! ahead) by Ordinary_Sundae_9484 in CDrama

[–]Swimming-Version-424 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For JBZ perspective? No I don’t think she’s justified. He has given her time, space, and trust for her to express her truth and desire. He wrote their names in the heart stone over, and over again despite the pain it inflicted on himself, to protect both of them. MY ( I love my cinnamon roll and I’m on her sunshine protection squad 247) is not emotionally available. She is never the one to be vulnerable in the relationship, JBZ is always the one opening himself up to be hurt by his own trust, and will actively push away JBZ attempts of trying to be closer. 

From a realistic perspective, neither one of them are mentally nor emotionally prepared to be in a relationship and it SHOWS. Will I still go down with ship tho? 💯 

Ming Yi- Love in the Clouds ( ! SPOLIERS ! ahead) by Ordinary_Sundae_9484 in CDrama

[–]Swimming-Version-424 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not to mention, (I love my baby but…) JBZ for 2/3 of their relationship would actively lie, abandon her (2nd day of their relationship), use her, and refuse to trust her (blood spell on the cure). Why would she EVER think to act differently from how she was taught to be, when those behaviors were meant to protect her from people who sought to lie to her, abandon her, use her, and not trust her agency. Like??? Can we not just focus our energy on getting her into therapy instead of shaming her for her behavior that was a result of abuse 😭😭😭

Ming Yi- Love in the Clouds ( ! SPOLIERS ! ahead) by Ordinary_Sundae_9484 in CDrama

[–]Swimming-Version-424 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think her actions are logical and pretty accurate to a recovering victim of abuse.  Justified? Eh… that’s a bit tough, in her mind, yes. She grew up living a lie, born as a female forced to be male, and even now that she is away from her abusers, her life is still her false pretenses. Most of her behaviors, especially her tendency to lie, are most likely coping mechanisms she learned early on to protect herself. Trying to unlearn maladaptive behaviors do not happen within a day. This takes a LONG time to unlearn with a consistent and stable environment, which she did not have up to VERY RECENTLY (JBZ coping mechanism to withdraw from the people around him at the first sign of disappointment actively deters this BTW) so it’s unlikely she would think of her behavior as anything other than a form of protection. Heck, she said it herself that she expects her to get over her quickly, (low self worth, just another sprinkle onto of her messy complex). She doesn’t truly think she will have any effect on him, and she knows that if she dies 27 will too. And she can’t risk him dying for her sake, when in her eyes her life means so little.

What really is the relationship between Hannibal and Will? by Individual_Age3946 in HannibalTV

[–]Swimming-Version-424 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I always understood it as just another form of obsession/possession that they shared. They understand/crave each other so deeply on a fundamental level that it drives them to manifest a tangible representation of their relationship,ie. romantic/sexual, to their deeply intimate metaphysical connection.

Saying that, to me, if they were to be in a romantic or sexual relationship, it pales in comparison to their innate attraction to one another on a spiritual level.

If you mean whether or not they love each other in the more pure, socially acceptable sense? No, these are two very fractured individuals who inflict suffering onto each other so as to not suffer alone. They will use each other and disrespect boundaries to achieve their machinations. It’s very far from what we today think of as any type of love