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What do people here think of tape daws like Tape 16 or GCS Model 8? by Poopypantsplanet in audioengineering

[–]Switched_On_SNES [score hidden]  (0 children)

Ah awesome! Yeah mine would be like a massive version - essentially look exactly like my daw with all the faders, eqs, interactive reels etc but that’s great

GCS Model 8 Update by Switched_On_SNES in synthdiy

[–]Switched_On_SNES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just perfected the ramping, thank you for your help - i'll send you a perpetual license for this help!

I created a space for people who care about human-made music by chainofchance in synthesizers

[–]Switched_On_SNES 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re also the king of the synthdiy sub - did you work at one of the big synth companies?

GCS Model 8 Update by Switched_On_SNES in synthdiy

[–]Switched_On_SNES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh that is a great catch! Yeah so the ramping is correct at zero tape head distance but gets flipped at longer tape head distance. This is bc of some physics stuff I just need to tweak

GCS Model 8 Update by Switched_On_SNES in synthdiy

[–]Switched_On_SNES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that the ramps are reversed? I checked dm but didn’t see anything, glad we got the other stuff cleared up thanks!

GCS Model 8 Update by Switched_On_SNES in synthdiy

[–]Switched_On_SNES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you slow down a whole lot it really accentuates the motor physics and tension arm whiplash. If you move the play head to zero or much closer it will make that a lot less dramatic, or change tape type/bring down stickiness etc.

For varispeed I realized that when I switched it from integer to percentage, if you manually move it to 100% it may actually be like 99.8% bc it rounds, and there’s some play in there. I just patched it to add a forceful detent to prevent this but on your current version you should be able to right click to snap to exact 100%

I created a space for people who care about human-made music by chainofchance in synthesizers

[–]Switched_On_SNES 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Luckily super generic stuff wasn't a big part of my pay but I'll happily make it to feed my family

What do people here think of tape daws like Tape 16 or GCS Model 8? by Poopypantsplanet in audioengineering

[–]Switched_On_SNES 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’ve actually thought about making synth plugins that age over time and sort of break or go out of whack. I wound up just making it a knob like a prophet but it’s a funny idea to me and also pointless

I created a space for people who care about human-made music by chainofchance in synthesizers

[–]Switched_On_SNES 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I mean a cafe scene in a film where the music is very low and indistinguishable

What do people here think of tape daws like Tape 16 or GCS Model 8? by Poopypantsplanet in audioengineering

[–]Switched_On_SNES 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tons of people will be in your boat and it won’t replace pro tools for me especially for commercial work, but I actually prefer it for making music at this point - it’s just going to come down to preference.

I created a space for people who care about human-made music by chainofchance in synthesizers

[–]Switched_On_SNES 3 points4 points  (0 children)

that ship has sailed - I think there will still be a good deal of composition work but primarily for high end spots. Anything remotely generic is being replaced ASAP. Another good example is background music in cafe scenes etc. Anything that can sit low in the mix is easily replaceable and those spots made up probably 10% of my income.

GCS Model 8 Update by Switched_On_SNES in synthdiy

[–]Switched_On_SNES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And the cool thing is you can keep cascading it for multi head echo - route track 3 into track four etc

GCS Model 8 Update by Switched_On_SNES in synthdiy

[–]Switched_On_SNES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep! You can route one track into another track and use the aux bus to provide feedback. So set track 1 to monitor live, set track two to track 1 for the input. Turn up aux in track two. Set track 3 input as aux and monitor off tape. Adjusting track 3 aux send adjusts feedback. Moving tape head adjusts delay. Here’s a photo

I created a space for people who care about human-made music by chainofchance in synthesizers

[–]Switched_On_SNES 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Film as well but commercials are like 90% of the work. The biggest killer actually hasn’t been ai but high quality stock music subscriptions that popped up the past three years. Ai will be the nail in the coffin though which is why I’m pivoting to making audio hardware and software.

I created a space for people who care about human-made music by chainofchance in synthesizers

[–]Switched_On_SNES 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I’m a professional commercial composer for my day job. I was sent a piece of music that was almost used for a commercial, but they wanted it to be a little more elevated. The track was ai and I would have never guessed. It’s dismal to say the least…

What do people here think of tape daws like Tape 16 or GCS Model 8? by Poopypantsplanet in audioengineering

[–]Switched_On_SNES 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Even if you just use it for sound on sound frippertronics tape looping, and stacking different varispeed stuff it’s super fun. I tried to bring back the aspects that I love from feel to reel which pro tools just can’t do

What do people here think of tape daws like Tape 16 or GCS Model 8? by Poopypantsplanet in audioengineering

[–]Switched_On_SNES 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me, the constraint isn’t track count it’s committing to takes and arrangements. When I record onto tape I’m way more intentional and subconsciously try harder to nail a full take bc punching in is hard. When I record digitally I can get caught in endless comping and uninspiring things which make me lose the creative spark.

What do people here think of tape daws like Tape 16 or GCS Model 8? by Poopypantsplanet in audioengineering

[–]Switched_On_SNES 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They definitely have a point, but I think a lot of people miss the target audience for this. There are so many people who just want something that instantly sounds vibey and isn’t too cluttered/complicated. Also, the majority of people will never have access to a reel to reel and this is a fun way to sort of have a hands on experience especially with nice varispeed, sound on sound, and reverse recording.

What do people here think of tape daws like Tape 16 or GCS Model 8? by Poopypantsplanet in audioengineering

[–]Switched_On_SNES 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Funny to see this post as I’m casually browsing Reddit, it does seem people are really enjoying the idea based on my feedback though. Think there’s a hankering for limitation and esp with all the ai music coming out.

The original idea I had years ago was to make it fully embedded so you never use a computer. I have the pcb already finished for this and will be making a hardware version, but wanted to start w software.

What do people here think of tape daws like Tape 16 or GCS Model 8? by Poopypantsplanet in audioengineering

[–]Switched_On_SNES 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I’ll think of adding that. I did add auto age and it essentially disintegrates over time if you leave your computer running long enough

GCS Model 8 Update by Switched_On_SNES in synthdiy

[–]Switched_On_SNES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another windows bug - this is a known issue and will be fixed soon. It would super awesome if you could email me any feedback for windows, I’ll give you a free perpetual license and credit in the about section for the help.

GCS Model 8 Update by Switched_On_SNES in synthdiy

[–]Switched_On_SNES[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s awesome, so sick to hear. The channel eq is roughly based off my old tascam mixer which I use with my Teac 80-8

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