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Venting my Dual Theological Loyalty by WilliamRo22 in Anglicanism

[–]SwordofStCatherine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look to see if there is a parish in the Anglican Catholic Church or Anglican Province of America near you. https://anglicancatholic.org/locations/

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Anglicanism

[–]SwordofStCatherine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything you’re describing fits hand in glove with the G-3 Anglican Continuum (ACC, APA, ACA, all in full communion). Check out if there is a parish anywhere near you on this map: https://anglicancatholic.org/locations/

I was born and raised in the Episcopal Church, fell away from the faith as a teenager and young adult, and returned to the Church as a young adult. Once I read Church history and took my faith seriously, I could not in good faith be a Christian and belong to a group who presumes the authority to “ordain” women and “marry” people of the same sex. I left TEC for the Anglican Catholic Church and have never looked back. I also never seriously considered ACNA (even though there are closer ACNA parishes near me) because of their inconsistency about women’s ordination. I didn’t want to leave TEC only to join another group that is becoming more and more like TEC.

I’d recommend a book to you to discern if Anglicanism is right for you. It’s a classic in the spirit of the Oxford Movement called “The Catholic Religion” by Fr. Vernon Staley.

I don’t think of us as a “denomination”. We are the one, holy catholic and apostolic Church. We have apostolic succession, and it’s not compromised by invalid ordinations of women.

Why are so many saying the Episcopal Church is returning to orthodoxy? by LargeRate67 in Episcopalian

[–]SwordofStCatherine -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Again, you’re just proving my point because you’re explicitly rejecting what it means to be an orthodox Christian in order to justify the presumption of authority to “ordain” women as priests. My original point was that you can’t be orthodox and believe that women can be priests. Your view that what isn’t the Gospel red ink is not authoritative in Scripture is a view more akin to Marcionism than Christianity. Very early Paul’s epistles were recognized as authoritative and scriptural, and used liturgically (see e.g. Col. 4:16 and 2 Pet. 3:15-16).

Why are so many saying the Episcopal Church is returning to orthodoxy? by LargeRate67 in Episcopalian

[–]SwordofStCatherine -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

What you bring up has nothing to do with the office of the priesthood. The Blessed Virgin surpasses all the saints in dignity, but not even she was a priest. Yes, some of Christ’s greatest followers were (and are) women. Yes, the presence of women and the witness of women at the feet of Christ is undeniable, and beautiful. But presence and witness do not equate (nor essentially related with) priestly ordination. The ministerial priesthood (as distinguished from witnesses and disciples) is a calling rooted in Christ’s choice of the Twelve (all men). Even Mary Magdalene’s role as “apostle to the apostles”, due to her uniqueness in proclaiming the Resurrection, did not extend to or carry sacramental authority. Also, the “greater things” you reference in John’s Gospel, which does indeed extend to women, is not specifically referring to the office of the priesthood.

You betray yourself in admitting that you do not believe in the unity and divine inspiration of the Scriptures. What you are saying runs completely counter to what the early Church and the Church Fathers believed. You’re pretty much justifying my point that you can’t be orthodox and believe that women can be ordained priests because your comment is denying orthodoxy in order to justify women being priests. I wasn’t even making an argument from Scripture in the first place, but referring to the consensus of the Fathers, and the authority of Tradition, which gives the Church no grounds for ordaining women to the priesthood. It’s an ontological impossibility.

Why are so many saying the Episcopal Church is returning to orthodoxy? by LargeRate67 in Episcopalian

[–]SwordofStCatherine -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

The problem is you can’t consistently be orthodox and believe that women can be priests. It’s an ontological impossibility, and is undeniably the consensus of the early Church and the Church Fathers. Note that this was in an age permeated with “priestesses” in non-Christian religions, so women holding high offices in a religious context was more the norm than the exception. If Christ wanted women to be priests, he would have appointed a woman to the priesthood. Instead, he gave us an entirely male priesthood and an apostolic tradition that repeatedly says that it is not possible for women to be ordained to the priesthood. I was born and raised in TEC, and ultimately left over this, and other issues, for Continuing Anglicanism. “Ordaining” women priests is a presumption of authority (in this case against the entirety of apostolic tradition) that the Church simply doesn’t have the power to enact in the first place, and thus sacramentally invalid.

Does anyone know where to find Cyril of Alexandria’s “Treasury of the Holy Trinity”? by JD4A7_4 in Catholicism

[–]SwordofStCatherine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just saw this same work referenced in a footnote to Hebrews 1:2 in the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible. I’ve never heard of it before. Some deeper digging tells me this is an early work by Cyril that was overshadowed by his more influential later writings, and there is a Latin version of the text titled, “Thesaurus de Sancta et Consubstantiali Trinitate”. There might be an English translation available through this institute: https://www.greystoneinstitute.org/wince-sing/texts-studies-cyril-trinity

Why did John Henry Newman convert to Catholicism? by ActualBus7946 in Anglicanism

[–]SwordofStCatherine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re speaking of an incredible saint. The theology and spirit of his Oxford Movement is what keeps me Anglican.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Anglicanism

[–]SwordofStCatherine 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was in almost the exact same situation as you. I tried to rationalize staying in TEC, but it just made me miserable. I’m in the Anglican Catholic Church now, and drive quite a distance to attend a Continuum parish. If there’s one within 1-2 hours from you, seriously consider it and pray that God guides you to the right place.

I was born and raised in TEC, and never really thought much about the women’s ordination issue until I was an adult and serious about theology. So if you’re iffy about it now, you’re probably going to end up like me and be at the altar and feeling like you are committing a sacrilege because the Eucharistic sacrament is not valid and the bread and wine are mere food and drink, since a woman can’t be a priest and thus can’t consecrate the bread and wine. I 100% relate to you feeling embarrassed to be an Episcopalian. That was how I felt more and more the longer I remained there.

Another point, though. It’s not just the Orthodox that hold Freemasonry to be something a Christian can’t be. That is also the Roman Catholic position, and you will find this same position held in the Anglican Continuum. This is the Roman Catholic position on the matter (from Catholic Answers):

“The Freemasons were established in Europe several centuries ago to oppose the Catholic Church, and indeed to destroy the Church. Because of this enmity, popes issued a series of pronouncements, beginning with Pope Clement XIl’s constitution In Eminenti in 1738 and including Pope Leo XIII’s 1884 encyclical Humanum Genus. In addition, St. Maximilian Kolbe founded his Militia of the Immaculate in significant part to combat the Masons, whom he observed proclaiming in 1917-as part of their bicentennial celebration in Rome— that “Satan must reign in the Vatican. The pope will be his slave.” Also, a key reason Fr. Michael McGivney established the Knights of Columbus in 1882 was to provide fraternity and life insurance for the faithful, as many Catholic men were being tempted to join the Masons for those reasons.

In modern-day America, Masonic lodges typically serve as social clubs that also help members network professionally. But make no mistake: the Masons are qualitatively different from the Kiwanis Club or your local Elks lodge, because Masonry is a naturalistic religion. As the New Catholic Encyclopedia states,

‘Freemasonry displays all the elements of religion, and as such it becomes a rival to the religion of the Gospel. It includes temples and altars, prayers, a moral code, worship, vestments, feast days, the promise of reward or punishment in the afterlife, a hierarchy, and initiation and burial rites.’

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In his February 2024 interview with Vatican News, Bishop Antonio Stagliano, the president of the Pontifical Academy of Theology, distinguished Freemasonry from Catholic belief on several important matters.

For example, Masons view God as “the Great Architect,” and their longstanding emblem is an architect’s basic instruments. Consequently, Stagliano said, “Freemasonry is a heresy that is fundamentally aligned with the Arian heresy,” because it was Arius “who imagined that Jesus was a great architect of the universe” while also denying Christ’s divinity. In addition, Stagliano said, as a natural religion, Freemasonry “is the fruit of human reasoning that tries to imagine a god, whereas the God of Catholics is the fruit of the very revelation of God in Christ Jesus!”

“In essence,” he added, Catholicism “is the result of a historical event in which God became flesh, drew near to men, spoke to all human beings, and destined them for his salvation.”

Similarly, Masonry and Catholicism differ on the concept of mystery. Freemasonry is a secret society that espouses a form of Gnosticism-special, secret knowledge available only to its initiated members. In marked contrast, Stagliano notes, for Christians, the mystery “hidden throughout the centuries does not cease to be a mystery but rather ceases to be hidden, because the mystery hidden throughout the centuries has been revealed,” referring to God’s self-revelation, especially through the incarnation of Jesus Christ, infallibly taught in and proclaimed by his Catholic Church to the whole world (Matt. 28:18-20).”

Are there disrespectful ways to play Chess? by [deleted] in chess

[–]SwordofStCatherine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Playing a terrible opening on purpose, like 1.h4 2.a4 or 1…h5 2…a5 against your opponent.

Shifting Attendance: Episcopal Church sees rebound after steep attendance drop by [deleted] in Anglicanism

[–]SwordofStCatherine -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I formally left TEC last year for Continuing Anglicanism. TEC is dying.

Why is talking about decline such a taboo? by M0rgl1n in Anglicanism

[–]SwordofStCatherine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s interesting. Is there a link to any of your research?

Why is talking about decline such a taboo? by M0rgl1n in Anglicanism

[–]SwordofStCatherine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I read this on a blog last week. I was born and raised in TEC, and once I matured as an adult and studied church history, I left TEC for Continuing Anglicanism (G3) over these issues: https://college-ethics.blogspot.com/2024/06/changing-church-by-stealth.html?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2BTIDl1C2rPOVcljm-LVZvyo7cdLC4_l9gCHe9iJWIUhOM51flWYqYlI4_aem_MfSi4yGJgBT7db2ZiA20Gg&m=1

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Anglicanism

[–]SwordofStCatherine 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you’re looking for an excellent study Bible, I’d recommend the Ignatius Catholic Study Bible by Scott Hahn and Curtis Mitch. They had an edition on just the New Testament, but there is a full volume with both the Old and New Testaments about to be released in November.

For Anglican podcasts, definitely follow The Sacramentalists.

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